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[seirhart]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I blew the Collector Base to hell and I'm PROUD of it!

good for you you, I also blew up the bse and proud of it as well. We do not need or require the base to beat or understand the reapers. 

[MisterJB]

Blacklash93 wrote...
Would you let a stranger outmatch your army when you don't trust them and know little about them?

This doesn't apply just to humanity, you know? There are dozens of other species we don't see in the game but that exist and have been in the galactic "community" for a lot longer than us and they also don't have the right to increase their dreadnought numbers.
The treaty of Farixen is smart for the Council races. Humans should never have signed because it assures that turians have the firepower to destroy us whenever they feel like it.

[Blacklash93]

MisterJB wrote...

Not, it's not. A human is a human, a turian is a turian.

People said the same thing about humans and animals. But as it turns out we're very connected.

Try to think bigger beyond superficial looks.

Really? Who has the largest economy in the galaxy? The asari.
And yet, who provides the largest number of ships for the Citadel Fleet? Turians and humans by the time of ME2.
Who provides the Council with intel? The salarians.

And how does that apply to what I'm saying? Each species has its strengths and the Asari want to use them to make everyone stronger.

They believe in being the most influential species in the galaxy, just like everyone else.

They would do everything themselves if that were the case. They'd have the biggest fleet, the biggest economy, and the best intel.

[AgitatedLemon]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

I blew the Collector Base to hell and I'm PROUD of it!

I wouldn't announce that. 

People will flame you and call you an idiot for the rest of eternity.

[MisterJB]

seirhart wrote...
This will never happen ever, simply for the reason we do not or will not need be better than every single thing in the universe. The other races will always be better than the humans in other areas, and the whole point of ME 3 is cooperation.

I don't care what the point of ME3 is. Why should we ever accept that other races will be better than humanity in certain areas instead of working to improve the expertise of humans in those areas?

[naledgeborn]

I'm glad the Mass Effect universe isn't real. Judging by this thread we'd be enslaved by the other race-nations in a matter of decades because of our own naivete.

[Eclipse_9990]

MisterJB wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Is that a bad thing to be? :3

If it hurts your people? Sure.
Otherwise, I have no right to judge what those huma/asari couples do in the privacy of their rooms.

All I know is Cerberus supporters were wrong about Cerberus, yet do everything they can to justify their choices. Even though Mass Effect 3, and Mass Effect 1 proves that they were wrong. Cerberus fans sure are funny people.

Did I defend Cerberus or simply argue for a more human positive agenda? There is a difference, you know?

Humans are already doing well whats there to argue about? They're being more accepted, and they already have a seat on the council. Something alot of species don't even get! I don't get the point of arguing about this, humanity isn't a down puppy getting kicked around by the big dogs. Humanity is doing well, they don't need to become who want it to be. If they did you might as well call humanity, batarians. 

naledgeborn wrote...

I'm glad the Mass Effect universe isn't real. Judging by this thread we'd be enslaved by the other race-nations in a matter of decades because of our own naivete.

Slavery isn't legal in council space so yeah.

Put that paranoia of yours back in its box. It's unsightly. Besides if they wanted to enslave humanity they would have done it. Asari+Turians+Salarians vs Humanity.. Yeah. Humans are screwed. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:10 .

[Blacklash93]

naledgeborn wrote...

I'm glad the Mass Effect universe isn't real. Judging by this thread we'd be enslaved by the other race-nations in a matter of decades because of our own naivete.

And that's better than humanity doing the same to other races?

And no, the council is against slavery.

[incinerator950]

Why are you still having an opinionated argument about what people do in their games?

[G3rman]

MisterJB wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...
Would you let a stranger outmatch your army when you don't trust them and know little about them?

This doesn't apply just to humanity, you know? There are dozens of other species we don't see in the game but that exist and have been in the galactic "community" for a lot longer than us and they also don't have the right to increase their dreadnought numbers.
The treaty of Farixen is smart for the Council races. Humans should never have signed because it assures that turians have the firepower to destroy us whenever they feel like it.

This is like saying its ok for any country to acquire nuclear weapons.  Believe it or not the Treaty of Farixen is doing some form of good if not with its negatives.

Humans being a council race can now have 3 Dreads for every 5 Turian and every 1 associate.  Also remember that humans have gotten around the treaty by building Carriers which, while the size of dreadnaughts, are not under the treaty and therefore not limited in number.

Its not really hindering us at all while keeping galactic peace, woop woop.

[naledgeborn]

Blacklash93 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

I'm glad the Mass Effect universe isn't real. Judging by this thread we'd be enslaved by the other race-nations in a matter of decades because of our own naivete.

And that's better than humanity doing the same to other races?

And no, the council is against slavery.

The Volus... Illium... Right...

Edit: There's a huge difference between diplomacy and concession 

Modifié par naledgeborn, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:11 .

[AgitatedLemon]

incinerator950 wrote...

Why are you still having an opinionated argument about what people do in their games?

This is the internet. Differing opinions = wrong.

I thought you knew.

[Blacklash93]

naledgeborn wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

I'm glad the Mass Effect universe isn't real. Judging by this thread we'd be enslaved by the other race-nations in a matter of decades because of our own naivete.

And that's better than humanity doing the same to other races?

And no, the council is against slavery.

The Volus... Illium... Right...

A person who chooses to work for someone for an extended period of time to pay off debts is not a slave, but a servant. And it's not discriminatory.

And what about the volus? They work with the Turians, not for them.

The council would never enslave anyone. That's why they've been at odds with the batarians.

I also like how you tactfully evaded my question about humanity enslaving other races.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:15 .

[Eclipse_9990]

naledgeborn wrote...

The Volus... Illium... Right...

Illium is a rich omega.  The volus work with the Turians willingly, because its in their best interest protection wise, and financially. As the above poster mentioned the Council would never support slavery. Its why they don't get on with the batarians. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:17 .

[incinerator950]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Why are you still having an opinionated argument about what people do in their games?

This is the internet. Differing opinions = wrong.

I thought you knew.

I did, I choose not to explain that my opinions.  They tend to be outright hostile.  Hence why I let guns talk, or stay in multiplayer games.  

[MisterJB]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Humans are already doing well whats there to argue about? They're being more accepted, and they already have a seat on the council. Something alot of species don't even get! I don't get the point of arguing about this, humanity isn't a down puppy getting kicked around by the big dogs.

Humans are doing well despite the aliens, not because of them.

Also, having a seat on the Council has, believe it or not, weakened us. The asari appropriate our ships and crew to defend Council space and when our colonists dissapear and our councilor asks for the help of the Citadel fleet, it is voted 3 to 1 against


Humanity is doing well, they don't need to become who want it to be. If they did you might as well call humanity, batarians. 

Besides if they wanted to enslave humanity they would have done it. Asari+Turians+Salarians vs Humanity.. Yeah. Humans are screwed. 

Oh, the shackles are there. They're just not as visible as they would be were they made of steel.

[naledgeborn]

Blacklash93 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

I'm glad the Mass Effect universe isn't real. Judging by this thread we'd be enslaved by the other race-nations in a matter of decades because of our own naivete.

And that's better than humanity doing the same to other races?

And no, the council is against slavery.

The Volus... Illium... Right...

A person who chooses to work for someone for an extended period of time to pay off debts is not a slave, but a servant. And it's not discriminatory.

And what about the volus? They work with the Turians, not for them.

The council would never enslave anyone. That's why they've been at odds with the batarians.

I also like how you tactfully evaded my question about humanity enslaving other races.

I didn't evade. I said diplomacy is a farcry from concession which is what you and others in this thread support. I believe in diplomacy but not at the expense of weakening humanity. 

And implying that indentured servitude isn't slavery is the stupidest thing I've ever read. And if you truly believe that the Volus aren't victim to Turian imperialization you're dumber than you come across. 

Modifié par naledgeborn, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:20 .

[AgitatedLemon]

incinerator950 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Why are you still having an opinionated argument about what people do in their games?

This is the internet. Differing opinions = wrong.

I thought you knew.

I did, I choose not to explain that my opinions.  They tend to be outright hostile.  Hence why I let guns talk, or stay in multiplayer games.  

You are a better person than I.

[MisterJB]

The drell are slaves and they don't even realize it.

[Eclipse_9990]

MisterJB wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Humans are already doing well whats there to argue about? They're being more accepted, and they already have a seat on the council. Something alot of species don't even get! I don't get the point of arguing about this, humanity isn't a down puppy getting kicked around by the big dogs.

Humans are doing well despite the aliens, not because of them.

Also, having a seat on the Council has, believe it or not, weakened us. The asari appropriate our ships and crew to defend Council space and when our colonists dissapear and our councilor asks for the help of the Citadel fleet, it is voted 3 to 1 against


Humanity is doing well, they don't need to become who want it to be. If they did you might as well call humanity, batarians. 

Besides if they wanted to enslave humanity they would have done it. Asari+Turians+Salarians vs Humanity.. Yeah. Humans are screwed. 

Oh, the shackles are there. They're just not as visible as they would be were they made of steel.

Dear lord... If the Mass Effect verse was real I can totally picture you as some rightwing supposed freedom fighter, trying to blow up alien property for the sake of human "freedom", but then you'd get arrested(ironically by humans), so it wouldn't be a problem. 

[Blacklash93]

naledgeborn wrote...
I didn't evade. I said diplomacy is a farcry from concession which is what you and others in this thread support. I believe in diplomacy but not at the expense of weakening humanity. 

And implying that indentured servitude isn't slavery is the stupidest thing I've ever read. And if you truly believe that the Volus aren't victim to Turian imperialization you're dumber than come across. 

Perhaps I can't remember correctly, but I believe indentured servitude was the act of choosing to settle debts by serving the one you were indebted to for a period of time. Am I right on this?

And as far as I've seen there's nothing to suggest that the Volus are forced to cooperate with the Turians. They choose to for the sake of business.

And I support concession to the other races? I just want everyone to get along and it seems BSN isn't even able of comprehending what that means.

And cut it with the insults. Assuming you're even capable of it.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:32 .