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"So Your Friend is a Vanguard" - BioWare Blog by Patrick Weekes and Sylvia Feketekuty


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DId I see a biotic strafe in that vid? I hope Shepard can do that.

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Wynne wrote...

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Watched the trailer again......gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! It all looks SO good!

Torn between Infiltrator or Vanguard....... do I want to scope and drop? OR chaaaaaaaaarge?

God... decisons.....

I know, right? Hard decision! I *love* both...


Scope dork and charging nut. I am both. ;D

Honestly, Vanguard is the only biotic class I like.

@jreezy - What is this "biotic strafe" you speak of? I wanna know more...

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Don't like the adept or sentinel? Adepts are great CCers and Sentinels can blow things up with tech/biotics combined.....

ooo.... I should replay ME1 now.....yessssssssss. 6 Vanguard runs and 0 sentinel... hmmm

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@jreezy - What is this "biotic strafe" you speak of? I wanna know more...

That biotic side-step the vanguard Asari did at about 56 seconds in the trailer.

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Though, I will probably start out with my "comfortable class," Infiltrator, so I can get used to this multiplayer thing. I know for sure I'm going to be playing with at least one friend who is a Vanguard, so I think I'm going to go, "Hey, hey Peps! Go charge that annoying n00b out of cover so I can git 'im!" *Lines up a headshot, but Vanguard takes him out with biotic PAWNCH* "Dangit..."

Awww, Sky! You know me so well! ;)

I loved this article. Being a Vanguard player myself, it was hilarious to read some of the examples thinking, "Yeah...definitely guilty of that." XD I can't wait to wreck shop in MP!

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Yeah that Biotic Strafe side-step thing is the Asari's replacement for dodge. I'm assuming its an asari thing in general, probably Vanguard/Adept both do that. Doubt Shepard can in single player, he probably still rolls. But I'd love to have a biotic... shift thing like that instead of dodge. It's really snazzy.

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Vanguard seems alittle overpowered.

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Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

@CDR

Don't like the adept or sentinel? Adepts are great CCers and Sentinels can blow things up with tech/biotics combined.....

ooo.... I should replay ME1 now.....yessssssssss. 6 Vanguard runs and 0 sentinel... hmmm


I'm just not a fan of using biotics in general. The only times I take biotic squaddies with me are when I'm going to be dealing with Collectors. At least in ME2. Biotic squaddies are basically useless against the three major merc groups (With the exception of Eclipse Vanguards, but they're not that tough to take down) and mechs, which are prominent in the vast majority of the game. In ME1 they were more useful, but I still prefered combat and tech powers over biotics. 

I have a Sentinel, but I'm getting really tired of her only being able to use a heavy pistol and SMG. At least the powers I had in ME1 made up for the fact I could only use the dang pistol. Adepts and Sentinels are very power-focused, and I don't like that (and Engineers, too, but I like their powers better so I like playing them more than Adept/Sentinel). With my AR-capable Infiltrator, I regularly switch between guns, and not having that flexibility drives me crazy. I guess I just need my guns. Lol.

@ jreezy - OH, okay. I'm a pilot, so when I see the word "strafe," I automatically think bullets. XD But yeah, that is super cool.

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@ jreezy - OH, okay. I'm a pilot, so when I see the word "strafe," I automatically think bullets. XD But yeah, that is super cool.

A pilot? Nice, just like Joker. Make sure your aircraft is equipped with its own A.I. It could come in handy

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Of course it was! His nickname isn't "Sir Charge-A-Lot" for nothing. XD

Can't wait to play MP as a Vanguard...I'm gonna be all over the place. :devil:


I has such a sad you play on PS3 right now. :crying:

Me too. I wanna play MP with you! D:

@vigg you're playing as a vangauard too?

Yep, for the most part. I'm best as a Vanguard.

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I just read that blog post... utterly hilarious. I have been there in single-player, I can't wait to try it in multi-player!

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Scope dork and charging nut. I am both. ;D

Honestly, Vanguard is the only biotic class I like.

*high-five* Those are pretty much my favorites, too! In both ME1 & 2. :) I'm fond of Sentinel, too, though. Great for Insanity runs with Assault Armor. Want to never run out of shields? Sentinel has you covered!

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Am I excited? Hell yeah!

This was a thread that was done 9 days ago. These were suggestions for ideal multiplayer teams.

http://social.biowar...3/index/9013073

Some of the proposed teams.

Team 1

Sentinel x2 (Can strip away enemy defenses with base powers and they have Tech Armor to assist in completing objectives)

Vanguard (Charge and Shotguns, good for elimination)

Engineer/Adept, depending on enemy faction (Adept mainly for elimination and CC, Engineer can strip shields and plant turrets)

Team 2

Sentinel - tank/utility
Adept - biotic combos
Engineer - cc/defense stripping
Vanguard - dps/utility

Vanguard could pull bot for the Sentinel between charges, so the Adept doesn't have to do it. You could just tell your Adept or Sentinel to deal with it and grab a Infiltrator/Soldier and bask in the glory of the Widow's dps.


Team 3

2 soldiers, a sentinel and an engineer.


Team 4

Krogan Vanguard
Krogan Vanguard
Krogan Vanguard
Krogan Va- CHARGE ALL THE REAPERS!

Team Shotgun:

Asari Vangard
Krogran Soldier
Human Soildier
Quarian Engineer

Full firepower with a subtle hint of biotics and tech.

Soldier
Vanguard
Engineer
Adept

Good balance/firepower and can handle any enemy as a team.

Sentinel
Infiltrator
Vanguard
Adept

Would work well as a more independent squad on larger maps where the team might get separated


This was also good.

RTFA

Ready - Krogan Sentinel
Team - Salarian Infiltrator
Fire - Asari Adept
Assist - Krogan Vanguard

Another great idea

As for races, ideally:

Infiltrator- Male Quarian
Sentinel- Male Drell
Adept- Female Asari
Engineer- Female Quarian

2nd choice:

All Human:
Male Infiltrator
Male Sentinel
Female Adept
Male Engineer

Pros-
-Two disablers + one crowd control means enemies are going to be kept very busy
-Three techs to go against geth/synthetic enemies
-Two biotics to go against those with biotic protection

Cons-
-No real frontline man/woman
-If enemies get too close the team can wind up screwed real easy
-Weak defense

Also quite a popular choice.

Soldier, Soldier, Soldier and umm lets see Soldier

The above ideas weren't my ideas. They were the ideas of the imaginative Bioware Social Network Community

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jreezy wrote...

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@ jreezy - OH, okay. I'm a pilot, so when I see the word "strafe," I automatically think bullets. XD But yeah, that is super cool.

A pilot? Nice, just like Joker. Make sure your aircraft is equipped with its own A.I. It could come in handy


That's why I like him so much. :D But, I'd have to say, it'd scare the crap out of me if my plane were artificially intelligent. It's already too intelligent, if you ask me. Lol.

@ Wynne - Sentinel on Insanity, eh? I guess that Tech Armor would come in handy, but your ability to deal damage sucks because you only have a pistol and SMG. Lol. I guess it's a double-edged sword. When my sister did her first ME2 playthrough, she was like, "What class should I play if I don't want to die all the time?" I told her Sentinel. 

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

jreezy wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

@ jreezy - OH, okay. I'm a pilot, so when I see the word "strafe," I automatically think bullets. XD But yeah, that is super cool.

A pilot? Nice, just like Joker. Make sure your aircraft is equipped with its own A.I. It could come in handy


That's why I like him so much. :D But, I'd have to say, it'd scare the crap out of me if my plane were artificially intelligent. It's already too intelligent, if you ask me. Lol.

@ Wynne - Sentinel on Insanity, eh? I guess that Tech Armor would come in handy, but your ability to deal damage sucks because you only have a pistol and SMG. Lol. I guess it's a double-edged sword. When my sister did her first ME2 playthrough, she was like, "What class should I play if I don't want to die all the time?" I told her Sentinel. 


Sentinels will be able to wield Assault Rifles, or Sniper Rifles or Shotguns depending on their preference. But unlike Soldiers they won't be able to have all of them at once. The Sentinel must choose which Jessie to date and which Jessie's to dump. (Zaeed reference).

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Oh God, this was hilarious. LOL! And yeah, I'll probably be a Vanguard as per usual - heh.

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"So Your Friend Is A Vanguard" blog wrote...

As an engineer, you’ll find it easy to think of your vanguard friend as a slightly less-controllable version of your combat drone, annoying your enemies and getting them to shoot at something that isn’t you.



I play Engie. Note to self - get a Vanguard pet. =]

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How about a squad of Vanguards? XD

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Abraham_uk wrote...

Sentinels will be able to wield Assault Rifles, or Sniper Rifles or Shotguns depending on their preference. But unlike Soldiers they won't be able to have all of them at once. The Sentinel must choose which Jessie to date and which Jessie's to dump. (Zaeed reference).


For most of your first ME2 playthrough as a Sentinel, you only have two guns. It sucks. In ME1 it sucks even more because you're only trained on pistols...it sucks less because the powers are better.

I think in ME3 you're still only going to be able to choose 2 out of the 4 types of guns. Soldiers can wield all 4, Infiltrators can have 3, and I'm not sure about the others. I'd imagine it's exactly as it is in ME2...Sentinels, Adepts, and Engineers can only have 2 standard weapons, Vanguard and Infiltrator can have 3, and the Soldier can have them all.

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Now, if the devs play with us ... and use the Engineer class ... and like they said a Vanguard is like being a second combat drone for the Engineer would someone else playing a Vangaurd in their team make him/her a ... Biodrone?

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"So when you’re hosing down a Warp-stunned Cerberus trooper with an assault rifle, it can be disconcerting to see your friend suddenly rocket into your line of fire as she charges your target. Your first instinct might be to go, “Whoah, sorry, Sylvia, I’ll stop firing!”

Do not stop firing."

Ah ha!

"Rez?"

These make me more excited for the game than any other marketing.

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Truby-Liz wrote...

"So Your Friend Is A Vanguard" blog wrote...

As an engineer, you’ll find it easy to think of your vanguard friend as a slightly less-controllable version of your combat drone, annoying your enemies and getting them to shoot at something that isn’t you.



I play Engie. Note to self - get a Vanguard pet. =]

Indeed. 

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How about a squad of Vanguards? XD

Combat pinball.

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Now, if the devs play with us ... and use the Engineer class ... and like they said a Vanguard is like being a second combat drone for the Engineer would someone else playing a Vangaurd in their team make him/her a ... Biodrone?

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So that's the definition of a Biodrone. It all makes sense now.

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jreezy wrote...

So that's the definition of a Biodrone. It all makes sense now.


Probably the nicest definition I've read so far. 

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So that's the definition of a Biodrone. It all makes sense now.


Probably the nicest definition I've read so far. 


My words, if being a Biodrone means you are a raving shotgun maniac just waiting to waltz over some enemies, then I am proudly a Biodrone!

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Where's ma next target *grrr*