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***ME3 SPOILERS*** EDI in Mass Effect 3 Support and Discussion Thread! "I love the sight of humans on their knees."
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#127
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:45
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I just can't wait for folks to see where EDI had originally come from...though it will probably upset a few as well.
#128
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:46
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ArkkAngel007 wrote...
I just can't wait for folks to see where EDI had originally come from...though it will probably upset a few as well.
It blew my mind when I first saw it.
#129
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:47
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I support EDI.
In ME2, she was a good, though a bit underdeveloped character, in ME3, she'll be a good, developed character. I wanted to see her developed more, and I've got my wish.
It's true, I'd rather have some other squadmembers instead of her, but I feel that she fits into the overall story. She blurs the lines between synthetic and organic, which is an thing important for ME3's storyline, she raises a lot of interesting, philosophical questions and goes through magnified versions of some of our universal struggles (where do I fit in the world, what is my value)... Plus, her personality is very likable.
But what gets me most excited about EDI is the sheer potential of it all. There is a lot of things Bioware could do with her character, I just hope that they A) realize this and
Don't go overboard and try too many things, that's just as bad.
As for her design. I can't say I'm a fan of it. I mean, form a purely aesthetic point of view it looks fine. Good in fact, very vintage and classic and yet somehow modern at the same time. If it were just a picture, I'd like it. But as a character design in ME universe, particularly with the story that was given behind the body, I just don't think it fits.
Oh, and EDI/Joker romance is pretty sweet. It's helpful when it comes to driving certain points home and I have enjoyed watching their relationship develop in ME2. And there was a lot of development, whether you thought it was romantic or not. I always felt like there was a little subtext there, but I didn't take it seriously, even though I should have.
It's funny how we value the same emotion differently based on its point of origin. A chemical reaction or a series of codes, it's real to the one experiencing it, no?
In ME2, she was a good, though a bit underdeveloped character, in ME3, she'll be a good, developed character. I wanted to see her developed more, and I've got my wish.
It's true, I'd rather have some other squadmembers instead of her, but I feel that she fits into the overall story. She blurs the lines between synthetic and organic, which is an thing important for ME3's storyline, she raises a lot of interesting, philosophical questions and goes through magnified versions of some of our universal struggles (where do I fit in the world, what is my value)... Plus, her personality is very likable.
But what gets me most excited about EDI is the sheer potential of it all. There is a lot of things Bioware could do with her character, I just hope that they A) realize this and
Don't go overboard and try too many things, that's just as bad.As for her design. I can't say I'm a fan of it. I mean, form a purely aesthetic point of view it looks fine. Good in fact, very vintage and classic and yet somehow modern at the same time. If it were just a picture, I'd like it. But as a character design in ME universe, particularly with the story that was given behind the body, I just don't think it fits.
Oh, and EDI/Joker romance is pretty sweet. It's helpful when it comes to driving certain points home and I have enjoyed watching their relationship develop in ME2. And there was a lot of development, whether you thought it was romantic or not. I always felt like there was a little subtext there, but I didn't take it seriously, even though I should have.
It's funny how we value the same emotion differently based on its point of origin. A chemical reaction or a series of codes, it's real to the one experiencing it, no?
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Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:50
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#132
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:53
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Heh that is pretty funny. Shep goes from "you're not alive not really." to a Reaper but EDI *highlight for spoilers* [color=rgb(50, 50, 50] (who is reverse engineered from Reaper materials and the Luna AI) [/color] gets a "you're a person."
Please let "You're a person EDI." be optional. Like my renegade Shep said in ME2. She's equipment not crew. He doesn't need another personality transplant like he got from ME1 to ME2.
Please let "You're a person EDI." be optional. Like my renegade Shep said in ME2. She's equipment not crew. He doesn't need another personality transplant like he got from ME1 to ME2.
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#134
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:54
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How do you feel about Legion and his state of personhood?Ryzaki wrote...
Please let "You're a person EDI." be optional. Like my renegade Shep said in ME2. She's equipment not crew. He doesn't need another personality transplant like he got from ME1 to ME2.
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Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:55
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#136
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:56
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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...
How do you feel about Legion and his state of personhood?Ryzaki wrote...
Please let "You're a person EDI." be optional. Like my renegade Shep said in ME2. She's equipment not crew. He doesn't need another personality transplant like he got from ME1 to ME2.
Legion never refers to himself as a person nor does Shepard. Heck Legion even chastizes Shepard during his mission for treating the geth like an organic race.
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#137
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:56
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Shall I tell you how she avoided being deleted by the Alliance?
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Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:56
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Have you read the ME3 spoilers regarding Legion?Ryzaki wrote...
Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...
How do you feel about Legion and his state of personhood?Ryzaki wrote...
Please let "You're a person EDI." be optional. Like my renegade Shep said in ME2. She's equipment not crew. He doesn't need another personality transplant like he got from ME1 to ME2.
Legion never refers to himself as a person nor does Shepard. Heck Legion even chastizes Shepard during his mission for treating the geth like an organic race.
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Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:57
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#141
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:58
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Hello Man wrote...
VI's arent aware so I don't consider them alive per say
...could you snip that out. The spoiler tags are there for a reason.
I consider her alive though. Just not a person. She will never be a person. I'm just amused that Shepard flat out calls other AI not alive. As long as he can keep that up in ME3 I'll have no issue.
#142
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:59
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He can do the greyed-out text thing, don't worry.Hello Man wrote...
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Shall I tell you how she avoided being deleted by the Alliance?
tell them privately. I rather not have it spoiled for me
Regardless, I already know.
#143
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 07:59
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Personally i think she awesome and a great callback to Metropolis as for the body it mostly look like a mannequin and i guess that is sexy to some....though i wonder at the current rate it will end up being completely impossible for Bioware to have any female characters in their game without somebody crying "she's overly sexy" ..
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Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 08:00
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#145
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 08:00
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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...
Have you read the ME3 spoilers regarding Legion?
Yes I have.
Highlight spoilers below
He calls himself "I" right before he dies. True enough and no my Shepard would not consider him a person or treat him like one. He's an invidiual geth in that scenario nothing more.
#146
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 08:01
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Hello Man wrote...
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...could you snip that out. The spoiler tags are there for a reason.
Say what?
When you quoted my text the greyed out part became visible. Can you snip the quote?
#147
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 08:01
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I still think EDI on Joker is too
much. Can't we go for more of the traditional computer on computer stuff.
No.
I mean, sure, but that would defeat the point. And I believe that the point lies in the merger ending. If we become more like synthetics, do we really lose anything? Do we become less human in the process?
Looking at EDI and her relationship with Joker, it is pretty clear that we do not.
She serves as an example of a possible outcome which would sound too vague
otherwise.
She is a person though. She's got free will, thoughts, feelings and everything. Medigel heals her like everyone else.She's equipment not crew.
But yes, your Shepard can be a douche if you want.
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#149
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 08:01
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Your post up the page. You quoted her and the hidden text got revealed.Hello Man wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
...could you snip that out. The spoiler tags are there for a reason.
Say what?
#150
Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 08:02
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So I'm guessing a copy of EDI's program is going to be in the robot body? I don't see why she would erase her program on the Normandy.
It would be interesting to see if they become two distinct individuals or they just update each other's program all the time.
If there is only one EDI program (for whatever ridiculous reason) we might have a way to kill off EDI for good if we put the robot body into a perilous situation!
It would be interesting to see if they become two distinct individuals or they just update each other's program all the time.
If there is only one EDI program (for whatever ridiculous reason) we might have a way to kill off EDI for good if we put the robot body into a perilous situation!
