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mrsph wrote...

The funny part is I love Mass Effect for it's b-movie nature. I just dislike how they are changing characters to make them "sexier" when it is unneeded. As much as I disliked Miranda and Samara's outfits for instance, I couldn't really complain much about it. Because Jacob and Thane were just as sexualized. But when you start taking established characters (Ashley, EDI) and turning them into something else then I start getting concerned.


Well, the B-movie thing. At some point it just went to exploitation. Plot of the movie could be whatever, the basic idea was "Come to see boobies!, come, see ****ing!"

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Make a sci-fi porno Bioware. We know you want to

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Mass Effect became a porno so gradually no one even noticed.

Modifié par mrsph, 27 janvier 2012 - 02:40 .


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I can safely say that in all my time playing Mass Effect 2 never at any point did I look at EDI and think to myself:
"This computer AI would be perfect if only it had some ******!"

Seriously, I don't recall ever asking for this. And if at any point in the past I did ask for something similar to this I'm going to have to invent a time machine and punch myself in the past. This is just... words don't do justice the level of idiocy for a plot twist like this. EDI was the AI for the Normandy, that was her job and she was good at it, she didn't need to be anything else.
I just really want to know the mindset behind the dev's decision to do this.

I also want to read the mind of Seth Green as he acts out the 'romance' dialogues, no doubt thinking that the movie 'Sex Drive' is now the second most humiliating thing he's ever done as an actor.

And yes, Bioware is sitting firmly in the time out chair for me in regards to this whole 'sexualization' thing. 'EDI's body needed to be sexy' as the first descriptive line is quick to tell me (which is odd because the word I would have used is 'nonexistent') really puts me off because after the Ashley debacle EDI was essentially the only female character left in all of Mass Effect who wasn't 'sexy' in some way or another and for some reason Bioware felt they needed to change that. Just like they felt the need to update the already sexy Ashley Williams into a spandex wearing supermodel (I admit, they have done a few things to fix that up, proper suit of armor, optional helmet and I think the tan in her skin looks like it's returned somewhat) even though again I don't remember ever asking for Ashley to be made 'hotter'. I didn't wait almost two years to see her return only for my Shepard to suddenly say:
"Hey Ash, I forgive you for Horizon and everything and avoided any other romance for two years but unfortunatley your breasts aren't big enough so obviously I have no further interest in you."

This seems to be the wierd new pattern for Bioware, fixing things that aren't broken and redesigning female characters to become 'super sexy' even though there was never a need (or demand) to do so. They realize that there exists a single character with a XX chromosome arrangement who doesn't have the look of a supermodel and they feel they just have to fix it.
I look forward to seeing their reimagining of the Rachni Queen.

Look Bioware have made some great and very strong fully well rounded female characters. I love Ashley, Jack, Tali, Samara and even EDI. I just kind of wish some degree of the diginified way these ladies are written could carry on to the visual design from time to time.

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Confused-Shepard wrote...

I will say this though despite the fact I like EDI's new look...

I dare Bioware to make a female character with half her face burnt off who struts around in heavy armor
A female Phantom of the Opera if you will. 
Or hell a male charecter that is like that. Oh wait.... Vega... hahahaha!

This needs to happen.

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nitefyre410 wrote...
Mass Effect is not entertainment it is serious buisness that will change the world.   ;)

Even fiction should have standards.

Modifié par lucidfox, 27 janvier 2012 - 02:46 .


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No, but see. We should make the rachni queen sexy because it would be cool. Maybe have her get in a little romance with Grunt.

Modifié par mrsph, 27 janvier 2012 - 02:50 .


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So, where's this image? I went through the whole thread trying to find it, I hate not being in the loop, I never am. :(

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mrsph wrote...

No, but see. We should make the rachni queen sexy because it would be cool. Maybe have her get in a little romance with Grunt.


At this point, I don't know if it's good to give them even more great ideas.

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ZLurps wrote...

mrsph wrote...

No, but see. We should make the rachni queen sexy because it would be cool. Maybe have her get in a little romance with Grunt.


At this point, I don't know if it's good to give them even more great ideas.


At this point, I might as well come up with a way to get the BSN to have a mass suicide.  Save the gaming community some face value.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

One other question that no one seems to have bothered asking:
How exactly was her blue box removed from the Normandy's AI core and placed in a humanoid body? How big is the darn thing, anyway?


She's still the Normandy and in the Normandy but she can also take over the fembot body...don't forget her multitasking abilities.

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marstor05 wrote...

am I the only one that thinks its a brilliant idea to give EDI a body?


You are not alone. i think it is a great idea. More stupid and crazy as people seems to be thinking of the idea, was making Shepard live again. I think I can handle robots like Andromeda betterly than resurrection. But still, people can give their opinions, although founding their decision on getting the game or not in just stupid picture seems kind of awkward. Just saying it.

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incinerator950 wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

mrsph wrote...

No, but see. We should make the rachni queen sexy because it would be cool. Maybe have her get in a little romance with Grunt.


At this point, I don't know if it's good to give them even more great ideas.


At this point, I might as well come up with a way to get the BSN to have a mass suicide.  Save the gaming community some face value.


where's the red button when you need it.

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lucidfox wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
Mass Effect is not entertainment it is serious buisness that will change the world.   ;)

Even fiction should have standards.

 


and once again. You  are completely missing the point.   


There's 1984 and then  there's Star Wars..



If you don't  like it thats fine... but trying to make it out to be more than what it is and  what this is nothing more than  you personally not liking it.


 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 27 janvier 2012 - 03:00 .


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Bah.. I couldn't resist this spoiler! All I have to say is... I like her! I guess I'm the only one though. :whistle:

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Vapaä wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

One other question that no one seems to have bothered asking:
How exactly was her blue box removed from the Normandy's AI core and placed in a humanoid body? How big is the darn thing, anyway?


She's still the Normandy and in the Normandy but she can also take over the fembot body...don't forget her multitasking abilities.

Oh. So it's similar to how she got her hologram avatar to appear on the Collector ship? Or what? I am so confused right now, I thought AIs couldn't be transmitted across networks?

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ZLurps wrote...


At this point, I don't know if it's good to give them even more great ideas.


At this point I doubt any of my horrible ideas can beat what Bioware has come up with.

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Well Bioware did mention she was going to be Mass Effect version of Maria from Metropolis
But will they be able to reach that level of intellectual storytelling... ahahahahahaha! no!

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Didn't see image in thread. Here:

Image IPB

For me, it looks terrible.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

Vapaä wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

One other question that no one seems to have bothered asking:
How exactly was her blue box removed from the Normandy's AI core and placed in a humanoid body? How big is the darn thing, anyway?


She's still the Normandy and in the Normandy but she can also take over the fembot body...don't forget her multitasking abilities.

Oh. So it's similar to how she got her hologram avatar to appear on the Collector ship? Or what? I am so confused right now, I thought AIs couldn't be transmitted across networks?


think of it as a remote controlled body while her real body is still the normandy. in the pic she's sitting down besides joker with tubes attached to the back of her head, i'd wager that's where she recharges after each mission or does maintenance. 

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Confused-Shepard wrote...

Well Bioware did mention she was going to be Mass Effect version of Maria from Metropolis
But will they be able to reach that level of intellectual storytelling... ahahahahahaha! no!

 


Exactly but It would be amusing to see them try ... though  Mordin's, Leigons and Samara's loyality missions were good shots 

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The funny thing is the third one to the top right actually looks pretty cool.

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mrsph wrote...

ZLurps wrote...


At this point, I don't know if it's good to give them even more great ideas.


At this point I doubt any of my horrible ideas can beat what Bioware has come up with.


I had this one where Shepard would flying on similar pad Saren used in Virmire, or actually Joker is dragging Shepard flying pad with Normandy and then Shepard jumps the Thresher maw.

Try to beat that one Walters!

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ZLurps wrote...

mrsph wrote...

ZLurps wrote...


At this point, I don't know if it's good to give them even more great ideas.


At this point I doubt any of my horrible ideas can beat what Bioware has come up with.


I had this one where Shepard would flying on similar pad Saren used in Virmire, or actually Joker is dragging Shepard flying pad with Normandy and then Shepard jumps the Thresher maw.

Try to beat that one Walters!

 


Challenge Accepted. 


A Mass Effect  crossover with Transformers. 

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Bioware fans are literally the worst fans I have ever come across.

Bioware, this is good I'm glad you did this with EDI. Don't listen to the 8 people who have made a million posts in here, these are the people stifling your creativity and holding you back from creating the game you want to create.

If people don't like it then they don't need to buy the game.