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[Someone With Mass]

moneycashgeorge wrote...
Well, they were Prothean ruins in a Prothean world. What else could they be? I am 100% sure that BioWare intended them to be Protheans. Why else go to the effort of designing them?  Your answer seems like a marketing department rationalization of a retcon.

Well, if it's a retcon, we'd need hard facts about the Prothean biology, now wouldn't we?

Also, the inhabitants of Ilos who where there before the Protheans could have might as well put up those statues.

[Gibb_Shepard]

can anyone pm me the lpicture link?

[moneycashgeorge]

Fredvdp wrote...

moneycashgeorge wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The PLC wrote...

How comes the prothean looks nothing like the statues on Ilos?

Because there was nothing that said those statues were modeled after Protheans.

Well, they were Prothean ruins in a Prothean world. What else could they be? I am 100% sure that BioWare intended them to be Protheans. Why else go to the effort of designing them?  Your answer seems like a marketing department rationalization of a retcon.

Maybe the statues are female protheans and they just look very different.

I think my above response applies to your rationalization as well.

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

Were those statues ever called Protheans by anything other than the Codex (which is written in-universe)?

The only thing that implies that they're Protheans is the Codex image, which isn't much of a reliable source.

[didymos1120]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...


Again, there's an explenation for it, I wont say what it is because of spoilers.

That doesn't mean it's not an after-the-fact addition.  Like, for instance, Klingon forehead ridges.

Wouldn't that only apply if we had seen living Protheons before - all we have seen is statues, Hell if humanity was wiped out and some race came to Earth and looked at our statues they would probably think we looked like horses since there more statues of horses than anything else here.

OK, look: I'm not saying it can't be explained in-universe.  I'm saying that, here in the real world, that explanation could very easily be something they came up with much later because they changed their minds about what the Protheans should look like.  It's happened in ME before, with the batarians.  The original Codex image that shipped with ME1 is not the one we have now, because the design was changed.

Modifié par didymos1120, 27 janvier 2012 - 11:46 .

[moneycashgeorge]

Someone With Mass wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Were those statues ever called Protheans by anything other than the Codex (which is written in-universe)?

The only thing that implies that they're Protheans is the Codex image, which isn't much of a reliable source.

oh man, i forgot about the codex image. are you really going to tell me that Bioware made that, intending it to be another species? Ridiculous. It IS a ret-con. There is no reason to pretend that it isnt.

[Anacronian Stryx]

Someone With Mass wrote...

moneycashgeorge wrote...
Well, they were Prothean ruins in a Prothean world. What else could they be? I am 100% sure that BioWare intended them to be Protheans. Why else go to the effort of designing them?  Your answer seems like a marketing department rationalization of a retcon.

Well, if it's a retcon, we'd need hard facts about the Prothean biology, now wouldn't we?

Also, the inhabitants of Ilos who where there before the Protheans could have might as well put up those statues.

Or the "Protheons" were not just a single race but rather a collection of races - The term Protheon is a label given by the present day inhabitants of the ME universe but in truth the Protheons could have been a collection of races just like the present day council races.

[Mayhem br]

So now we know that, the prothean is the biotic and that EDI is the tech.
What class are they?

[Tazzmission]

Mayhem br wrote...

So now we know that, the prothean is the biotic and that EDI is the tech.
What class are they?

wait where did you hear that?

im not complaining but im just interested to know

[Mayhem br]

i've heard it around here in another topic,discussing about a vanguard squadmate in ME3

[Fredvdp]

It's possible that the protheans weren't a single species but a civilization of multiple races, but that would leave some holes in the storyline.

[Tazzmission]

Fredvdp wrote...

It's possible that the protheans weren't a single species but a civilization of multiple races, but that would leave some holes in the storyline.

unless if they do it like a tribe. almost like if one species proves there worthy of the title they could be called a prothean :shrugs:


in fact didnt like old indian tales say a boy needs to hunt in order to become a man or something along those lines?


maybe thats the case here

Modifié par Tazzmission, 27 janvier 2012 - 11:58 .

[Aimi]

Mayhem br wrote...

So now we know that, the prothean is the biotic and that EDI is the tech.
What class are they?

There's a gap at Vanguard that needs filling.

EDI could be Engi or Infiltrator, but she seems more like an Engi type to me. Gut feeling.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Great design. No problem with the EDI concept at all. She still looks very robotic.

There is also very well done in-game lore behind her design. Good stuff

[Vapaa]

mrsph wrote...

EDI is an infiltrator.

EDI is and Engineer, because the core team needs a tech specialist (and her rumored list of powers agree)

[Tazzmission]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Great design. No problem with the EDI concept at all. She still looks very robotic.

There is also very well done in-game lore behind her design. Good stuff

yea i read what was written in the photo. i couldnt make out the botom sadly but i have a nice idea of where the inspiration came from

[Mayhem br]

So, the Prothean is a vanguard?

[moneycashgeorge]

Tazzmission wrote...

Mayhem br wrote...

So now we know that, the prothean is the biotic and that EDI is the tech.
What class are they?

wait where did you hear that?

im not complaining but im just interested to know

EDI would obviously be tech. There is no evidence that Prothy is biotic but it certainly seems likely. He wouldn't be good with modern weapons, so unless he brings is own Soldier seems unlikely. He will have no experience with modern tech. He's armored up so Adept seems unlikely. You are left with Vanguard.

[Vapaa]

Mayhem br wrote...

So, the Prothean is a vanguard?

Either Adept or Vanguard

Based on the leak we think that he has two biotic powers, the rest is yet to be seen.

Modifié par Vapaä, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:07 .

[Cmdr Pwn]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Also, the inhabitants of Ilos who where there before the Protheans could have might as well put up those statues.

Why would they be in the prothean beacon visions then?  Since Vigil says that they had no prior knowledge of the reapers until they invaded.  But the same species of those statues were in the visions as well.  So I don't think that species were there before the protheans, I think they must have existed at the same time.

Modifié par Cmdr Pwn, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:11 .

[Tazzmission]

Cmdr Pwn wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Also, the inhabitants of Ilos who where there before the Protheans could have might as well put up those statues.

Why would they be in the prothean beacon visions then?  Since Vigil says that they had no prior knowledge of the reapers until they invaded.  But the same species of those statues were in the visions as well.

what if ilos was home to those people that the structures portray and when the protheans expanded and built there research facility   both species were wiped out?

maybe the people before the prtheans left those there?

or like another poster said maybe it could be a female version?

and didnt liara say in me1 that the protheans werent the first species?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:12 .

[moneycashgeorge]

Cmdr Pwn wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Also, the inhabitants of Ilos who where there before the Protheans could have might as well put up those statues.

Why would they be in the prothean beacon visions then?  Since Vigil says that they had no prior knowledge of the reapers until they invaded.  But the same species of those statues were in the visions as well.  So I don't think that species were there before the protheans, I think they must have existed at the same time.

Right. This is a retcon. There is no evidence to the contrary.