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[AdmiralCheez]

Terror_K wrote...

It's not really bad per se, just inconsistent. Might not have been so bad if they'd gone with a rounder, upper head like all the statues and visions depicted the Protheans instead of that obviously Collector-inspirted shape. So we've either got a silly ret-con on our hands, or there's some reason for the inconsistency. I'd be interested in hearing what that is.

Even with a reason, it'd still be a "soft" retcon, as I like to call them.

But the design is cool, and the "Collectorness" of it is an interesting angle.  So I'm willing to forgive them.

[ObserverStatus]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

It's not really bad per se, just inconsistent. Might not have been so bad if they'd gone with a rounder, upper head like all the statues and visions depicted the Protheans instead of that obviously Collector-inspirted shape. So we've either got a silly ret-con on our hands, or there's some reason for the inconsistency. I'd be interested in hearing what that is.

Even with a reason, it'd still be a "soft" retcon, as I like to call them.

But the design is cool, and the "Collectorness" of it is an interesting angle.  So I'm willing to forgive them.

Bit strange though, it looks like a cross between a collector and some kind of a fish.

[Luxure]

I don't think I understand this very well, but have there been any news on EDI "body" ?

Bobo, that Princess Celestia gif is... horrifying, scares the living bronyness out of me.

Modifié par Luxure, 29 janvier 2012 - 07:22 .

[Terror_K]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

It's not really bad per se, just inconsistent. Might not have been so bad if they'd gone with a rounder, upper head like all the statues and visions depicted the Protheans instead of that obviously Collector-inspirted shape. So we've either got a silly ret-con on our hands, or there's some reason for the inconsistency. I'd be interested in hearing what that is.

Even with a reason, it'd still be a "soft" retcon, as I like to call them.

But the design is cool, and the "Collectorness" of it is an interesting angle.  So I'm willing to forgive them.

Sorry, but it's the kind of thing that rings alarms bells for me. I don't want to see Mass Effect on a similar track to it's sister IP where the darkspawn, elves and qunari all got stupid retconned designs for the hell of it.

Also, "willing to forgive them" is a sore point for me. In ME2 there were far too many small annoying things that I could have forgiven had they been more isolated and rare, but infortunately they all stung me like a swarm of bees and became so annoying I hardly forgave any of them. And ME3 has already got at least two strikes against it before it's even out.

Modifié par Terror_K, 29 janvier 2012 - 07:26 .

[ObserverStatus]

Luxure wrote...
I don't think I understand this very well, but have there been any news on EDI "body" ?
Bobo, that Princess Celestia gif is... horrifying, scares the living bronyness out of me.

Hmm, you don't like my avatar? That's a shame, but tell me, do you like bananas?

[G3rman]

Terror_K wrote...

Awesomness wrote...

The Prothean Tells you in the game that they weren't the original inhabitants of Ilos so the statues maybe of the original race and mistaken for Protheans.

What about the visions from the beacons?

Visions weren't all that clear, not to mention it doesn't deny the fact there could have been multiple species in the Prothean Empire.

[Luxure]

Undoubtely I do, your Highness.

[Terror_K]

G3rman wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

Awesomness wrote...

The Prothean Tells you in the game that they weren't the original inhabitants of Ilos so the statues maybe of the original race and mistaken for Protheans.

What about the visions from the beacons?

Visions weren't all that clear, not to mention it doesn't deny the fact there could have been multiple species in the Prothean Empire.

They were clear enough to see a distinctly smoother, more domed and narrow upper head in pretty much every case. Also, I do believe the Protheans were a species and not a collection of various species.

[Aimi]

Terror_K wrote...

Also, I do believe the Protheans were a species and not a collection of various species.

That's untenable, because the figures from the visions were different enough from each other to strongly suggest that there were multiple species involved.

[GnusmasTHX]

Not really, all of them looked the same and resembled the statues on Ilos, then transforming into Collector's.

Also some devs twitter already said Protheans were one species.

[ediskrad327]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Not really, all of them looked the same and resembled the statues on Ilos, then transforming into Collector's.

Also some devs twitter already said Protheans were one species.

sure and Garrus isn't Archangel

[ObserverStatus]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Not really, all of them looked the same and resembled the statues on Ilos, then transforming into Collector's.

Also some devs twitter already said Protheans were one species.

Also, the codex said something along the lines of  "50,000 years ago, protheans were the only spacefaring species."

Modifié par bobobo878, 29 janvier 2012 - 07:46 .

[Terror_K]

To be frank, I'm much happier with the look of EDI there than I would be had they made her a hologram and just done a half-assed Cortana rip-off. That would have been too much.

I mean, it's had enough that half the new Reaper husk enemies are named after Halo enemies or vehicles.

[Lenimph]

I find her new look less vulgar then old talking lady bits EDI

[Tazzmission]

Lenimph wrote...

I find her new look less vulgar then old talking lady bits EDI

you know im not complaing but i was really suprised that fox news didnt make a fuss about that like they did with the whole alien side boob deal back in 2007.

[Heimdall]

It doesn't bother me, tough I'm curious as to how exactly that'll look in game.

[Someone With Mass]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Even with a reason, it'd still be a "soft" retcon, as I like to call them.

But the design is cool, and the "Collectorness" of it is an interesting angle.  So I'm willing to forgive them.

It's not really a retcon either, since there's nothing that suggests that those figures in the visions are Protheans.

[Tazzmission]

Someone With Mass wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Even with a reason, it'd still be a "soft" retcon, as I like to call them.

But the design is cool, and the "Collectorness" of it is an interesting angle.  So I'm willing to forgive them.

It's not really a retcon either, since there's nothing that suggests that those figures in the visions are Protheans.

actually i made a post on that in the prothean thread all i will say is answers will be revealed in me3 on it

[Terror_K]

Someone With Mass wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Even with a reason, it'd still be a "soft" retcon, as I like to call them.

But the design is cool, and the "Collectorness" of it is an interesting angle.  So I'm willing to forgive them.

It's not really a retcon either, since there's nothing that suggests that those figures in the visions are Protheans.

I think if nothing else, the vision Shepard gets from the N7 Mission beacon that has the image of the Collector mimicking an almost identical shot of a Prothean from an ME1 vision is a dead give away.

[Someone With Mass]

Terror_K wrote...
I think if nothing else, the vision Shepard gets from the N7 Mission beacon that has the image of the Collector mimicking an almost identical shot of a Prothean from an ME1 vision is a dead give away.

Still nothing that implies they are Protheans besides the origin of the vision, which isn't much, considering that the vision could contain any kind of message.

Even Shepard isn't sure about the details.

Hell, those statues/creatures in the ME1 visions could have might as well just been indicators to tell the viewer that it's about Ilos.

[BobTheAndroid]

Let's face it the only reason Bioware "retconned" the Protheans is because no one would want to romance it if it looked like Davy Jones.
Now every time I will look at that guy I will be reminded about those bland bug people. They where such an uninteresting enemy.

[Terror_K]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Terror_K wrote...
I think if nothing else, the vision Shepard gets from the N7 Mission beacon that has the image of the Collector mimicking an almost identical shot of a Prothean from an ME1 vision is a dead give away.

Still nothing that implies they are Protheans besides the origin of the vision, which isn't much, considering that the vision could contain any kind of message.

Even Shepard isn't sure about the details.

Hell, those statues/creatures in the ME1 visions could have might as well just been indicators to tell the viewer that it's about Ilos.

Riiiiiight...

So when you have the "Protheans" as we've seen them before in a vision doing the exact same pose as a Collector in a later vision, we aren't supposed to be lead to believe that these are the Protheans that became The Collectors? You're essentially saying the whole point of that near-on identical vision that was pretty much there to directly say "The Protheans became The Collectors" is complete bullpies.

It's pretty clear that BioWare has either decided to retcon the Protheans' physical appearance entirely or intended to mislead us from the start and make us really think this species who are, as the MEWiki puts it, " humanoid in appearance, but with extremely long tentacle-like fingers, toes and "beards"" are Protheans when they're not. But if that's the case, the beacon visions don't really make much sense any more at all.

[Arppis]

Tazzmission wrote...

i think people are just over reacting

They always are, it seems.