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SaintEsteban

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So, we already have all of the Mass Effect 1 characters confirmed, aside from whoever died on Virmire, and Wrex, who is also otherwise occupied, either leading Clan Urdnot or fertilizing some plants in the abandoned Salarian camp.

Really, the only limitations on squad members from Mass Effect 2 would be if someone died. Otherwise, I think they should all be available. Let's break it down:
  • Jacob: There's really not much to say about him. He trusts Shepard and likes working without all the red tape.
  • Miranda: She tells the Illusive Man she quits. What else does she have to do now? I suppose there is the option of living a quiet life with her sister and her family, but a) that doesn't fit her personality at all, B) it could potentially draw her father's attention to Oriana again and c) she's too much of a fan favourite. There's really no reason for her not to return in some capacity.
  • Mordin: Out of everyone, he's the one I picture as least likely to return. I always thought of him as more of a noncombatant. I could see him as a crew member, but personally would find it more believable if he was stationed in a regular, well-equipped lab, or at least isn't brought as part of a shore party. Alternatively, the Pirates of Penzance is touring.
  • Grunt: He lives for fighting, always wants a new challenge. Shepard will be fighting. It will be a new challenge. No brainer here.
  • Jack: I could see her filling practically any role, depending on Mass Effect 2's events. She's too complex a character to make a brief blanket statement.
  • Zaeed: He's already put his life on the line and went on the suicide mission, so I don't see that as a problem. I've read people saying he's back in command of the Blue Suns and reforming them; I don't remember this, though, maybe because I took the paragon path and Vido lived. If he is leading them, I could see why he wouldn't be included, but someone would have to fill me in here.
  • Kasumi: She has just as much reason for helping out against the reapers as she did with the collectors (which is, admittedly, less than most other squad members had.) She did have the bit of self interest with wanting Cerberus' help on her personal mission, but hey, I don't see why she wouldn't come back in some capacity.
  • Samara: Her oath only covered the Collectors if I remember correctly, but she should have reason to want to fight the reapers, too. It would be interested to see her operating by her code, rather than subservient to Shepard. She also discusses, at several points including on Omega and Tuchanka, that once the collectors are defeated she'd like to help there. I could definitely see her returning against the reapers.
  • Morinth: I killed her, but from what I saw, she has no motivation to help and is driven by her passions. I see no reason she'd join the fight against the reapers.
  • Thane: Assuming he's still alive (has there been confirmation he'll return?) he seems like another no brainer, especially if Kolyat isn't reconciled with. Even if he is, however, I can't see Thane's philosophy allowing him to ignore the reapers to spend time with his son. I see him dedicating his remaining time to saving the galaxy.
  • Legion: Since geth don't work like organics, he wouldn't have to be present to try to convince them to help Shepard. Seems like another no brainer to me.
Okay, with those out of the way, let's take a look at characters from the first two games who might return. I'll cover Mass Effect 2 first, since almost everyone was recruitable, and there aren't many I can think of left:
  • Kal'reegar: Need I say more? Cool character, could see him being interesting, and besides, Adam Baldwin seems wasted on an NPC.
  • Aria: I can't picture her as a squad member, but apparently she's popular. I did find her interesting, but would prefer her as an NPC. That said, I haven't read Invasion yet, and don't know her role there.
  • Feron: If Liara's coming back as a squad member, he'll probably be too busy running her operations. I'd find learning more about him interesting, though. From the multiple employers he discussed in Redemption, I'm sure he'd have plenty of stories.
  • Captain Bailey: I'd like to see him return in at least some respect. He did get his own mini comic, so he must be of some importance.
  • David Archer: I wonder at the consequences of that decision. Some closure would be nice.
Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head, although I'm sure people have suggestions on others. Anyways, from Mass Effect 1:
  • Kirrahe: An interesting character with a good reason to be involved. I'd like to see him again.
  • Conrad Verner: Well... it would be hilarious to have him as a squad member. Seriously though, I love what they've done with the character so far, it would be interesting to see more.
  • Gianna Parasini: I liked the little nod to her in the second game, and think it would be interesting to see her again.
  • Toombs: The message from him in the second game was a nice touch, it was good to see someone else still hates Cerberus. I see there's a rather massive fan following here, too. I'd like to run into him again.
  • Shiala: Again, a character whose involvement in ME2 was interesting, and I'd like closure on her case, too. Not sure exactly what more could be added, however.
  • Lt. Marie Durand: Maybe her unique experience with the rachni would come into play, I feel there's some potential here.
Of course, I'm leaving out major characters who will obviously return - Anderson, Udina, Hackett, the Illusive Man, etc., and also from the extended media (comics, books, Galaxy.) Thoughts?

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They better give us a good reason why Legion, Jack, Grunt, Samara and Jacob aren't onboard. I think most of the characters might have a decent reason to stay away.

Thane, for example, if not dead, might become too sick to fight early in the game and could perhaps spend the rest of the game in a hospital or something, where you could go see him.

Miranda, if I've correctly put together what little hints I've heard of the leak, might actually have a good role. And a good reason to stay away from Shepard's team.

I'd love to see Kal'Reegar return. Perhaps a temporary squadmate?

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kromify

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well, we do seem to be missing a krogan squaddie.

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Possible spoiler

Baily is confirmed, And depending on your actions Kirrahe and Mordin are also confirmed.

Modifié par Stretzal, 26 janvier 2012 - 09:38 .


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hmm this might seem a little off topic, but i think the reason why we are given only a small amount of characters to have in our squad (not including temps) is that the other people (Legion, Wrex, Kal'reegar, etc) have a different role to play in fighting the war.

either they have to go to another planet while Shepard goes to Thessia (for example), the others have to go to one of their moons or the other side of the planet to get something, or kill another reaper.

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In regards to Miranda, I would have at least given Shepard the opportunity to recruit her (But not make her mandatory for people who don't like her), given her association with Cerberus, and Cerberus being an enemy.

They could have very well absorbed her personal set of missions in ME3 into the main plot without that much extra effort.

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SaintEsteban

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Yes, I understand that not all of these characters would be permanent squad members. That would be one cramped Normandy, even if it does get a bar! And besides, the conversations between missions would take hours. These are just my thoughts on who I'd like to see in some respect, either as a temporary squad member (as it's been hinted there will be several) or in some other respect. For example, with Lt. Durand, I feel it would be interesting for her to speak against the rachni if the queen was spared, claiming they're all mindless brutes. Only Shepard and the council know otherwise, really. I just think these characters all have potential to appear again.

Stretzal wrote...

Possible spoiler

Baily is confirmed, And depending on your actions Kirrahe and Mordin are also confirmed.


Could you please link me to this?

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They probably don't want to bring back everyone who survived the suicide mission because it would be a buttload of potentially wasted dialogue if they did. Even in ME2, the devs stretched themselves pretty thin. Bring everyone back and unique dialogue will probably have to be kept at a minimum again. They've said that a smaller squad would be easier to work with. Anyway, a lot of the characters you'd think would be so totally loyal and devoted to Shepard that they'd follow him/her to the end of the universe or whatever actually have other priorities.

Zaeed joined Shepard in ME2 because Cerberus paid him; he didn't need much convincing to go on the suicide mission other than a lot of money.

Grunt is a member of the Urdnot clan, and the shaman tells you via email to hurry with the fight against the Collectors so Grunt can return to Tuchanka, basically.

Samara seems pretty strict about her code. She'll probably return to asari space and do her thing there.

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Anthropophobic wrote...

They probably don't want to bring back everyone who survived the suicide mission because it would be a buttload of potentially wasted dialogue if they did. Even in ME2, the devs stretched themselves pretty thin. Bring everyone back and unique dialogue will probably have to be kept at a minimum again. They've said that a smaller squad would be easier to work with. Anyway, a lot of the characters you'd think would be so totally loyal and devoted to Shepard that they'd follow him/her to the end of the universe or whatever actually have other priorities.

Zaeed joined Shepard in ME2 because Cerberus paid him; he didn't need much convincing to go on the suicide mission other than a lot of money.

Grunt is a member of the Urdnot clan, and the shaman tells you via email to hurry with the fight against the Collectors so Grunt can return to Tuchanka, basically.

Samara seems pretty strict about her code. She'll probably return to asari space and do her thing there.


I see your point with Zaeed and Samara, but both are debatable. I do agree that there are other potential things for them to do.

Grunt I'd have to argue, though. The shaman's priorities, and indeed Clan Urdnot's, probably aren't in line with his own when there are bigger, better enemies to fight. Grunt says he has everything he needs; kin, clan and enemies to fight (I believe that's the correct quote.) It's hard to see him staying on Tuchanka while the reapers are a threat. This is about the only situation I can imagine where living on the krogan homeworld would be considered "settling down."