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[inFAMOUS_Side]

 hey Guys, i just wanna know which team would be the best in dragon age 2.. I currently have my elemental and spirit healer mage, anders also an elemental mage, aveline as my tank and varrick as my damage dealer.. Do you think its a good team? I also have an other team which has my two handed weapon warrior, aveline as tank, bethany as my elemntal and healer and anders as a earth and sky mage(i forgot the title).. So which team do you think is the best.? Help me please.. Thanks!

[sharkboy421]

Since you mentioned 2 characters:
1. Now I have only done one mage play through but it was as a Spirit Healer.  Hawke as a Spirit Healer opens up a lot of options for your party set up.  You are a much better healer than Anders could ever be and can still max out elemental for a lot of damage.  I ended up going Hawke, Aveline, Varric and Merrill and found it to be a very smooth play through.  But in all honesty you can really go with who ever you like, Spirit Healer gives you a lot of flexibilty.  Also there are some great guides here on the forums.

2. As a warrior, 2h or SnS, Hawke doubles as the party's tank and main dd.  At least this is how Ive played it.  So having Aveline in your party to tank is a bit redundant as a warrior Hawke will have enough hp to get through heavy attacks.  But you can certainly take her if you want.  I generally run Hawke, Anders, Merrill, and Varric.  Anders for heals and haste and Varric and Merrill set up CCC for your warrior to take advantage of.  Merrill is nice to set up Brittle targets for a 2h war and Varric (or any rogue) is good for Disorient for SnS.  But again its really up to you and your play style.  

Ive found that in general damage is the most important thing DA2 battles.  So try to use a team that can exploit CCCs for lots of damage to quickly down your foes.  I also happen to like Varric and Merrill as characters so I will almost always pick them anyways.  There are a lot of great guides for the different classes here on the forums that are worth looking at.  Sorry for the long reply but I hope I was able to answer your question .

[inFAMOUS_Side]

Thanks, i know tha DA2 is like more combat and less tactics rather than DAO which is more likely you will use more strategies.. I like varric on my team because his strong and i like his ability arrow storm.. I also like anders and varric's conversation because its kinda funny.. I also want to change my elemental mage to primal cuz i heard primal mages are much more stronger.. Thanks!

[sharkboy421]

Yeah I love Varric's chatter. And primal is really strong (very few enemies have a resistance to lightning damage) but I personally prefer elemental on Hawke because it has more active damage spells (and I like just like throwing fireballs). I'll then give Primal to Merrill and Anders. But yeah either way works, its really whatever you like.

[AreleX]

anders merrill varric for any class, hands down

[Relix28]

AreleX wrote...

anders merrill varric for any class, hands down

With Sebastian being a viable substitute for Varric and Bethany being a viable substitute for Merrill (when available).

[inFAMOUS_Side]

Im gonna reset my mage's abilities from elemental/spirit healer to primal/spirit healer so my hawke will be stronger. But i would still like varric, anders and aveline in my team..

Modifié par inFAMOUS_Side, 26 janvier 2012 - 11:16 .

[inFAMOUS_Side]

I also forgot to get fenris at my mage.. Is fenris worth it in my mage's team?

[AreleX]

unless you're playing nightmare, you can pretty much do whatever you want to and be alright, so that depends on your difficulty.

if you are on nightmare, the above listed team of anders/merrill/varric is your surefire bet. i wrote a mage guide with companion builds for most characters, check it out if you please.

to directly answer your question: fenris is a bum

[sharkboy421]

inFAMOUS_Side wrote...

Im gonna reset my mage's abilities from elemental/spirit healer to primal/spirit healer so my hawke will be stronger. But i would still like varric, anders and aveline in my team..

That would work just fine.  I just happen to like Merrill more than Anders.  He's a nice enough guy but really starts to get on my nerves about halfway through.  And Merrill so damn cute:wub:.

And Fenris hmmm, I rarely use him apart from his quest lines but he seems to be a good dd and half way decent tank (though no where near as good as Aveline).  I'd say he is worth getting just so you have the whole team ready to go.  Also not so important for your mage but for your warrior, unless you have Legacy or the item packs, the Act3 gift for Fenris turns into the best physical dmg 2h sword in the game (just be sure to chose the option to keep it instead of giving it to him, he doesnt seem to mind either way).

[Relix28]

Anything is viable is this game, really (except maybe Carver). But as far as pure efficency goes, Fenris is a very poor choice. The point in having a Warrior companion in your party is mostly for tanking, and occasional STAGGER setups and dps buffs via Rally. Aveline is waaaay better at tanking and she has the only reliable STAGGER move (Shield Bash), while Fenris goes down like a wuss when he tries to tank, and his main STAGGER ability (Sunder) is currently bugged.
So, overall Aveline is a much better choice IMO.

EDIT: I forgot not everyone is playing on Nightmare. Basically, on any difficulty below Nightmare, Warriors are much more efficient since they can dish out some pretty decent damage via their talents, without the risk of wiping out your entire party in one hit, since there is no friendly fire on difficulties below Nightmare. So, yeah, what Arelex said.

Modifié par Relix28, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:20 .

[inFAMOUS_Side]

Yeah difficulty is on nightmare.. Thanks everyone! I just beat the game and turns out carver helped me even he became a templar, he couldnt kill his family... The ending is a cliff hanger tho.. I want to know what happened to the champion and what's leilian's role in the ending.. Jeez i cant wait for the next one i hope its about what happen to the grey warden we played in origins or about the champion.. I prefer the grey warden tho cuz i miss alistair and the others..

[cid_666]

It´s simple... if you help at the mages never know at Drsino help the assasin of your mayher and whit the teampliers you do it abest legebd for DA-5... the champion dont dies ...he is the gero of Legacy ...of mark ot the asseain and he is the hero of DA-3,,,good news really?

[Ferretinabun]

Wondering how useful Anders will be if you're a Spirit Healer yourself, to be honest...

[PsychicHammer]

Ferretinabun wrote...

Wondering how useful Anders will be if you're a Spirit Healer yourself, to be honest...

In that case - as Arelex wrote, Anders, Merril, Varric.
Hawke Elemental
Anders Elemental+Walkin Bomb set (obliteration)
Merrill Elemental Primal
Varric either Sabotage for Fatuguing Fog (though I don't find it as necessary without a Warrior with S&S CCCs, and it would only help WB against Elites, but beetween triple Winter's Grasp, Pull, Gravitic Ring, Deep Freeze and Pinning Shot you'd really have to mess up to not be able to keep Elites in check) OR Specialist/Marksman/Rapid Pinning Shot
(with Haste and speed buffs from Marksman and Specialist trees, Varric will dish out so much hurt he may come close to Rogue Hawke at times)

Gravitic Ring+Triple Firestorm+WB = WIN

EDIT: got a bit carried away there. The point is, when he doesn't have to play with the damn Panacea, Anders puts DAMN HURT on those mobs. Invest points in mag and some in con. Mage Hawke has so much mana that running Rock Armor AND Valiant Aura doesn't brake your mana pool that badly, even if you sometimes have to use Healing Aura. Plus, there's always pots in those rare situations when you do run out of mana, but again, that is rarely the case. Pure dps Anders is amazing, as has been proven, for example in the Deep Roads speed run (Anders as the main dps vs Dragon, I lol'd so hard)

Summing up, dps Blondie can be pretty cool, given he keeps his moth shut.

Modifié par Scott_Press, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:16 .

[mr_afk]

Ferretinabun wrote...

Wondering how useful Anders will be if you're a Spirit Healer yourself, to be honest...

 - Anders provides the party with perma-haste (using martyr, swift justice etc). The extra haste is still very useful with a mage hawke as two hastes are better than one. Also it means there's no sudden lapses in party dps.

 - Anders provides some of the largest dps (upgraded vengeance & friendship bonus = +30% damage).

 - Mages in general make the best companions as they can automatically crowd-control and CCC easily via tactics.

 - His extra heal can allow hawke to pay less attention to the health of the party, as heals + potions should cover it mostly. Although in a 'healer' spirit healer setup, i suppose it wouldn't be that necessary.

Basically the only downside to Anders (besides his constant whining/sermonising) is how ridiculously fragile he is.


On a similar note, the best party combination (for rogues and warriors) is with bethany, anders and varric. Bethany's access to haste makes her considerably better than merrill - but unfortunately she's not the most available of characters.


Anyway, back to my mass effect marathon.

[Relix28]

mr_afk wrote...

Anyway, back to my mass effect marathon.

Mass Effect marathons FTMFW! I have been playing nothing but Mass Effect for the past 2 weeks.

Brofist? 

[mr_afk]

haha yeah, it's actually the best!
spent the last week or so on an insanity run through me2 with a vanguard, and the me3 hype inspired me to do another play-through right from the start.

i hadn't played it for a year or two (since my last marathon), so it's almost like the first time all again.. i'm even starting to remember how much i hate the mako! haha

[Relix28]

I finished my Insanity SlamGuard playthrough last week as well. Shoutouts to Arelex, Kronner and other Vanguard maniacs out there.

I'm still trying to find the will to go through ME1 again (I hate the constant pause combat), but I think I'll fire it up as soon as I'm finished with my CQC Shotgun Infiltrator in ME2.

Also, ME thread hijack FTW! lol

Modifié par Relix28, 27 janvier 2012 - 05:38 .

[mr_afk]

there's something really satisfying about the combination of flying head-butts and shot-gunning people in the face haha.

but yeah, i'm kinda keen to try out some more experimental setups. Haven't really gone through all the classes yet - classes like adept are too much of a pain when you have to whittle away all their defences beforehand.. but maybe i'm just doing it wrong.

me1 isn't that bad so far.. the combat could be better, but i'm amusing myself with renegade speech options (i generally can't help going paragon). the only annoying thing is all the side-quest/assignment things, where i have to search obscure planets for their location (i.e. wiki them).

anyway, probably shouldn't derail this thread too much.
so just to keep things relevant, akjhfaksjadragonage-y-things

[Relix28]

Yeah, ur right. We shouldn't completely derail this thread.

On Topic:

Carver and Fenris suck.


Continuing Off Topic:

A lot of people are "doing it wrong" with ME2 adepts. You can check this video for some pointers on how to do it right. www.youtube.com/watch
It's actually quite fun, once you get the hang of it. 

[mr_afk]

on topic:
in case anyone was wondering, aveline with a 'tank build' is unnecessary given how manly she is. dps-aveline is where it's at; Pull of Abyss --> Fatiguing Fog --> full strength aveline using upgraded scatter/assault CCCs and/or walking bomb CCC = Beautiful explosions.

also, on a slightly unrelated note, Tallis looks weird.


off topic:
wow, that looks pretty awesome. things seem to die a lot faster than I remember when I tried that. I'll give it a shot once I get my me1 run ready for import.

well good-luck with your invisible shotgunner!

Modifié par mr_afk, 27 janvier 2012 - 06:40 .

[Relix28]

on topic:

Using Dual Haste (Mage Hawke + Anders), turns Nightmare difficulty into a joke. It also looks ridiculous.


off topic:

Thnx. I'm actually having a blast with that build (no pun intended). And good luck with your Adept as well.

[AreleX]

i want to see mr afk me2 vids

there has been a significant lack of the worst player in my life for the past few months

this saddens me verily

[PrinceLionheart]

I have to ask, where did the "Worst Player" title come from anyway? I've seen it pop up in several threads now.

As for Party load out, if you're doing a Spirit Healer!Mage then Merrill, Varric, and Aveline or Anders works best. The last pick comes down to which one your prefer, someone to Tank and soak up most of the damage (Aveline) or Bonus Haste and CC (Anders.) I adore Aveline because she's capable of absorbing half of Hawke's damage.

With warrior, definitely go Merrill, Varric, and Anders.

Modifié par PrinceLionheart, 28 janvier 2012 - 03:49 .