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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

oooo  touche' = )
 
But if he's getting shot at and near Rez time while you're lining up a masterpiece headshot, don't blame the Vanguard for getting impatient.Image IPBImage IPB


Theoretically, if the Infiltrator is good enough, the Vanguard will go to melee their Charged opponent, only to find that he's been shot in the head. :devil::innocent:

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

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Soldiers are the staple unit of mass effects galaxy, because there nost effective at taking down enemies. I agree vanguards are very usefull, but they should stick to helping the soldiers as soldiers dont HELP vanguards, vanguards HELP soldiers. And as I said I have no problem with other classes, my second playthrough will be a vanguard.


Soldiers always help the Vanguard.  Vanguards are always first, they're the ones that get the support/help.  I always pick a soldier to back me up in my playthroughs.

Vanguards can clear a room before their squad even gets there.  They're the fastest killers and it requires the most moment-to-moment skill to effectively play as them.

They dominate anywhere... and everywhere... first.

Vanguard for Life.Image IPB

Bull****, first of all vanguards are SPECIALISTS which means they choose a specific field for a specific job, soldiers are all rounders, and as such they get support, they aren't THE SUPPORT for vanguards. You really should get your facts right. And by the way I don't have a problem with vanguards, for the most part, there pretty cool. But people like you ruin it for the rest.

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

oooo  touche' = )
 
But if he's getting shot at and near Rez time while you're lining up a masterpiece headshot, don't blame the Vanguard for getting impatient.Image IPBImage IPB


Theoretically, if the Infiltrator is good enough, the Vanguard will go to melee their Charged opponent, only to find that he's been shot in the head. :devil::innocent:

Yes, Sky. That is true. <_<:D

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SykoWolf wrote...
Bull****, first of all vanguards are SPECIALISTS which means they choose a specific field for a specific job, soldiers are all rounders, and as such they get support, they aren't THE SUPPORT for vanguards. You really should get your facts right. And by the way I don't have a problem with vanguards, for the most part, there pretty cool. But people like you ruin it for the rest.


All rounders generally are support for everybody... namely my VanguardImage IPB.  Specialists can offer an additional/special kind of support.  But Vanguards are the frontrunners, the leaders of an assault (hence the name)... so they get the back up in a team (if they're really playing as a team).

Those facts are right... but here's another one:  No class is above supporting another class.  That's high-minded talk that will "ruin it for the rest," not the factual statements I present.Image IPB  


Would you really not support a Vanguard on the front lines because they're a Vanguard?

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

oooo  touche' = )
 
But if he's getting shot at and near Rez time while you're lining up a masterpiece headshot, don't blame the Vanguard for getting impatient.Image IPBImage IPB


Theoretically, if the Infiltrator is good enough, the Vanguard will go to melee their Charged opponent, only to find that he's been shot in the head. :devil::innocent:


FTW, and I say do it... I'm still gonna charge into that suckerImage IPB

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 29 janvier 2012 - 12:50 .


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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...
Bull****, first of all vanguards are SPECIALISTS which means they choose a specific field for a specific job, soldiers are all rounders, and as such they get support, they aren't THE SUPPORT for vanguards. You really should get your facts right. And by the way I don't have a problem with vanguards, for the most part, there pretty cool. But people like you ruin it for the rest.


All rounders generally are support for everybody... namely my VanguardImage IPB.  Specialists can offer an additional/special kind of support.  But Vanguards are the frontrunners, the leaders of an assault (hence the name)... so they get the back up in a team (if they're really playing as a team).

Those facts are right... but here's another one:  No class is above supporting another class.  That's high-minded talk that will "ruin it for the rest," not the factual statements I present.Image IPB  


Would you really not support a Vanguard on the front lines because they're a Vanguard?


Now y'all, play nice.

Vanguards are aptly named, but the Soldier is the class that is built for true Blitzkreig. You need a building/corridor/battlefield cleared out? Soldiers are built for that, not that Vanguards can't, but that's where a Soldier shines. Vanguards will just start at the back of the room first and move forward instead of starting at the front and moving backward. Lol.

Each class, if played correctly, can mesh with all the other classes to create a fantastic cooperative battle strategy. This is probably the single most exciting prospect when I think about playing ME MP.

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...
Bull****, first of all vanguards are SPECIALISTS which means they choose a specific field for a specific job, soldiers are all rounders, and as such they get support, they aren't THE SUPPORT for vanguards. You really should get your facts right. And by the way I don't have a problem with vanguards, for the most part, there pretty cool. But people like you ruin it for the rest.


All rounders generally are support for everybody... namely my VanguardImage IPB.  Specialists can offer an additional/special kind of support.  But Vanguards are the frontrunners, the leaders of an assault (hence the name)... so they get the back up in a team (if they're really playing as a team).

Those facts are right... but here's another one:  No class is above supporting another class.  That's high-minded talk that will "ruin it for the rest," not the factual statements I present.Image IPB  


Would you really not support a Vanguard on the front lines because they're a Vanguard?

Oh my god your ignorant. First of all, there aren't as many biotics as you think, duh. That's why soldiers are the frontline troops. True In a major attack vanguards are sent in to thin the ranks, but that doesn't make them better then soldiers, infact it makes them meat shields. Also as I have said, I have no problem with vanguards...........just vanguards like you who get FACTS WRONG!!!

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I thought I was playing nice :P All in good fun though.

But yeah, Soldiers are awesome... they've got a gun for every situation. I always take one with me (have since Mass Effect 1).

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SykoWolf wrote...
Oh my god your ignorant. First of all, there aren't as many biotics as you think, duh. That's why soldiers are the frontline troops. True In a major attack vanguards are sent in to thin the ranks, but that doesn't make them better then soldiers, infact it makes them meat shields. Also as I have said, I have no problem with vanguards...........just vanguards like you who get FACTS WRONG!!!


Soldiers are infantry, not necessarily the front line.  Cool if you play that way though.  No one said a Vanguard was "better" than a soldier.  They're just designed to be the speedy killer class.  I'd give the Sentinnel the title of "meat shield," they can take it.

And nothing I've said thusfar has been wrong... just sayin'Image IPB




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What does "there aren't as many biotics as you think, duh" have to do with anything?

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 29 janvier 2012 - 01:05 .


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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

I thought I was playing nice :P All in good fun though.

But yeah, Soldiers are awesome... they've got a gun for every situation. I always take one with me (have since Mass Effect 1).

Man I can get pissed, let's agree that I'm abit of a SYKO, lol and that both soldiers and vanguards rule?

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SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

I thought I was playing nice :P All in good fun though.

But yeah, Soldiers are awesome... they've got a gun for every situation. I always take one with me (have since Mass Effect 1).

Man I can get pissed, let's agree that I'm abit of a SYKO, lol and that both soldiers and vanguards rule?


You can get pissed... and you can regain control.  Kudos.Image IPB

And yes, both Soldiers and Vanguards are awesome.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 29 janvier 2012 - 01:08 .


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SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...
Bull****, first of all vanguards are SPECIALISTS which means they choose a specific field for a specific job, soldiers are all rounders, and as such they get support, they aren't THE SUPPORT for vanguards. You really should get your facts right. And by the way I don't have a problem with vanguards, for the most part, there pretty cool. But people like you ruin it for the rest.


All rounders generally are support for everybody... namely my VanguardImage IPB.  Specialists can offer an additional/special kind of support.  But Vanguards are the frontrunners, the leaders of an assault (hence the name)... so they get the back up in a team (if they're really playing as a team).

Those facts are right... but here's another one:  No class is above supporting another class.  That's high-minded talk that will "ruin it for the rest," not the factual statements I present.Image IPB  


Would you really not support a Vanguard on the front lines because they're a Vanguard?

Oh my god your ignorant. First of all, there aren't as many biotics as you think, duh. That's why soldiers are the frontline troops. True In a major attack vanguards are sent in to thin the ranks, but that doesn't make them better then soldiers, infact it makes them meat shields. Also as I have said, I have no problem with vanguards...........just vanguards like you who get FACTS WRONG!!!


That's assuming human biotics. You can play as many races in ME MP, including asari and drell, most of whom in those species are biotic.

I think of it this way: Vanguards are like the US Marines...sent in to strike hard and fast. The Soldiers are like the US Army, who follow up and clear out the bulk of the forces so that you can occupy and hold the position. Each are dependent on the other to do their part and get the job done.

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

I thought I was playing nice :P All in good fun though.

But yeah, Soldiers are awesome... they've got a gun for every situation. I always take one with me (have since Mass Effect 1).

Man I can get pissed, let's agree that I'm abit of a SYKO, lol and that both soldiers and vanguards rule?


You can get pissed... and you can regain control.  Kudos.Image IPB

And yes, both Soldiers and Vanguards are awesome.

Yes I get pissed then finally gain control.......just like vanguards!

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SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

I thought I was playing nice :P All in good fun though.

But yeah, Soldiers are awesome... they've got a gun for every situation. I always take one with me (have since Mass Effect 1).

Man I can get pissed, let's agree that I'm abit of a SYKO, lol and that both soldiers and vanguards rule?


You can get pissed... and you can regain control.  Kudos.Image IPB

And yes, both Soldiers and Vanguards are awesome.

Yes I get pissed then finally gain control.......just like vanguards!


Vanguards don't get pissed, they deliver "emotional content" to their enemies.Image IPB  Getting pissed is the strength of a solider.. likely what triggers their adrenaline rush.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 29 janvier 2012 - 01:13 .


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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

I thought I was playing nice :P All in good fun though.

But yeah, Soldiers are awesome... they've got a gun for every situation. I always take one with me (have since Mass Effect 1).

Man I can get pissed, let's agree that I'm abit of a SYKO, lol and that both soldiers and vanguards rule?


You can get pissed... and you can regain control.  Kudos.Image IPB

And yes, both Soldiers and Vanguards are awesome.

Yes I get pissed then finally gain control.......just like vanguards!


Vanguards don't get pissed, they deliver "emotional content" to their enemies.Image IPB  Getting pissed is the strength of a solider.. likely what triggers their adrenaline rush.

Nope, soldiers adrenaline rush comes from a thermice of special coffee they keep under there armour, which is injected into there veins........ Trust me its true :)

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SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

I thought I was playing nice :P All in good fun though.

But yeah, Soldiers are awesome... they've got a gun for every situation. I always take one with me (have since Mass Effect 1).

Man I can get pissed, let's agree that I'm abit of a SYKO, lol and that both soldiers and vanguards rule?


You can get pissed... and you can regain control.  Kudos.Image IPB

And yes, both Soldiers and Vanguards are awesome.

Yes I get pissed then finally gain control.......just like vanguards!


Vanguards don't get pissed, they deliver "emotional content" to their enemies.Image IPB  Getting pissed is the strength of a solider.. likely what triggers their adrenaline rush.

Nope, soldiers adrenaline rush comes from a thermice of special coffee they keep under there armour, which is injected into there veins........ Trust me its true :)


AhhhhhhhhImage IPB... well... uh... getting pissed is still good for them though.Image IPB

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

AhhhhhhhhImage IPB... well... uh... getting pissed is still good for them though.Image IPB

Being australian kinda helps too........we have a track record of being pissed. (Australians will probly get the joke there)

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

oooo  touche' = )
 
But if he's getting shot at and near Rez time while you're lining up a masterpiece headshot, don't blame the Vanguard for getting impatient.Image IPBImage IPB


Theoretically, if the Infiltrator is good enough, the Vanguard will go to melee their Charged opponent, only to find that he's been shot in the head. :devil::innocent:


So basically, multiplayer will just be Vanguards and Infiltrators trolling each other?:lol:

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Yes multiplayer will be infiltrators and vanguards trolling each other, while soldiers watch and eat popcorn.

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SykoWolf wrote...

Yes multiplayer will be infiltrators and vanguards trolling each other, while soldiers watch and eat popcorn.


It will be glorious. *Puts on shadez* B)

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...

Yes multiplayer will be infiltrators and vanguards trolling each other, while soldiers watch and eat popcorn.


It will be glorious. *Puts on shadez* B)

We musn't forget the little guys....adepts and engineers will also be there in the battle field, you just won't see them, they will be drinking and being merry, but you won't see them,they will be fornicati....wooops, kidding, the fact is, you. Won't. See. Them. (Which is sad)

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You won't see me because you'll be charging off in all directions, while I'm running to catch up, tossing out combat drones, building turrets and throwing cryo blasts in an effort to keep you alive and charging. Yeah, engineer.

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You won't see me because you'll be charging off in all directions, while I'm running to catch up, tossing out combat drones, building turrets and throwing cryo blasts in an effort to keep you alive and charging. Yeah, engineer.

(I'm a soldier) I just said we wouldn't see you, not that you would be any less of a badass.

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

SykoWolf wrote...
Bull****, first of all vanguards are SPECIALISTS which means they choose a specific field for a specific job, soldiers are all rounders, and as such they get support, they aren't THE SUPPORT for vanguards. You really should get your facts right. And by the way I don't have a problem with vanguards, for the most part, there pretty cool. But people like you ruin it for the rest.


All rounders generally are support for everybody... namely my VanguardImage IPB.  Specialists can offer an additional/special kind of support.  But Vanguards are the frontrunners, the leaders of an assault (hence the name)... so they get the back up in a team (if they're really playing as a team).

Those facts are right... but here's another one:  No class is above supporting another class.  That's high-minded talk that will "ruin it for the rest," not the factual statements I present.Image IPB  


Would you really not support a Vanguard on the front lines because they're a Vanguard?


Now y'all, play nice.

Vanguards are aptly named, but the Soldier is the class that is built for true Blitzkreig. You need a building/corridor/battlefield cleared out? Soldiers are built for that, not that Vanguards can't, but that's where a Soldier shines. Vanguards will just start at the back of the room first and move forward instead of starting at the front and moving backward. Lol.

Each class, if played correctly, can mesh with all the other classes to create a fantastic cooperative battle strategy. This is probably the single most exciting prospect when I think about playing ME MP.

Not really, it's situational. It depends on the environment i.e. if it's wide or tight and cover placement, and enemy tipes and their behavior and current placement. If there's proper cover and weak enemy on the front, I get to it, kill with no problems, get everyone's attention in me, get to cover waiting for charge cooldown and then start to work the backs.

Modifié par RyuGuitarFreak, 29 janvier 2012 - 02:28 .


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I can't wait just for the demo, let alone the full game. Let us have it now. :wizard: