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Ok this is hilarious. At first I thought that the Kai Leng cereal jokes were just that, jokes. Now I realize that they are based on Kai Leng eating Anderson's cereals in his apartment. I won't be able to hold the laugh when I see him in ME3

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Just read the preview.

Hell, just read the prologue.


If your talking to me I have.Even if I did read it again, we probably wouldn't be thinking at the same level, so that's why I ask.

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darkiddd wrote...

Ok this is hilarious. At first I thought that the Kai Leng cereal jokes were just that, jokes. Now I realize that they are based on Kai Leng eating Anderson's cereals in his apartment. I won't be able to hold the laugh when I see him in ME3


...wait...oh god lmao.

It's real?!? :lol:

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Guys guys, its so easy to see. They made Gillian 18 so she'd be legal. :P


16 is legal in Canada. BOOM!

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Ryzaki wrote...

darkiddd wrote...

Ok this is hilarious. At first I thought that the Kai Leng cereal jokes were just that, jokes. Now I realize that they are based on Kai Leng eating Anderson's cereals in his apartment. I won't be able to hold the laugh when I see him in ME3


...wait...oh god lmao.

It's real?!? :lol:


I know right, hahaha

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Hello Man wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Just read the preview.

Hell, just read the prologue.


If your talking to me I have.Even if I did read it again, we probably wouldn't be thinking at the same level, so that's why I ask.


the novel is broken lore wise he says biotics charge up like its DBZ and call level 1-3 biotics like its a proficiency instead of what it really is; an implant L1-L5x.  Gillian is 18 instead of being 16, there is a lot more wrong but that should sufice

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The cereal thing I think is no biggy IMO. Every serious story needs a small amount of humor now and then. We obviously experienced it in ME2 and with Joker.

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bennyjammin79 wrote...

Zatwu wrote...

Guys guys, its so easy to see. They made Gillian 18 so she'd be legal. :P


16 is legal in Canada. BOOM!



really thats interesting kinda weird actually

Modifié par CROAT_56, 26 janvier 2012 - 03:25 .


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Hello Man wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Just read the preview.

Hell, just read the prologue.


If your talking to me I have.Even if I did read it again, we probably wouldn't be thinking at the same level, so that's why I ask.


the novel is broken lore wise he says biotics charge up like its DBZ and call level 1-3 biotics like its a proficiency instead of what it really is; an implant L1-L5x.  Gillian is 18 instead of being 16, there is a lot more wrong but that should sufice


The 18 thing kinda makes sense to me. But I don't have the will anymore to explain it into huge detail to make sense. Basically it makes sense to me because in the Demo leak it said about 30 years after the discovery of the Prothean ruins on Mars (2157). That ends up making the start date 2187 to 2188. 

So Biotics don't charge up? I thought it took alot of energy just to release the energy.

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spiros9110 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

darkiddd wrote...

Ok this is hilarious. At first I thought that the Kai Leng cereal jokes were just that, jokes. Now I realize that they are based on Kai Leng eating Anderson's cereals in his apartment. I won't be able to hold the laugh when I see him in ME3


...wait...oh god lmao.

It's real?!? :lol:


I know right, hahaha


If my Shep's lucky charms go missing there will be a problem. :bandit:

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Anyway I theorized why Kai Leng is Racist. Some alien peed in his Wheaties. JK

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The cereal thing I think is no biggy IMO. Every serious story needs a small amount of humor now and then. We obviously experienced it in ME2 and with Joker.

Are you seriously trying to compare Kai Leng with Joker:?

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Hello Man wrote...

The cereal thing I think is no biggy IMO. Every serious story needs a small amount of humor now and then. We obviously experienced it in ME2 and with Joker.

Are you seriously trying to compare Kai Leng with Joker:?


Are you seriously thinking im comparing the two? Of course not! I was just stating that humor is sometimes necessary in any genre. =]

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Ryzaki wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

darkiddd wrote...

Ok this is hilarious. At first I thought that the Kai Leng cereal jokes were just that, jokes. Now I realize that they are based on Kai Leng eating Anderson's cereals in his apartment. I won't be able to hold the laugh when I see him in ME3


...wait...oh god lmao.

It's real?!? :lol:



I know right, hahaha


If my Shep's lucky charms go missing there will be a problem. :bandit:


Make sure not to eat cereal in your cabin ...

Modifié par spiros9110, 26 janvier 2012 - 03:33 .


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Just found this snippet in the preview-that-shall-not-be-named:

"Rasna vas Kather (Rasna crew of the Kather)"

Dietz, this is a goddamn novel, not a pamphlet destined for the lobby in a dental office. Lern2exposit.

Oh, also, I'm pretty sure this quarian's not crew of sh!t considering they aren't living on a ship because they ran away to join the biotic circus or whatever. Also, this ridiculously conspicuous "Biotic Underground" apparently likes to hold what are essentially the equivalent of Biotic Pride Parades. On Omega. I. Sh!t. You. Not.

Now you may be asking "Why in the hell would you want to do that?" And the answer would be because on Omega, that shizz gets you street cred, yo.

DIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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spiros9110 wrote...

Make sure not to eat cereal in your cabin ...


D:

Poor Shep's lucky charms! That fiend Kai Leng will steal them.

@didymos: ...please tell me that's a joke. Please for the sake of my ability to breathe.

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Hello Man wrote...

AVPen wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

The cereal thing I think is no biggy IMO. Every serious story needs a small amount of humor now and then. We obviously experienced it in ME2 and with Joker.

Are you seriously trying to compare Kai Leng with Joker:?


Are you seriously thinking im comparing the two? Of course not! I was just stating that humor is sometimes necessary in any genre. =]

As long as said humor fits the character that's experiencing it. :mellow:

Modifié par AVPen, 26 janvier 2012 - 03:41 .


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Hello Man wrote...

CROAT_56 wrote...

Hello Man wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Just read the preview.

Hell, just read the prologue.


If your talking to me I have.Even if I did read it again, we probably wouldn't be thinking at the same level, so that's why I ask.


the novel is broken lore wise he says biotics charge up like its DBZ and call level 1-3 biotics like its a proficiency instead of what it really is; an implant L1-L5x.  Gillian is 18 instead of being 16, there is a lot more wrong but that should sufice


The 18 thing kinda makes sense to me. But I don't have the will anymore to explain it into huge detail to make sense. Basically it makes sense to me because in the Demo leak it said about 30 years after the discovery of the Prothean ruins on Mars (2157). That ends up making the start date 2187 to 2188. 

So Biotics don't charge up? I thought it took alot of energy just to release the energy.


i havent seen the leak i apoligize but if that is true then i agree it makes sence.  as for biotics they dont charge up they just exert energy like what we do when we run irl. you cant run indefinately they cant use biotics indefinately

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didymos1120 wrote...

Just found this snippet in the preview-that-shall-not-be-named:

"Rasna vas Kather (Rasna crew of the Kather)"

Dietz, this is a goddamn novel, not a pamphlet destined for the lobby in a dental office. Lern2exposit.

Oh, also, I'm pretty sure this quarian's not crew of sh!t considering they aren't living on a ship because they ran away to join the biotic circus or whatever. Also, this ridiculously conspicuous "Biotic Underground" apparently likes to hold what are essentially the equivalent of Biotic Pride Parades. On Omega. I. Sh!t. You. Not.

Now you may be asking "Why in the hell would you want to do that?" And the answer would be because on Omega, that shizz gets you street cred, yo.

DIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As a random person on the internet who knows you only as an aquaintance on the BSN, I am seriously concerned for your health and sanity.

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Just found this snippet in the preview-that-shall-not-be-named:

"Rasna vas Kather (Rasna crew of the Kather)"

Dietz, this is a goddamn novel, not a pamphlet destined for the lobby in a dental office. Lern2exposit.

And here's yet another example of a quarian with seemingly no clan-name.... bloody hell. <_<

Modifié par AVPen, 26 janvier 2012 - 03:41 .


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The cereal thing I think is no biggy IMO. Every serious story needs a small amount of humor now and then. We obviously experienced it in ME2 and with Joker.


We're not exactly talking "Joker" here. Kai Leng isn't, and never should be a comic relief like Joker obviously is. Kai Leng is a cold remorseless killer that *Spoiler Alert* kill's Aria's own daughter and leaves her naked and blodied body in the very room for her own mother to find. You don't have that character be the comic relief. Like, ever.

But the cereal scene is the 1%, the other 99% are (I'm guessing) spread all over the book. You can see some of them in the preview.

You can see it pretty much everywhere. No one who read the previous books and actually liked them and the characters within them (like I did) can say with a straight face that this book is good. The character's are unrecognisable: they're clear ploys and clichés. In some cases (namely Gillian) they have certain apects taken away (her autism) just to be more "badass" or something else just as silly. The characters were already interesting, he didn't need to toy with their personalities much more. Just up the circumstances and the rest should take care of itself.

I would like to take this light-heartedly, or even find it funny, but this guy was paid and will be paid in royalties by completely negating the reference material and presenting it in a way that's basically indigestible to newcomers and rage-inducing to the fans.

But the reactions are actually hilarious themselves, so I guess there's that. :D

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Hello Man wrote...

AVPen wrote...

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The cereal thing I think is no biggy IMO. Every serious story needs a small amount of humor now and then. We obviously experienced it in ME2 and with Joker.

Are you seriously trying to compare Kai Leng with Joker:?


Are you seriously thinking im comparing the two? Of course not! I was just stating that humor is sometimes necessary in any genre. =]

As long as it fits the character.


I don't think Kai Leng was trying to be funny. What I actually find funny from my point of view is that people are making a big deal out of  it. Heck I do the samething probably if I was hungry. "Hey psst, whats he have in the fridge"

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@didymos: ...please tell me that's a joke. Please for the sake of my ability to breathe.


It's straight-up legit, yo. That's how they do on Omega, homegirl.

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Hello Man wrote...

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Just read the preview.

Hell, just read the prologue.


If your talking to me I have.Even if I did read it again, we probably wouldn't be thinking at the same level, so that's why I ask.


-Gillian being 18 when four years earlier she was 12 
-Biotics levels of power when there were levels of implants L2, L3,L5....
-The council having their meetings in front of public as if it was a spectacle when in Mass Effect a VI tells you the council meetings are private, and frankly, would you have meetings with interestellar repercussions in front of a bunch of civilians. Really?
-The batarians have an embassy since when? they left the citadel and one of their dimplomats tried to assassinate the council three years earlier.
-The quarians letting Gillian take a ship. Ships is the thing quarians value most and they are not gonna let three humans take it.
-Kai Leng, a human, in the homeworld of the batarians... right...
-An asari saying "oh my god" instead of "by the goddess"
-Kai Leng eating Anderson's cereals on his apartment wtf?
-Gillian is an adult in the quarian ship because she is 18 (she got 6 years older in 4 years right...) when quarians reach that rank when they come back from their pilgrimage.

And those are only fifty pages and I'm sure I'm leaving some. 

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didymos1120 wrote...

Just found this snippet in the preview-that-shall-not-be-named:

"Rasna vas Kather (Rasna crew of the Kather)"


This novel reads like those early D&D novels in the 80s.  The ones that acted like they were so much better than all those other fantasy novels because they followed the rules. And they were going to let you know they followed the rules, dammit.  Right down to discussions on fighter weapon proficiencies.