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[SkittlesKat96]

DA 2 wasn't one of my biggest disappointments and I think there were other games that disappointed larger quantities of people (Brink, Duke Nukem Forever for example) though this doesn't surprise me too much, DA 2 was still definitely near the top of disappointments.

[Uccio]

It was also so big disappointment that I decided to register in this forum just to voice my concern about the game. Never done that before but since I have enjoyed DAO so much I had to do something about it.

[LinksOcarina]

Game Informer also named Bulletstorm, L.A Noire, Rage, Shadows of the Damned, Driver: San Fransisco, Crysis 2, Lego Star Wars III, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Modern Warfare 3, and six different sport games (which I can't judge if they are good or not because its a genre I don't like personally so I never played them) in their top 50 games of the year....

Yeah, I don't take them seriously as all.

And for the record, the reason why people complain in the end about the reviews before and after is the fact that they don't put names on the top ten lists...so it's a collective consensus of the entire magazine, not the personal preferences of the writers.

Not to tout my own website, but we made our five games of the year lists a while back, and they were more diverse, and dare I say, accurate, than anything done by Game Informer anyway.

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 29 janvier 2012 - 11:12 .

[Feanor_II]

Question: Gameinformer names DA2 one of it's biggest dissapointments of the year. Fair?

Answer: YES

[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

I don't know who's behind that GAMEINFORMER generalization about Dragon Age 2 but one thing I can say, "They are misinformed!"

[LinksOcarina]

BrotherWarth wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Game Informer also named Bulletstorm, L.A Noire, Rage, Shadows of the Damned, Driver: San Fransisco, Crysis 2, Lego Star Wars III, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Modern Warfare 3, and six different sport games (which I can't judge if they are good or not because its a genre I don't like personally so I never played them) in their top 50 games of the year....

Yeah, I don't take them seriously as all

So you're saying the games you listed are bad? I can see Bulletstorm and Driver not being good enough to be on that list but the rest are all well recieved games.

See thats the thing. They were well received. But over time, they were all just as, if not more so, dissapointing than Dragon Age II.

Rage and Marvel vs Capcom 3 in particular are guilty of this. In fact not even Rage, it was dissapointing from the start. MvC 3 lost a lot of its luster the minute the sequel came out 8 months later, so putting it on the list, even if its a good game, is kind of suspect. And fact of the matter is, they didnt put that on the most dissapointing list either, instead they made casual mention to it when putting, at number 7, how they believe capcom is screwing fans of Mega Man.

And while I didn't play Modern Warfare 3, friends of mine, including my own brother, who are fans of the series, said it was terrible and dissapointing, and felt like it was a waste of time.

So no they are not bad, but each of those game is just as dissapointing in the end, so its all arbitrary which makes how they conduct the lists rather pointless.

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 30 janvier 2012 - 12:30 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Game Informer also named Bulletstorm, L.A Noire, Rage, Shadows of the Damned, Driver: San Fransisco, Crysis 2, Lego Star Wars III, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Modern Warfare 3, and six different sport games (which I can't judge if they are good or not because its a genre I don't like personally so I never played them) in their top 50 games of the year....

Yeah, I don't take them seriously as all.

Decent games. I thought they were quite fun to play. I guess i can't be taken seriously now. Damn.

Why don't you do some shameless self promotion and tell me the name of your website? I'd like to check it out.

[Morroian]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Game Informer also named Bulletstorm, L.A Noire, Rage, Shadows of the Damned, Driver: San Fransisco, Crysis 2, Lego Star Wars III, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Modern Warfare 3, and six different sport games (which I can't judge if they are good or not because its a genre I don't like personally so I never played them) in their top 50 games of the year....

Yeah, I don't take them seriously as all.

Decent games. I thought they were quite fun to play.

DA2 is also fun to play. If thats your only criterion and you think DA2 is disappointing then you're judging it differently to other games.

[eroeru]

Atakuma wrote...

While I agree with what they said, this does nothing but make them seem disingenuous. They either liked the game and jumped on the bandwagon after the backlash or their review was bull****.

Pretty much this...

[Gibb_Shepard]

Morroian wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Game Informer also named Bulletstorm, L.A Noire, Rage, Shadows of the Damned, Driver: San Fransisco, Crysis 2, Lego Star Wars III, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Modern Warfare 3, and six different sport games (which I can't judge if they are good or not because its a genre I don't like personally so I never played them) in their top 50 games of the year....

Yeah, I don't take them seriously as all.

Decent games. I thought they were quite fun to play.

DA2 is also fun to play. If thats your only criterion and you think DA2 is disappointing then you're judging it differently to other games.

DIdn't find it fun at all. 

You seem to think "fun" is one criterion. For me, fun is everything. Story, gameplay, characters, atmosphere, they all play into how much fun i'm having.

Modifié par Gibb_Shepard, 30 janvier 2012 - 01:55 .

[LinksOcarina]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Game Informer also named Bulletstorm, L.A Noire, Rage, Shadows of the Damned, Driver: San Fransisco, Crysis 2, Lego Star Wars III, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Modern Warfare 3, and six different sport games (which I can't judge if they are good or not because its a genre I don't like personally so I never played them) in their top 50 games of the year....

Yeah, I don't take them seriously as all.

Decent games. I thought they were quite fun to play. I guess i can't be taken seriously now. Damn.

Why don't you do some shameless self promotion and tell me the name of your website? I'd like to check it out.

I didn't say that about you, i'm just saying this is arbitrary as a company opinion then.

And I pmed you the link to the lists...i'm not sure about the rules of self-promotion here and honestly I don't feel comfy showing off stuff ive had a hand at writing unless if it's a topic I actually made to promote it, which I did once. 

Also, let me know if you like/dislike the list we put up and stuff like that. any feedback is good as we try to make the website more fucntional and organized and all that.

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 30 janvier 2012 - 02:24 .

[Valcutio]

100% fair. The writers turned Anders from a funny, amusing buddy-type into a whiny, clingy crybaby. The rest of the game was a disappointment in just about every aspect.

The only thing I thought was decent about DA2 was the redesign of the Qunari aesthetics. Toss everything else.

[TEWR]

Morroian wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Game Informer also named Bulletstorm, L.A Noire, Rage, Shadows of the Damned, Driver: San Fransisco, Crysis 2, Lego Star Wars III, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Modern Warfare 3, and six different sport games (which I can't judge if they are good or not because its a genre I don't like personally so I never played them) in their top 50 games of the year....

Yeah, I don't take them seriously as all.

Decent games. I thought they were quite fun to play.

DA2 is also fun to play.

That depends on how you define fun. Personally, I define fun as an engaging story, thrilling combat, a protagonist I can call my own, amazing companions and so many other things.

And DAII was sorely lacking in 3 out of the 4 things I specifically named, and thus it isn't fun for me and probably wasn't fun for Gibb either.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 30 janvier 2012 - 09:20 .

[philippe willaume]

eroeru wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

While I agree with what they said, this does nothing but make them seem disingenuous. They either liked the game and jumped on the bandwagon after the backlash or their review was bull****.

Pretty much this...

thirded

[BomimoDK]

I liked it and was disappointed. yes, that can happen folks.

[Priisus]

Last I checked Gameinformer gave a score of 8.25 to DA2 and I'm very sure that they gave a lot of other games a lower score than 8.25... So seriously they name a game that they themselves gave 8.25 to as a disappointment? Credible much?

DA2 is a disappointment if you compare it to DA;O or other top BioWare releases such as ME, ME2 & KOTOR... Personally I don't think it's a bad game and definitely did not deserve a score of 0. The main reasons that were often listed as being the big, main disappointment of DA2 are gameplay mechanics, choices not making much impact (and literally the side you choose at the end don't matter), recycled environments and bat-crazy characters.

***Also to note: I read in a blog post somewhere (a cosplayer who had a chance to talk to Gaider) that the Harvester boss was not intended to be a boss if you side with the mages and that you're able to confront him about "a certain friendship" of his which would then give you the option to kill him. I think there's so much that the dev took out from the game that I wonder what DA2 might have been if given the proper development process. All in all Act 3 is such an abomination that it destroys most of what I actually like about DA2.

Nobody is going to argue about recycled environments, it is universally agreed that it is bad. As for gameplay mechanics, people are quite split over it and I think in the end it comes down more towards personal taste. Choices not making impact... The reason for the Harvester boss battle even if you side with the mages is so ****** poor and the end boss is the same either way whoever you side with. And then we look at the kind of antagonists we're given in DA;O like Loghain & the Architect, heck even bloody Howe whom nobody likes is a better antagonist to our DA2 last boss(es). Heck... what I like about DA2 in the end is because the moral of the whole game is literally shades of gray and a few years down the road people are still going to debate about the story and characters.

So as far as DA2 being a disappointment - yes, but not the biggest of the year though and definitely not the worst game of the year imo. People have their own like, dislike and bias and in the end all these reviews/opinion columns are just another matter of personal taste. The same goes for the Anders debate, you don't get 2k+ pages of post about the guy if he's universally thought of as dumb, egomaniacal, whiny, selfish mage... He's everything but boring.

Modifié par Priisus, 30 janvier 2012 - 12:47 .

[BomimoDK]

At the ***part. If there was so much "Cut". Why don't they just reinsert it with patches? They can pretend to be remorseful all they want. But them leaving it the shape it is proves the opposite. They don't care about the state that Act 3 is in.

[Demonhoopa]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Morroian wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Game Informer also named Bulletstorm, L.A Noire, Rage, Shadows of the Damned, Driver: San Fransisco, Crysis 2, Lego Star Wars III, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Modern Warfare 3, and six different sport games (which I can't judge if they are good or not because its a genre I don't like personally so I never played them) in their top 50 games of the year....

Yeah, I don't take them seriously as all.

Decent games. I thought they were quite fun to play.

DA2 is also fun to play. If thats your only criterion and you think DA2 is disappointing then you're judging it differently to other games.

DIdn't find it fun at all. 

You seem to think "fun" is one criterion. For me, fun is everything. Story, gameplay, characters, atmosphere, they all play into how much fun i'm having.

Yup me too. And I found DA2 loads of fun. Still playing it.

I couldn't care less if game informer, or anyone else, doesn't like it. Doesn't impact my experience remotely.

[Rauhallinen]

DA2 is the most dissapointing game sequal ever for me. So yeah, I would agree with Gameinformer.

Mediocre and easily forgettable game in its own right.

Modifié par Rauhallinen, 30 janvier 2012 - 08:06 .

[Madcat 124]

As a sequel? Yeah, DA 2 is probably the most disappointing mainly due to how much I loved the first DA. As a stand alone game it's not bad though.

[Xerxes52]

Coming after DA:O, it was a huge disappointment. But I still enjoy playing the game though.

[Rifneno]

Completely fair. The only thing this game has going for it is humorous dialogue. Everything else is "so-so" at best. Battle mechanics? Moderate, very forgettable. Except if you're playing on high difficulty, then it's fairly bad since they made the common mistake of confusing "hard" with "tedious." Doesn't help that they shamelessly sell power. Pay 5 bucks and get an item handed to you on a silver platter in-game, in Act I, that makes the reward for the optional superboss in Act III look like garbage. Graphics? Middle of the road. Not bad, but clearly not in the league of many other recent games. Storytelling? Utterly terrible.

Really the only question I have is... "one of"? There was an equal or greater disappointment than this in 2011?

[Frybread76]

Yes, Gameinformer is being fair because DA2 was a major disappointment.

Was it a bad game? Overall, no. It had some very bad elements, such as reused environments, spawning enemies, a lackluster story, terrible Act 3, childish overtones, etc. Overall, though, it was OK with one or two memorable NPC's. But it was a huge letdown from DA:O. It should never have been called "Dragon Age 2."

Modifié par Frybread76, 31 janvier 2012 - 05:43 .