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[CARL_DF90]

One positive thing can be said. Without this thread I would have wasted my hard earned cash on a horribly written piece of garbage that is more an insult than a compliment to the ME universe I so love. Oy. I need to leave this forum for a good long while.

[JoeLaTurkey]

I just realised something...

[ZLurps]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

I honesty i don't think "gas suckers" belongs on the list, It's used as a derogatory about the quarians and such statements rarely rely on logic.

However dumb it might be it is still possible to make the connection between a quarian helmet and a gas mask.

Concidering that both species breath oxygen and are by no means strangers to each others I would keep this in error list.

[Iohanna]

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the explanation of how Mass Effect: Deception came to be.

[ZLurps]

MissOuJ wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.

And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.

As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.

She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.

And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.

From the Codex:
"It is possible to "upgrade" from an L2 to an L3 implant, but the procedure is rarely performed because it carries a very high risk of brain damage."

and

"Once the implant is installed, it can only be replaced or altered
through extremely dangerous brain surgery, so most individuals keep the
same implant their entire lives."

What people think about that? Should it go to list or is it just another extraordinary dump thing from Dietz pen?

[didymos1120]

ZLurps wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

I honesty i don't think "gas suckers" belongs on the list, It's used as a derogatory about the quarians and such statements rarely rely on logic.

However dumb it might be it is still possible to make the connection between a quarian helmet and a gas mask.

Concidering that both species breath oxygen and are by no means strangers to each others I would keep this in error list.

Especially because I'm pretty sure Dietz got his volus and his quarians mixed up.  Also, his volus don't have completely sealed suits.  Their faces are partly visible. I think he got that from skimming Revelation, where that's also the case, and didn't stop to consider that it was written and published waaaay before the game came out and everything had been finalized.

[Anacronian Stryx]

A pyjack misses having elevator discussions with Miranda.

I would actually pay money to read that.

[Relix28]

JoeLaTurkey wrote...

I just realised something...

Wow. That's genius. 

Modifié par Relix28, 28 janvier 2012 - 06:50 .

[Ryzaki]

JoeLaTurkey wrote...

I just realised something...

I <3 this thread.

[ZLurps]

didymos1120 wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

I honesty i don't think "gas suckers" belongs on the list, It's used as a derogatory about the quarians and such statements rarely rely on logic.

However dumb it might be it is still possible to make the connection between a quarian helmet and a gas mask.

Concidering that both species breath oxygen and are by no means strangers to each others I would keep this in error list.

Especially because I'm pretty sure Dietz got his volus and his quarians mixed up.  Also, his volus don't have completely sealed suits.  Their faces are partly visible. I think he got that from skimming Revelation, where that's also the case, and didn't stop to consider that it was written and published waaaay before the game came out and everything had been finalized.

Ok, entry stays on the list.

Edit: Good analysis btw.

Modifié par ZLurps, 28 janvier 2012 - 06:50 .

[Khran1505]

Iohanna wrote...

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the explanation of how Mass Effect: Deception came to be.

This person is a freaking genius.

[roflchoppaz]

ZLurps wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...


And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.

As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.

She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.

And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.

From the Codex:
"It is possible to "upgrade" from an L2 to an L3 implant, but the procedure is rarely performed because it carries a very high risk of brain damage."

and

"Once the implant is installed, it can only be replaced or altered
through extremely dangerous brain surgery, so most individuals keep the
same implant their entire lives."

What people think about that? Should it go to list or is it just another extraordinary dump thing from Dietz pen?

List it, because this is just... wow. No ****ing anestesia. And then she just goes to kick butt after. Wow.

[mineralica]

AVPen wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

AVPen wrote...
21. Quarian's names, continued - none of the quarians named in Deception have a clan-name (examples: Tali'Zorah, Han'Gerrel, Daro'Xen, Shala'Raan, etc)

He actually did get one right: Ysin'Mal. The other thing to note is that leaving off the clan name is OK. Drew does it in Ascension. The games do it. But not when their birth/crew names are also invoked.

That is true and a good point, but even then, Dietz screws it up by still not giving the Quarian's full name when the situation calls for it (like that Quarian addressing the Council as "Fothar Vas Maynar" - since it's a formal affair and he's invoking his ship's name as well, it should "Fothar'clan-name vas Maynar")

I think in such formal situation birth ship is normally named as well. Beginning of "Treason": "This is Tali'Zorah vas Neema nar Rayya. Requesting permission to dock with the Rayya". So it should be "Fothar'Something vas Maynar nar something".

[SolidBeast]

Iohanna wrote...

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the explanation of how Mass Effect: Deception came to be.

Miranda buys a copy of Fornax for Conrad Verner.
Jack takes hallex with Zaeed.

I can see this happening.

[LPPrince]

Makes it sound like the toothbrush was necessary.

[ZLurps]

The PLC wrote...

"Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release."
CaseyDHudson on twitter, 5 months ago.

What the hell? How!? What!? Why!?!?!

:D:D

Finally I can laught to that! Ah!

[MissOuJ]

ZLurps wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.

And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.

As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.

She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.

And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.

Yeah, this has raised some questions earlier. I try to check for Codex if there is a mention about surgery. I recall there was something in game or Codex or somewhere surgery being very dangerous but I'm not sure.

I actually went back to check this, and the codex for ME1 mentions very little about the surgery, but says changing amplifiers is pretty widespread, and wiki says changing implants is dangerous and requires surgery. So I went back to the novel and checked if Dietz was talking about amplifiers... No. Or it doesn't look that way. First Gillian mentions amplifiers and then she walks to the reception of the Biotics Guild and asks to talk about new implants.

And when she's shopping at the black market we're back to talking about amps... until they're talking about mixing and matching implants from different manufacturers.

Then it's back to amps... until the doctor promises to double her power and triple the time she's available to use it. I don't thinks amps alone can do that... So in the end, we don't even know wether she got new amps or new implants, and there's kind of a huge difference between the two.

So, again, Dietz did not do the research.

Modifié par MissOuJ, 28 janvier 2012 - 07:01 .

[didymos1120]

Dietz just doesn't understand the distinction between biotic amps and implants.

Modifié par didymos1120, 28 janvier 2012 - 06:57 .

[Iohanna]

The PLC wrote...

I still don't understand HOW THE ****, Bioware let this book happen!?

https://twitter.com/...645506068291584
".@RobbieWChibnall Yep, the next #MassEffect novel "Deception" comes out this fall. We're reviewing a draft this week!"

What the ****, Casey?!

You think that's bad, just wait until you hear what he says after the final review!

Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release.

I mean... How? When? What? Where?...

The world, it doesn't make sense anymore! Goddess preserve me!

[JamesFaith]

29. TIM's hideout -  in Retribution is written, that TIM is hidding on space station, which changing location after every visitor including Leng. Now TIM is on the moon and staying there after Leng's visit.

30. Gillian's visit in Afterlife - Afterlife is most popular bar on Omega and people waiting hours to get in (Retribution). Now Gillian enter it immediately and bouncer don't stop her.

[LPPrince]

Dietz doesn't understand a lot of things about the lore.

Thats the problem.

[Thargorichiban]

Iohanna wrote...

The PLC wrote...

I still don't understand HOW THE ****, Bioware let this book happen!?

https://twitter.com/...645506068291584
".@RobbieWChibnall Yep, the next #MassEffect novel "Deception" comes out this fall. We're reviewing a draft this week!"

What the ****, Casey?!

You think that's bad, just wait until you hear what he says after the final review!

Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release.

I mean... How? When? What? Where?...

The world, it doesn't make sense anymore! Goddess preserve me!

Huh... How much do you want to bet that it wasn't Casey but Casey's assistant who read the book?