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I see, I see. A little more description would have helped with clarification. But now I just think worse of this book.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 29 janvier 2012 - 08:21 .


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Also, why does he keep referring to Zon as 'Von'? Sometimes mixing the names on the same page?

And why did nobody at Bioware or the editors pick that up?

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Lord Aesir wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Did the book ever mention exposure to eezo and biotics in the same sentence?

I don't think eezo was ever mentioned

Considering that his descriptions of biotic powers always involve "gathering energy," like qi powers/solar beam, his knowledge of how mass effect fields are manipulated is suspect.

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Random Jerkface wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Did the book ever mention exposure to eezo and biotics in the same sentence?

I don't think eezo was ever mentioned

Considering that his descriptions of biotic powers always involve "gathering energy," like qi powers/solar beam, his knowledge of how mass effect fields are manipulated is suspect.


I'm surprised then.

You'd think we'd of gotten this-

Gillian-"ITS OVEEEER, FRIEEEZA!!!!!"

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GnusmasTHX wrote...


No, I meant some of the "errors" presented as erroneous in the Google doc aren't. Or at best, require further description or context for the entry in the doc to make sense.

For example, the Citadel being "star-shaped" is correct depending on the angle from which you view it. From the front, with the arms open, the Citadel is plainly star-shaped, and is likened to a pentagram in the wiki. But never mind the wiki, just look at it for yourself.

While I wasn't the person who put that in mistake list, "star-shaped" sounds as "thick in the middle with narrowing appendices" - which is untrue for Citadel since its arms getting wider with distance from center. If I were forced to describe Citadel, I'd say "like flower with five petals".

Likewise, there appears to be entries in the doc of things presented in the book as facetious, one being that the quarians are referred to as "gas suckers". That is plainly derogatory, and while I haven't read the book I can't see that being said in a factual manner.

GnusmasTHX wrote...
Biotics having different levels in their abilities is true. Some are better than others. That's pretty much a fact.

True, some biotics are stronger. But definite levels were never stated before. Besides, how this levels should be determined: who is stronger, person which can, say, Throw with force of 1000 Newtons or person who can create barrier which would absorb 400 points of damage?

Moreover, Dietz states it like level of biotic = number of implant, and I tend to trust my favourite character when he states that L2 are generally stronger than L3.

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The entry about quarian clothing is also unnecessary. The quarians wear clothes above their suits. It's how they personalize them. And they include the items listed. The "motley" part is especially appropriate, given the quarian lifestyle.

I wouldn't say that Tali's suit or suit of each admiral is "motley". One can think that quarians could find a suit for their envoy which doesn't make him look like clown. Anyways, I've never noticed any real clothes on quarians, all they use is pieces of cloth (?) to decorate enviro-suits.

To be honest, image of quarian wearing pants and jacket above enviro-suit is pretty disturbing.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

I see, I see. A little more description would have helped with clarification. But now I just think worse of this book.


Not surprised. We all think badly of it.

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The ending is ludicrous.

I can't believe what he did to Karpyshyn's characters. Honestly stunned.

“Why you rotten bastard,” Kahlee said, as she came to her feet. “I should . . .”


ARGH THIS IS RIDICULOUSLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS SCENE.

(And did Dietz forget that Aria is an extremely powerful biotic herself? Why does she need 'Level 3 adepts" to protect her with barriers?)

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"Level 3 adepts"

Loool. Why does Aria have weak-sauce guards?

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Because the novel has weak-sauce writing.

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What did he do, skim the lore? Skim the wiki description of the game and book plots?

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Perhaps. We don't have all the facts.

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LPPrince wrote...

Because the novel has weak-sauce writing.

Aria obviously didn't train them well enough. Money says two of them have only tail whip, and the other only has splash.

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Aria could wipe out a ton of people herself. She's a super powerful biotic, if judging by the comics and her reputation.

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The ending is ludicrous.

Actually, it might be a triumph of writing. Regardless of how bad the book is, you don't see it coming. The twist is that you wasted your time slogging through the thing.

What a twist.

Aria could wipe out a ton of people herself. She's a super powerful biotic, if judging by the comics and her reputation.

Considering that she's hundreds of years old, is a crime-boss-probably-formerly-commando, and took out a friggin' krogan warlord by herself, I'm pretty sure she could put up a kinetic barrier.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 29 janvier 2012 - 08:56 .


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I hope BioWare has learned from this and only lets Drew write the books.

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Random Jerkface wrote...

The ending is ludicrous.

Actually, it might be a triumph of writing. Regardless of how bad the book is, you don't see it coming. The twist is that you wasted your time slogging through the thing.

What a twist.


Nothing happens for three hundred pages except that he completely trashes the storylines and characterisations built up in the previous books. 

To the point where Karpyshyn now can't even come back and write sequels to his own work, involving his own characters. 

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Aria is Aleena, lets be honest. We knew this from the moment we heard her lines related to her past.

She's amazing enough that she can defend herself. Even if she does hire people to defend her, they aren't going to be so incompetent.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

The ending is ludicrous.

Actually, it might be a triumph of writing. Regardless of how bad the book is, you don't see it coming. The twist is that you wasted your time slogging through the thing.

What a twist.


Nothing happens for three hundred pages except that he completely trashes the storylines and characterisations built up in the previous books. 

To the point where Karpyshyn now can't even come back and write sequels to his own work, involving his own characters. 


Hence the need to disavow the novel from the lore.

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jreezy wrote...

I hope BioWare has learned from this and only lets Drew write the books.


I hope to hell so too.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

The ending is ludicrous.

I can't believe what he did to Karpyshyn's characters. Honestly stunned.

“Why you rotten bastard,” Kahlee said, as she came to her feet. “I should . . .”


ARGH THIS IS RIDICULOUSLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS SCENE.


I have to know the ending now. Can someone PM it to me?

Modifié par catharsisboo, 29 janvier 2012 - 09:00 .


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catharsisboo wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

The ending is ludicrous.

I can't believe what he did to Karpyshyn's characters. Honestly stunned.

“Why you rotten bastard,” Kahlee said, as she came to her feet. “I should . . .”


ARGH THIS IS RIDICULOUSLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS SCENE.


I have to know the ending now. Can someone PM it to me?


Same here please.

#2347
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When's this novel supposed to be released, Tuesday?

I can't wait till then. Then we can just tell people the ending here instead of in PMs.

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@ Total Biscuit & catharsisboo

Done and done. Sorry about my copypasta-fail, catharsis.

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Can someone PM me the ending as well?

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Got it, thanks.

I'm still trying to process it. No words for the stupidity. None at all.