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[Shifty-looking Chicken]

Ryzaki wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Cheez: Huh. I found it tripe and cheesy myself. Almost as cavity inducing as the peace ending between the geth and the quarians.

I like the geth/quarian peace ending. Certainly better than either moronic "genocide FTW" ending.

More like self defense ftw since I'm siding with the geth.

It's still genocide. And the majority of quarians are still innocents, including the small children and babies they never show but most certainly must exist.

Anyway, I read the dialogue from the "side with the geth" ending and it was absolutely awful.

Modifié par Shifty-looking Chicken, 27 janvier 2012 - 11:32 .

[True Zarken]

I still don't understand why they had to make EDI sexy, but like Cheez said "So long as the camera doesn't do the Miranda thing, I might actually be okay with her."

[Ryzaki]

Spoiler tagging I suppose.

1136342t54 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ugh so silly. Some of it yeah but she has enough good intel to give to Shepard.

Interesting. Either way I wouldn't really expect Miranda to be on Shepard's team due to the information. While it could be useful I would assume the Alliance would use both her and Jacob to root out Cerberus cells and maybe some informants. Maybe when they gain more trust have them lead strike teams against Cerbrus bases.

Oh please like Shepard bows to the alliance. If they don't like how Shepard does things they can find their own way to defeat the Reapers. That'll shut them up right quick. Plus Shep has an AI running around. He clearly doesn't give that much of a damn what the alliance thinks.

I'm not inclined to think Miranda would care about the alliance's trust. Her main goals would probably be bringing down Cerberus and protecting her sister.

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...
It's still genocide. And the majority of quarians are still innocents, including the small children and babies they never show but most certainly must exist.

Anyway, I read the dialogue from the "side with the geth" ending and it was absolutely awful.

I fail to see how it's genocide if it's in self defense. Regardless don't care. If those idiots want to attack with their children inside they'll get blown up with their children inside.

I loved it. But of course it's a YMMV.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 janvier 2012 - 11:36 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Well that's Cheez for you.

I fully and shamelessly admit that I'm a sucker for 90s Disney classics and sappy, comedic chick flicks.  A light peppering of bunnies and rainbows amidst the galactic apocalypse is... refreshing.

[mellifera]

Hey guys, can you at least do spoiler tags for stuff? Like, completely unrelated things (the quarian/geth stuff up there, for example).

[AdmiralCheez]

mrsph wrote...

There is apparently an entire scene dedicated to EDI doing yoga and distracting the crew and Shepard having to tell her to knock it off.

How could you not get distracted?  It's like a pole dance crossed with a train wreck.

Oh well.  It wouldn't be Mass Effect without the occasional moment of extreme derping.

GRR RAHR ARGH BUT THE PRIZE

[1136342t54_]

Ryzaki wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ugh so silly. Some of it yeah but she has enough good intel to give to Shepard.

Interesting. Either way I wouldn't really expect Miranda to be on Shepard's team due to the information. While it could be useful I would assume the Alliance would use both her and Jacob to root out Cerberus cells and maybe some informants. Maybe when they gain more trust have them lead strike teams against Cerbrus bases.

Oh please like Shepard bows to the alliance. If they don't like how Shepard does things they can find their own way to defeat the Reapers. That'll shut them up right quick. Plus Shep has an AI running around. He clearly doesn't give that much of a damn what the alliance thinks.

I'm not inclined to think Miranda would care about the alliance's trust. Her main goals would probably be bringing down Cerberus and protecting her sister.

What? I was saying that the Alliance just takes them in like they took Shepard's ship. While former Cerberus operatives they would still be held for questioning. It would make plenty of sense that they eventually get to join or lead Alliance strike teams against Cerberus. Especially if Cerberus is becoming a larger problem during a Galactic war.

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

Ryzaki wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...
It's still genocide. And the
majority of quarians are still innocents, including the small children
and babies they never show but most certainly must exist.

Anyway, I read the dialogue from the "side with the geth" ending and it was absolutely awful.

I fail to see how it's genocide if it's in self defense. Regardless don't care. If those idiots want to attack with their children inside they'll get blown up with their children inside.

I loved it. But of course it's a YMMV.

At the risk of making what might not be a perfect analogy, how do you feel about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

[Icinix]

Saphra Deden wrote...

True Zarken wrote...

I still don't understand why they had to make EDI sexy, but like Cheez said "So long as the camera doesn't do the Miranda thing, I might actually be okay with her."

What makes you think they won't do this or are you just hoping because you're desperate?

What? He's hoping they DON'T do the Camera thing....

Also I doubt they will - its one thing to showcase a bio-engineered arse.

Its another to zoom in on old metal butt every few seconds.

[1136342t54_]

mrsph wrote...

There is apparently an entire scene dedicated to EDI doing yoga and distracting the crew and Shepard having to tell her to knock it off.

*rubs chin* maybe EDI getting a body isn't such a bad thing.

Actually that reminds me of this old cartoon in which a robot was doing yoga perfectly amazing everyone else who was learning it.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 27 janvier 2012 - 11:36 .

[AVPen]

Saphra Deden wrote...

AVPen wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I keep reading this script and I'm just...

... Aw, man. EDI. EDI, why are you such a sweet, funny, clever girl? Why do you make it impossible to hate you?

STILL NOT ON BOARD WITH THE BODY DECISION.

Give in, Cheez, you know you want to. 

No, show some integrity and maintain an intelligent opinion.

Dude....

First of all, I wasn't even speaking to you. 

Second of all, I was merely being humerous and not serious in the slightest - if AdmiralCheez doesn't want to like to EDI when all is said and done, that's ultimately her choice and I have no factor into her decision at all.

EDIT: Not gonna bring this off-topic, back to the discussion of EDI.

Modifié par AVPen, 27 janvier 2012 - 11:42 .

[nitefyre410]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

No, show some integrity and maintain an intelligent opinion.

My intelligent opinion is this:

I like EDI.  I like where her character goes in ME3.  I like her dialogue, and her power loadout looks cool.  Hell, I even think her new look is cute.  But I think the sexualization was completely unnecessary and reflects poorly on Bioware as a whole.  Blatant sexualization is nothing but a cheap appeal to the lowest common denominator of the "target audience," and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

The EDI thing was a bad move, but some good things came out of it.  I would rather have an ME2 squadmate take her place (Miranda and Legion are obvious candidates), but like Miranda, EDI's pretty cool once you get past the fact that her character design was an offering to the gods of the mouthbreathers.

 

That is a completely understandable and rational point.  While yes  there could have been others that could have been used... the choice is made now. 

as for the mouth breathers.... I like the  design but  I will never like them.   Once again though  it comes down to Bioware poor and terrible PR, someone should have said "lets not say this like this."  but no absoutely no fore thought.  So they killed the own new  thing could be cool before it could be well recieved.  

Then again... the  mouthbreaters do it to thems by acting the way they do 

[AdmiralCheez]

Legion: Your new platform is inefficient. It has low-volume hydraulics and is top-heavy.

Oh god I am cracking the hell up.

[Ryzaki]

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...
At the risk of making what might not be a perfect analogy, how do you feel about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

You mean those two bombs that stopped hundreds of thousands if not millions of other people from dying? 

They were necessary and for the greater good despite the tragedy they caused.

1136342t54 wrote...

What? I was saying that the Alliance just takes them in like they took Shepard's ship. While former Cerberus operatives they would still be held for questioning. It would make plenty of sense that they eventually get to join or lead Alliance strike teams against Cerberus. Especially if Cerberus is becoming a larger problem during a Galactic war.

Why would anyone be that stupid? I'm talking about later after Shepard has the Normandy during the Reaper invasion. I fully expect anyone with sense to abandon the Normandy when Shep turns himself in. They wouldn't be there for the alliance to threaten and by the time anyone in the alliance knows where they are they'll be back with Shep and their won't be a damn thing the alliance can do about it.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 janvier 2012 - 11:38 .

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

mrsph wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

At the risk of making what might not be a perfect analogy, how do you feel about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Please don't compare events like this to the events of a videogame. It's tacky.

What should I compare it to then? No other similar examples come to mind.

Besides, fiction is used as a metaphor for real-world occurences all the time.

[SolidBeast]

mrsph wrote...

There is apparently an entire scene dedicated to EDI doing yoga and distracting the crew and Shepard having to tell her to knock it off.

I laughed. But... this... isn't actually in the...? I don't even need to finish this, I already know the answer.

[1136342t54_]

Ryzaki wrote...
Why would anyone be that stupid? I'm talking about later after Shepard has the Normandy during the Reaper invasion. I fully expect anyone with sense to abandon the Normandy when Shep turns himself in. They wouldn't be there for the alliance to threaten and by the time anyone in the alliance knows where they are they'll be back with Shep and their won't be a damn thing the alliance can do about it.

It would likely be a requirement. The Alliance would want to take Shepard in and all Cerberus personnel along with the ship.

Edit: It could be argued they would leave anyway and Shepard could claim they overpowered him, but I could see some of the Cerberus crew actually staying for the trial. Shepard though could lie and say they overpowered him. 

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 27 janvier 2012 - 11:41 .