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[Adugan]

As far as I am aware, the Collectors were a disposable plot device that simply disappear. If they DO come back in ME3, what would their purpose be?

[ItsFreakinJesus]

The Collectors got vaporized and exploded. There's no way for them to come back and there's no need for them to come back. The Reapers are here and can indoctrinate and huskify as they see fit. Having Collectors would be pointless.

[Adugan]

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

The Collectors got vaporized and exploded. There's no way for them to come back and there's no need for them to come back. The Reapers are here and can indoctrinate and huskify as they see fit. Having Collectors would be pointless.

The Collector base CAN be saved, and it can potentially create new Collectors. Its not like the original Protheans survived 50000 years as the Collector drones.

[HiddenKING]

How The Collectors Stole Christmas DLC.

[CodedPrototype]

I'm pretty sure the collector base decision was either to blow it up with a nuke or fry everyone on it with radiation. XD unless collectors are modified cockroaches, i don't see how.

[mybudgee]

Collector corpses for LI in ME3!!

[PnXMarcin1PL]

This guy from concept art is not a collector. It is a Prothean!!

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Luc0s wrote...

Adugan wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

The Collectors got vaporized and exploded. There's no way for them to come back and there's no need for them to come back. The Reapers are here and can indoctrinate and huskify as they see fit. Having Collectors would be pointless.

The Collector base CAN be saved, and it can potentially create new Collectors. Its not like the original Protheans survived 50000 years as the Collector drones.

Yes they did.


Collectors = protheans.


So what you just said doesn't make much sense.

+1 We both know that he was trapped in stasis and can be found on Eden Prime. It's funynm to see people saying it's a collector, especially those who have ME2 logo as their registered game

[Yuoaman]

The Collector's were all mindless drones - without the Collector General and, by extension, Harbinger to control them they probably just wasted away even if they weren't on the base.

[Aimi]

Didn't the Collectors have more cruisers than just that one?

EDI mentions in the DCV mission that she compared the ship's EM signature to "known Collector profiles". Plural there means that there's more than one, right?

[Haasth]

Yuoaman wrote...

The Collector's were all mindless drones - without the Collector General and, by extension, Harbinger to control them they probably just wasted away even if they weren't on the base.

And therefor, if you opted to save the Rachni.. They will join forces to createa Rachni-Collector hybrids! The ultimate hive mind against the Reapers! 

..Maybe not. 

[Yuoaman]

daqs wrote...

Didn't the Collectors have more cruisers than just that one?

EDI mentions in the DCV mission that she compared the ship's EM signature to "known Collector profiles". Plural there means that there's more than one, right?

The fact that we only ever saw one Collector ship lends credence to the idea that there was only ever one - and so few people had encountered it that they couldn't compare profiles easily.

[Aimi]

Yuoaman wrote...

The fact that we only ever saw one Collector ship lends credence to the idea that there was only ever one - and so few people had encountered it that they couldn't compare profiles easily.

In the absence of EDI's dialogue implying that there were others, I'd agree with you. But a "profile" is a collection of information built up over time, not a one-time ID. If there are multiple profiles, that means that Cerberus thinks that there are multiple Collector vessels.

[Haasth]

daqs wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

The fact that we only ever saw one Collector ship lends credence to the idea that there was only ever one - and so few people had encountered it that they couldn't compare profiles easily.

In the absence of EDI's dialogue implying that there were others, I'd agree with you. But a "profile" is a collection of information built up over time, not a one-time ID. If there are multiple profiles, that means that Cerberus thinks that there are multiple Collector vessels.

Couldn't this profile have been made up out of the various encounters with the ship? Most of the time they only got some signature and silhouette, eventually those various bits of data could be considered a profile perhaps? 

[Bogsnot1]

The same purpose as in ME2. A small strike force for distraction, and indoctrinating behind enemy lines.

[Aimi]

Haasth wrote...

Couldn't this profile have been made up out of the various encounters with the ship? Most of the time they only got some signature and silhouette, eventually those various bits of data could be considered a profile perhaps? 

Yes, but she specifically mentions multiple profiles:

"Shepard, I have compared the ship's EM signature to known Collector profiles. It is the vessel you encountered on Horizon."

So, off of limited contacts, they have assembled more than one profile.

[Dean_the_Young]

daqs wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

The fact that we only ever saw one Collector ship lends credence to the idea that there was only ever one - and so few people had encountered it that they couldn't compare profiles easily.

In the absence of EDI's dialogue implying that there were others, I'd agree with you. But a "profile" is a collection of information built up over time, not a one-time ID. If there are multiple profiles, that means that Cerberus thinks that there are multiple Collector vessels.

Or that there are multiple, not necessarily clear, encounters with a single force.

Of course, there's also the possibility that any other ships are of entirely different scales than the Collector Cruiser itself. Like, passenger shuttles for making the deals.

[Aimi]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Or that there are multiple, not necessarily clear, encounters with a single force.

Of course, there's also the possibility that any other ships are of entirely different scales than the Collector Cruiser itself. Like, passenger shuttles for making the deals.

If it's the first one of these, they're using really odd word choice. If it's the second one, why bother comparing anything at all?

[Dean_the_Young]

daqs wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Or that there are multiple, not necessarily clear, encounters with a single force.

Of course, there's also the possibility that any other ships are of entirely different scales than the Collector Cruiser itself. Like, passenger shuttles for making the deals.

If it's the first one of these, they're using really odd word choice.

From a professional? Maybe. From a lay-man? 

Don't forget, daqs, that you have more in-depth knowledge in a number of fields than the writers of Bioware. You can't simply apply your advanced diction to them and expect them to always meet more professional standards.

Personally I'm still agog that they think the whole 'high ranking officers lead fire teams' is impressive. I have to remind myself that 'Sergent Bad Ass' doesn't have the same marketing appeal for an RPG as 'Commander,' no matter how little Shepard reflects such a rank.

If it's the second one, why bother comparing anything at all?

Completeness sake?

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 27 janvier 2012 - 11:42 .

[Aimi]

Fair enough. I guess it's one of those things that I'd ask about if I had a Twitter.

[Dean_the_Young]

daqs wrote...

Fair enough. I guess it's one of those things that I'd ask about if I had a Twitter.

That you don't raises my respect for your lack of ego-centricism. :thumbsup:


I think the biggest indication/proof that there was only one Collector cruiser is that only one is destroyed in the Suicide Mission, and yet the Collectors are declared vanquished. Nowhere else is even the possibility of other Collector Cruisers raised, no side material has made any plot attemt at dealing with another Cruiser, and the Cruiser itself is almost treated as a character, appearing in every instance of a Cruiser.


I'd be willing to bet that the author intent was something like EDI going 'Shepard, I checked to see if this ship was like the others we ran into, but in fact it's the same one.' Shock.

That it's the same from Horizon is obvious, but double shock is that it's the same from the original Normandy. Multiple encounters to compare to, especially if we factor in more colony abductions with scant evidence.

[TCBC_Freak]

Unless ever Collector in the whole galaxy was there at the base, and they only had a single ship (which is unlikely since EDI says she compares the derelict Collector ship to other known profiles indicating there is more than one) or all there ships were at the base; then yes there should still be some collectors out there. However, since it is possible that all the Collectors could have been at the base, and even if they had more than one ship their other ships could have been there they may be all gone.

[Extort]

 Pointless, harbie said he released control of the general. they would have no leadership and i imagine those things just standing there doing nothing