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Modifié par LPPrince, 28 janvier 2012 - 07:01 .
Iohanna wrote...
The PLC wrote...
I still don't understand HOW THE ****, Bioware let this book happen!?
https://twitter.com/...645506068291584
".@RobbieWChibnall Yep, the next #MassEffect novel "Deception" comes out this fall. We're reviewing a draft this week!"
What the ****, Casey?!
You think that's bad, just wait until you hear what he says after the final review!
Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release.
I mean... How? When? What? Where?...
The world, it doesn't make sense anymore! Goddess preserve me!
Well this looks fun, lets see what we ge-Iohanna wrote...
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the explanation of how Mass Effect: Deception came to be.
Modifié par Lyvef1re, 28 janvier 2012 - 07:02 .
ZLurps wrote...
Anacronian Stryx wrote...
I honesty i don't think "gas suckers" belongs on the list, It's used as a derogatory about the quarians and such statements rarely rely on logic.
However dumb it might be it is still possible to make the connection between a quarian helmet and a gas mask.
Concidering that both species breath oxygen and are by no means strangers to each others I would keep this in error list.
MissOuJ wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.
And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.
As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.
She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.
And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.
Yeah, this has raised some questions earlier. I try to check for Codex if there is a mention about surgery. I recall there was something in game or Codex or somewhere surgery being very dangerous but I'm not sure.
I actually went back to check this, and the codex for ME1 mentions very little about the surgery, but says changing amplifiers is pretty widespread, and wiki says changing implants is dangerous and requires surgery. So I went back to the novel and checked if Dietz was talking about amplifiers... No. Or it doesn't look that way. First Gillian mentions amplifiers and then she walks to the reception of the Biotics Guild and asks to talk about new implants.
And when she's shopping at the black market we're back to talking about ampps... until they're talking about mixing and matching implants from different manufacturers.
Then it's back to ampps... until the doctor promises to double her power and triple the time she's available to use it. I don't thinks ampps alone can do that...
So, again, Dietz did not do the research.
Thargorichiban wrote...
Iohanna wrote...
The PLC wrote...
I still don't understand HOW THE ****, Bioware let this book happen!?
https://twitter.com/...645506068291584
".@RobbieWChibnall Yep, the next #MassEffect novel "Deception" comes out this fall. We're reviewing a draft this week!"
What the ****, Casey?!
You think that's bad, just wait until you hear what he says after the final review!
Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release.
I mean... How? When? What? Where?...
The world, it doesn't make sense anymore! Goddess preserve me!
Huh... How much do you want to bet that it wasn't Casey but Casey's assistant who read the book?
MissOuJ wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.
And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.
As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.
She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.
And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.
Yeah, this has raised some questions earlier. I try to check for Codex if there is a mention about surgery. I recall there was something in game or Codex or somewhere surgery being very dangerous but I'm not sure.
I actually went back to check this, and the codex for ME1 mentions very little about the surgery, but says changing amplifiers is pretty widespread, and wiki says changing implants is dangerous and requires surgery. So I went back to the novel and checked if Dietz was talking about amplifiers... No. Or it doesn't look that way. First Gillian mentions amplifiers and then she walks to the reception of the Biotics Guild and asks to talk about new implants.
And when she's shopping at the black market we're back to talking about ampps... until they're talking about mixing and matching implants from different manufacturers.
Then it's back to ampps... until the doctor promises to double her power and triple the time she's available to use it. I don't thinks ampps alone can do that...
So, again, Dietz did not do the research.
JamesFaith wrote...
29. TIM's hideout - in Retribution is written, that TIM is hidding on space station, which changing location after every visitor including Leng. Now TIM is on the moon and staying there after Leng's visit.
Nashiktal wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
Anacronian Stryx wrote...
I honesty i don't think "gas suckers" belongs on the list, It's used as a derogatory about the quarians and such statements rarely rely on logic.
However dumb it might be it is still possible to make the connection between a quarian helmet and a gas mask.
Concidering that both species breath oxygen and are by no means strangers to each others I would keep this in error list.
What? Volus breath oxygen? I thought oxygen/nitrogen mixture's were poisonous to them?
didymos1120 wrote...
My personal theory is that there was a meeting and the verdict was "This can't be fixed, every time we try it just comes back with more errors, and we have to let the publisher have something, so f*ck it."
izmirtheastarach wrote...
I absolutely refuse to believe that Casey Hudson read this book.
)
didymos1120 wrote...
JamesFaith wrote...
29. TIM's hideout - in Retribution is written, that TIM is hidding on space station, which changing location after every visitor including Leng. Now TIM is on the moon and staying there after Leng's visit.
I thought it was some planet with abandoned mining gear or something.
ZLurps wrote...
AVPen wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
JamesFaith wrote...
Challenge accepted, LPPrince. There are my first ten cannon mistakes in Deception. Everyone can continue, just please keep it on purely ME mistakes, things like cornflakes are only Dietz's stupidities, use same numbering and formal language in case, we someday send it to BW as proof of Dietz's incompetence, and donť repeating them. We will see, how incorrect this I'm-proud-on-it book is.
Cannon mistakes in ME: Deception
- Gillian's autism - now she, by her own words, grew up from it, which is impossible
- Quarian's names - titling kvarian Fothar vas Maynar (and others) like Maynar means, you adressed them by name of their ship, not by their own name.
- Gas suckers - quarians breathing air, their masks only looks like gas mask, their function is filtration of air
- Claiming that Hendel never visit Omega before - Hendel was on Omega in Ascension whole three chapters
- Hendel can't know that Anderson and Kahlee are together and on the Citadel - they got together after Hendel leaving with quarians and Kahlee had no contact with them (dialog between her and Grayson in Retribution and fact, that Gillian don't know about father's death)
- Friendship of Gillian and Nick - there was only one and last contact between them in Ascension. Nick overthrow her milk and she went mad and nearly kill him
- Gillian knowing about her adoption - nothing suggest this in Ascension, in fact Grayson had strict order from TIM pretending, he is her real father
- Gillian claiming that child in Academy tormented her - nothing suggesting that, in fact they only ignoring her, incident with Nick was unique
- Tantalus drive core on batarian ship - Tantalus core was high secret experiental drive core using only on Normandy, batarians can't have it
- Aria T'Loak's biotic - Aria is very strong biotic, but in Deception she need her bodyguards to put barrier on her
11. The Citadel is described being star shaped - Citadel is actually like a hollow cylinder.
12. There is Batarian embassy in the Citedel - Batarians closed their embassy in after the Citadel Council sided with humans regarding border dispute.
13. Some characters visit Chora's Den - Chora's Den was closed after events of ME1.
14. Citadel surrounded by stars - Citadel is in the middle of nebula with only one star, Widow, visible.
15. Krogan dies when Kai Leng severes stabs knife in his neck and severes spine - Krogan biology doesn't work that way.
16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.
17. Hendel Mitra is described as heterosexual - Hendel is homosexual.
18. Deception claims Asari found The Citadel first and learned to use mass effect technology after that - How did they got in the Citadel at the first without using mass effect?
19. Deception tells that The Citadel is a Reaper trap that Reapers used successufully during the events of ME1
- That never happended due Prothean scientists reprogamming the Keepers
and Shepard foiling Sovereigns plan to manuallu override Citadel relay
function.
21. Asari are told to be asexual - In ME1 Liara describes Asari as mono-gender, all female species.
22. Quarian's names, continued - none of the quarians named in Deception have a clan-name (examples: Tali'Zorah, Han'Gerrel, Daro'Xen, Shala'Raan, etc.
23. Asari Council member saying "My God" - Asari don't believe in any form of male God, their religion is a monotheistic one based on the Goddess Athame.
24. Kai Leng visits an auction house on the Batarian homeworld Kar'Shan - the Batarian homeworld is closed off to outside races, especially humans.
25. Batarian pirates raid slaves from the Turian homeworld of Pavalen - yeah, a bunch of no-name pirates managed to raid supplies and slaves from the homeworld of one of the strongest and most militaristic of races in the Mass Effect universe.
26. Public is allowed in the Citadel Council chamber - In ME1 only very few people have a privilegde to meet them.
27. Characters Gillian and Nick are 18 years old in Deception - These characters were 12 - 13 years old in previous novels set 2 years before Deception
28. Hand Weapons that fire at "relativistic speeds" - for those who doesn't know it the term relativistic speed means close or apprising the speed of light, the term is usually used about speed higher than 80% of C - considering that a sand corn fired of those speeds will have the impact of 90 kg TNT and also that a main gun on a Everest class dreadnought only fires at 1.3% of C i would say that relativistic speeds might be a bit high.
JamesFaith wrote...
29. TIM's hideout - in Retribution is written, that TIM is hidding on space station, which changing location after every visitor including Leng. Now TIM is on the planet and staying there after Leng's visit.
30. Gillian's visit in Afterlife - Afterlife is most popular bar on Omega and people waiting hours to get in (Retribution). Now Gillian enter it immediately and bouncer don't stop her.
AVPen wrote...
31. Quarian's clothing - Quarians wear enviromentally-sealed 'enviro-suits' to protect their weakened immune systems... they do not wear "a motley collection of clothing, held together by a variety of straps and metal fasteners".
Modifié par ZLurps, 28 janvier 2012 - 07:17 .
Modifié par AVPen, 28 janvier 2012 - 07:14 .
ArkkAngel007 wrote...
Implants do not equal Biotic "levels" or whatever nonsense Dietz was talking about. Species, raw biotic aptitude, focus, implants, and amplifiers all contribute to the overall biotic performance of that individual. So no, he did not do his research.
By the way, while it does seem ridiculous to undergo surgery without anethetics, your brain itself actually doesn't perceive pain. Once you get into the skull and as long as you don't hit any blood vessels (which do contain nerves that perceive pain), its a surgery that's possible to perform on a concious individual. There are actually brain surgeries that are done on patients who remain awake for the majority of the surgery.
Modifié par MissOuJ, 28 janvier 2012 - 07:27 .
Mesina2 wrote...
Thargorichiban wrote...
Iohanna wrote...
The PLC wrote...
I still don't understand HOW THE ****, Bioware let this book happen!?
https://twitter.com/...645506068291584
".@RobbieWChibnall Yep, the next #MassEffect novel "Deception" comes out this fall. We're reviewing a draft this week!"
What the ****, Casey?!
You think that's bad, just wait until you hear what he says after the final review!
Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release.
I mean... How? When? What? Where?...
The world, it doesn't make sense anymore! Goddess preserve me!
Huh... How much do you want to bet that it wasn't Casey but Casey's assistant who read the book?
That's the only logical explanation.
Plus, Casey is busy with releasing ME3.
MissOuJ wrote...
ArkkAngel007 wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
16. Biotics are told to have different levels in their Biotic abilities - There is no such thing, there are only different types of implants.
And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.
As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.
She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.
And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.
Yeah, this has raised some questions earlier. I try to check for Codex if there is a mention about surgery. I recall there was something in game or Codex or somewhere surgery being very dangerous but I'm not sure.
I actually went back to check this, and the codex for ME1 mentions very little about the surgery, but says changing amplifiers is pretty widespread, and wiki says changing implants is dangerous and requires surgery. So I went back to the novel and checked if Dietz was talking about amplifiers... No. Or it doesn't look that way. First Gillian mentions amplifiers and then she walks to the reception of the Biotics Guild and asks to talk about new implants.
And when she's shopping at the black market we're back to talking about ampps... until they're talking about mixing and matching implants from different manufacturers.
Then it's back to ampps... until the doctor promises to double her power and triple the time she's available to use it. I don't thinks ampps alone can do that...
So, again, Dietz did not do the research.
Implants do not equal Biotic "levels" or whatever nonsense Dietz was talking about. Species, raw biotic aptitude, focus, implants, and amplifiers all contribute to the overall biotic performance of that individual. So no, he did not do his research.
By the way, while it does seem ridiculous to undergo surgery without anethetics, your brain itself actually doesn't perceive pain. Once you get into the skull and as long as you don't hit any blood vessels (which do contain nerves that perceive pain), its a surgery that's possible to perform on a concious individual. There are actually brain surgeries that are done on patients who remain awake for the majority of the surgery.
True, and a surgery where there's a significant risk of brain damage is actually a surgery where keeping the patient awake (or waking them up after the skull is open, so to speak) is smart since you can tell much faster if their cognitive abilities are weakening.
But still. A back-alley clinic and Gillian hopping up like a champ afterwards and going to blow stuff up is streching it.
JamesFaith wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
ArkkAngel007 wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
ZLurps wrote...
MissOuJ wrote...
And speaking of biotic implants and Deception... In the Citadel, after Gillian has ditched her entourage, she goes off to find a place where she can have new implants because the L4's are apparently too weak for her liking (yes, she's actually willing to have a surgery where brain damage is a serious concern to become more powerful). First, she tries the legitimate way, but since she wants them "Now. As in, today!", she's forced to go to the black market. For brain surgery.
As it happends, she gets new implants installed without any anesthesia.
She has a brain surgery. In a back-alley clinic. Without anesthesia. And pretty much just hops up from the operation table when the doctor is done and goes to some other back alley to blow up something or another to showcase her newly aquired powers.
And that's how Gillian became a Biotic God. The End.
Yeah, this has raised some questions earlier. I try to check for Codex if there is a mention about surgery. I recall there was something in game or Codex or somewhere surgery being very dangerous but I'm not sure.
I actually went back to check this, and the codex for ME1 mentions very little about the surgery, but says changing amplifiers is pretty widespread, and wiki says changing implants is dangerous and requires surgery. So I went back to the novel and checked if Dietz was talking about amplifiers... No. Or it doesn't look that way. First Gillian mentions amplifiers and then she walks to the reception of the Biotics Guild and asks to talk about new implants.
And when she's shopping at the black market we're back to talking about ampps... until they're talking about mixing and matching implants from different manufacturers.
Then it's back to ampps... until the doctor promises to double her power and triple the time she's available to use it. I don't thinks ampps alone can do that...
So, again, Dietz did not do the research.
Implants do not equal Biotic "levels" or whatever nonsense Dietz was talking about. Species, raw biotic aptitude, focus, implants, and amplifiers all contribute to the overall biotic performance of that individual. So no, he did not do his research.
By the way, while it does seem ridiculous to undergo surgery without anethetics, your brain itself actually doesn't perceive pain. Once you get into the skull and as long as you don't hit any blood vessels (which do contain nerves that perceive pain), its a surgery that's possible to perform on a concious individual. There are actually brain surgeries that are done on patients who remain awake for the majority of the surgery.
True, and a surgery where there's a significant risk of brain damage is actually a surgery where keeping the patient awake (or waking them up after the skull is open, so to speak) is smart since you can tell much faster if their cognitive abilities are weakening.
But still. A back-alley clinic and Gillian hopping up like a champ afterwards and going to blow stuff up is streching it.
But there is one problem - implants aren't only in brain, they are spred through the main nerve system, I think
Modifié par ZLurps, 28 janvier 2012 - 07:22 .
JamesFaith wrote...
But there is one problem - implants aren't only in brain, they are spred through the main nerve system, I think
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