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This book
sucks.

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...and took a Dietz to the story.

Modifié par Galactic Runner, 29 janvier 2012 - 06:15 .


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I definitely think that dossier is meant to read as indicating that Anderson has a son. Otherwise why would his ex-wife want him to visit him for the holidays. Seems pretty clear.

Why would a man she divorced more then twenty years ago be involved in her son's life otherwise?

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 29 janvier 2012 - 06:21 .


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The only thing I can respect so far (haven't read it yet) is the jest of the overall story. The way Dietz handles it and the way Bioware handles it makes it low especially on the detail. So I will treat it as canon but as a badly entertaining story.

I guess we could say the same thing about MassEffect :Galaxy. Not an entirely entertaining game but still canon.

Modifié par Hello Man, 29 janvier 2012 - 06:26 .


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izmirtheastarach wrote...

I definitely think that dossier is meant to read as indicating that Anderson has a son. Otherwise why would his ex-wife want him to visit him for the holidays. Seems pretty clear.

Why would a man she divorced more then twenty years ago be involved in her son's life otherwise?


Because unlike Bioware dating sims, life, love and relationships are complicated, multifaceted things.  They didn't divorce because they didn't love each other, they divorced because he always put the military first in his life.  It's possible that her son has military ambitions and for that reason wants the approval of, and a relationship with one of the most highly decorated, highest ranking alliance officials, who just happens to be his mom's ex-husband.  Networking, sort of.  And if Anderson still cares about her then he would likely do her the favor of helping where he could, but from the sound of the email, he doesn't do much, which is why she is pleading for him to come see them, for her son's sake.


Also, deception blows.

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Hamziz Vakarian wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I definitely think that dossier is meant to read as indicating that Anderson has a son. Otherwise why would his ex-wife want him to visit him for the holidays. Seems pretty clear.

Why would a man she divorced more then twenty years ago be involved in her son's life otherwise?


Because unlike Bioware dating sims, life, love and relationships are complicated, multifaceted things.  They didn't divorce because they didn't love each other, they divorced because he always put the military first in his life.  It's possible that her son has military ambitions and for that reason wants the approval of, and a relationship with one of the most highly decorated, highest ranking alliance officials, who just happens to be his mom's ex-husband.  Networking, sort of.


Also, deception blows.


You can believe it anyway I see it right now. Its not like IMO it will mean something in ME3.

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Hamziz Vakarian wrote...

Because unlike Bioware dating sims, life, love and relationships are complicated, multifaceted things.  They didn't divorce because they didn't love each other, they divorced because he always put the military first in his life.  It's possible that her son has military ambitions and for that reason wants the approval of, and a relationship with one of the most highly decorated, highest ranking alliance officials, who just happens to be his mom's ex-husband.  Networking, sort of.


Also, deception blows.


Well, I'm sure if Bioware wanted to make it explicit, they would have. A lot of the dossiers have vague stuff like that.

Good job keeping us on topic though. Deception is crap. That's the topic, right?

Hello Man wrote...

You can believe it anyway I see it right now. Its not like IMO it will mean something in ME3.


They do live on Earth though.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 29 janvier 2012 - 06:30 .


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OMKeelah! I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS. I was so hype to read this book and......... this ruined it for me. And I'm not blaming anyone(except for Dietz(why Dietz, WHY! this story had so much potential)who f*cked it up) and I usually don't get things ruined for me. I mean for some of the things Jeff pointed out I thought could be forgiven but ........... the way they portrayed Aria,......... the way the timeline gets ****ed up.........WAY to much exposition........Kai Leng being unprepared........I'm DP'ed. This story should've token place AFTER invasion. It's like Dietz didn't get the memo on ME lore. Or he did get the memo and he wiped his f*ckin a** with it and threw it in our faces!(thanks angry joe) Man , this story should've been written by Mac or Drew..... man I'm disappointed.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Good job keeping us on topic though. Deception is crap. That's the topic, right?


Well, that's my opinion, but don't let me put words in your mouth.

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Deception sucks lol... has anyone said that yet?

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Well expect this to be in the bargain bin soon. That the only way Bioware can forget its mistake. Even "if" Dietz was a good writer among other things this book completely shatters his reputation now. I don't think any video game company will want to hire him after this.

Modifié par Hello Man, 29 janvier 2012 - 06:32 .


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Hamziz Vakarian wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Good job keeping us on topic though. Deception is crap. That's the topic, right?


Well, that's my opinion, but don't let me put words in your mouth.


No, no. Those were my words. To put this as harshly as possible, this book is really not very good at all.

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Hello Man wrote...

You can believe it anyway I see it right now. Its not like IMO it will mean something in ME3.


Oh, we're tilting at windmills, no doubt.  Just a fun discussion, albeit off-topic.

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OMKeelah! I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS. I was so hype to read this book and......... this ruined it for me. And I'm not blaming anyone(except for Dietz(why Dietz, WHY! this story had so much potential)who f*cked it up) and I usually don't get things ruined for me. I mean for some of the things Jeff pointed out I thought could be forgiven but ........... the way they portrayed Aria,......... the way the timeline gets ****ed up.........WAY to much exposition........Kai Leng being unprepared........I'm DP'ed. This story should've token place AFTER invasion. It's like Dietz didn't get the memo on ME lore. Or he did get the memo and he wiped his f*ckin a** with it and threw it in our faces!(thanks angry joe) Man , this story should've been written by Mac or Drew..... man I'm disappointed.


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SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

Deception sucks lol... has anyone said that yet?

Roughly 140 pages of it.

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*hugs his Dragon Age novels*

There there, Maric's Elven harem doesn't look so bad anymore.

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Random Jerkface wrote...

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

Deception sucks lol... has anyone said that yet?

Roughly 140 pages of it.


145, I do declare. Thank goodness we managed to steer so many people away from this monstrosity.

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Is it still considered "Amazon Bombing" if you haven't read the full book, but you know it sucks to high hell?

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Hamziz Vakarian wrote...

Is it still considered "Amazon Bombing" if you haven't read the full book, but you know it sucks to high hell?

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I would. But then again nothing is going to stop people from doing it anyway.

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Hello Man wrote...

Hamziz Vakarian wrote...

Is it still considered "Amazon Bombing" if you haven't read the full book, but you know it sucks to high hell?


I would. But then again nothing is going to stop people from doing it anyway.


I just thought the term was used to describe poor reviews for a product that were retribution for often unrelated offenses, but in this case, it's a bit different - it's awful, and we all know it.  I certainly don't want to waste MY money on it, but I want to spare as many other enthusiasts as possible from wasting their money as well.  Given the generous previews, how much of this monstrosity must I read before I can tell people it's unadulterated ****ty************ with a clear conscience?


Nevermind, I just answered my own question.

Modifié par Hamziz Vakarian, 29 janvier 2012 - 07:04 .


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Edit:  nevermind...not enough sleep leads to dumb posts...Image IPB

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But, thats obviously abusing the system for which it was intended for. Even if right now you believe the book is bad I wouldn't do it but, that's your choice. We're already informing people on the book here on BSN just spread the word somewhere else.

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"just as Leng was about to pee in the vase he had selected for that purpose, something happened."

I'm dying.

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Zhuinden wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Am I the only one that isn't really excited about Dietz taking over Drew K's series?

XD


He could see it coming.
But nothing could have prepared any of us.


I am not just a Prince, I am a Prophet.

And everyone's favorite Prince is back in the thread.

So supposedly someone hates me? What's going on there?

I WANT DETAILS.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

"just as Leng was about to pee in the vase he had selected for that purpose, something happened."

I'm dying.


It'll be a slow, hilarious death, unfortunately.