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Leather_Rebel90 wrote...

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Nope, didn't do it. I'm not 'squeemish' I just think it's wrong. I'm allowed my opinions and beliefs. As are you. Stop preaching open-mindedness when if you can't accept all forms of beliefs. I hate it when they gay rights fighters sit there and reprimand others for not being open-minded when they themselves aren't open-minded enough to accept that people are going to have a differing opinion on the subject.


And that was the most perverse statement in this topic. I wouldn't believe that such thing was still possible.


See? Thanks for proving my point. You're saying I should be more open-minded when you yourself cannot accept that I am allowed to think differently than you.

P.S. Yes I know my grammar is horrible right now, I just worked the night-shift =*(


No, it was just a joke. As for the gay rights however, there are no such rights. There are only human rights.

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Leather_Rebel90 wrote...

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I think my thread just got hijacked by some ghey versus anti ghey talk


Meh, I wasn't trying to. I was just protecting myself from being flamed which didn't work. You can't have an opinion on this forum I guess. You have to agree with what's politically correct or be lunatic fringe.


Opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one... but its best to keep it to yourself.

I agree with you but i dont tell everyone about it. The topic did touch a bit on the subject though so i really dont mind.

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Leather_Rebel90 wrote...

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Why? Because I have a different view on that subject than you? Yeah, great example of stupidity.


No, because your opinions are based upon nothing reasonable, and their most likely origin is a bronze-age religion that allowed slavery, forced marriage of women captured during war, and stoning of people who collect firewood on their holy day.  Unless you're sticking to an archaic, irrational, and self-contradictory moral code, there is no grounds for saying homosexuality is immoral. 


How 'bout being Christian? *Queue the anti-religious fanatics*

I havn't forced my opinions on you in any way. I didn't say you were wrong I said I thought it was wrong. There's a HUGE difference. But apparently you're just like everyone else who can't accept that people are going to have differing opinions, on EVERY subject.


Yes, like I said in my post above, being Christian.  I guess that did not get through.  Were you not aware that Christianity was based upon a Bronze Age religion that allowed slavery, forced marriage of women captured in war, and stoning of people who collect wood on their holy day? 

You're welcome to have as many differing opinions as you like, and I am welcome to have my own opinions on as many different things as I would like, which means I can have opinions on your opinions.  And my opinion is that your opinion in this matter is ignorant.

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Leather_Rebel90, people like you are the reason why there's still so much hate and bigotry on this world.


And all of you CONTINUE to prove me right yet are too ignorant to see it. This is hilarious. Keep it coming.

Did I say once that it was black and white absolutely wrong? No. I said I, as in ME personally, as in a human being, did not THINK it was right. Meaning, it was an opinion, which we're all alowed. I can't make it ANY clearer than that. I'm not sitting here and evangalizing like a fanatic, that's everyone else in this thread. I stated my opinion and got flamed for not thinking like the rest of the crowd.

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Creature 1 wrote...

Leather_Rebel90 wrote...

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Why? Because I have a different view on that subject than you? Yeah, great example of stupidity.


No, because your opinions are based upon nothing reasonable, and their most likely origin is a bronze-age religion that allowed slavery, forced marriage of women captured during war, and stoning of people who collect firewood on their holy day.  Unless you're sticking to an archaic, irrational, and self-contradictory moral code, there is no grounds for saying homosexuality is immoral. 


How 'bout being Christian? *Queue the anti-religious fanatics*

I havn't forced my opinions on you in any way. I didn't say you were wrong I said I thought it was wrong. There's a HUGE difference. But apparently you're just like everyone else who can't accept that people are going to have differing opinions, on EVERY subject.


Yes, like I said in my post above, being Christian.  I guess that did not get through.  Were you not aware that Christianity was based upon a Bronze Age religion that allowed slavery, forced marriage of women captured in war, and stoning of people who collect wood on their holy day? 

You're welcome to have as many differing opinions as you like, and I am welcome to have my own opinions on as many different things as I would like, which means I can have opinions on your opinions.  And my opinion is that your opinion in this matter is ignorant.


Ooook... getting out of hand. Please dont get religion involve in this or peoples real life sexual preferances... i was just talking about a game.

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For me, it's not about morality. I just don't swing that way. For people that do, good for you.

The kinds of activities and relationships people engage in is their own business.




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Riddley313 wrote...

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I did it for the achievement AND I installed a mod that would confuse Alistair about my gender to be able to sleep with him too, for the achievement. Top that, punks ;)

I also obviously cheated on Leliana for Morrigan's achievement.


Your ePeen is going to get funny stuff growing on it... and prolly fall off.


Sure it will. I also pulled off a foursome with Isabella, Zevran and Leliana at the Pearl. That took some planning, and yet, no achievement for it :(

I took solace with the "surprise me!" sheep. 30 silver, pfft, what a rip off.


When I tried to get a threesome going, Leilani was having none of it. Suddenly, after years of seducing men, women, and god knows what else, she developed standards.

Geesh.


The threesome isnt nearly as hard as the foursome. Gotta time it right.

Leliana is interested in fooling around from after the end of her personal plot with Marjolaine, but expects exclusivity after the love talk that can only occur once youve already slept with her one on one. Furthermore to interest her in the threesome, you must kill Marjolaine and tell her she was good as a spy and that she was only pretending to be happy as a sister, to "harden" her.

Once you know these are the conditions, the path is easy; go straight to the Pearl after ending her quest and talking with her about staying tough. Even if you havent had sex with her yet, she'll go for the threesome as long as her conditions are met; it can be quite surprising because she jumps in out of the blue.

Zevran is easier. Just have him be there then and shown him any signs of interests and he'll make it a foursome.

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No, because your opinions are based upon nothing reasonable, and their most likely origin is a bronze-age religion that allowed slavery, forced marriage of women captured during war, and stoning of people who collect firewood on their holy day.  Unless you're sticking to an archaic, irrational, and self-contradictory moral code, there is no grounds for saying homosexuality is immoral. 


Social morality is IMHO a fascist tool. Nothing such exists in an objective sense. Quite the contrary, morality is something inner, resulting from one's unique conscience and, therefore, it is subjective and relative. Objective morality is very close to the law, both being products and demonstrations of social violence.

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Loetek wrote...

Leather_Rebel90 wrote...

Loetek wrote...

I think my thread just got hijacked by some ghey versus anti ghey talk


Meh, I wasn't trying to. I was just protecting myself from being flamed which didn't work. You can't have an opinion on this forum I guess. You have to agree with what's politically correct or be lunatic fringe.


Opinions are like ass holes... everyone has one... but its best to keep it to yourself.

I agree with you but i dont tell everyone about it. The topic did touch a bit on the subject though so i really dont mind.


I thought this thread was for opinions. It's always a touchy subject when you've got ignorant people who can't accept that human beings arn't robots that you can make think the same thing. Sorry for ruining your thread =(

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I am in the process of hooking my female elven mage up with Zhev. It made me so sad he didn't like my rogue after she told him to quit flirting.

Edit: removed slight spoiler. Forgot about that. :bandit:

Modifié par Druscylla, 23 novembre 2009 - 11:02 .


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I screwed everything that I possibly could in Dragon Age. Why? Because watching some blank-eyed fantasy barbie dolls rolling around on the ground while an Enya imposter tunelessly warbled Glossolalia in the background is one of the funniest things I have ever seen in a video game. Achievements be damned, I did it for the lulz.

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Valamyr wrote...

Riddley313 wrote...

Valamyr wrote...

Loetek wrote...

Valamyr wrote...

I did it for the achievement AND I installed a mod that would confuse Alistair about my gender to be able to sleep with him too, for the achievement. Top that, punks ;)

I also obviously cheated on Leliana for Morrigan's achievement.


Your ePeen is going to get funny stuff growing on it... and prolly fall off.


Sure it will. I also pulled off a foursome with Isabella, Zevran and Leliana at the Pearl. That took some planning, and yet, no achievement for it :(

I took solace with the "surprise me!" sheep. 30 silver, pfft, what a rip off.


When I tried to get a threesome going, Leilani was having none of it. Suddenly, after years of seducing men, women, and god knows what else, she developed standards.

Geesh.


The threesome isnt nearly as hard as the foursome. Gotta time it right.

Leliana is interested in fooling around from after the end of her personal plot with Marjolaine, but expects exclusivity after the love talk that can only occur once youve already slept with her one on one. Furthermore to interest her in the threesome, you must kill Marjolaine and tell her she was good as a spy and that she was only pretending to be happy as a sister, to "harden" her.

Once you know these are the conditions, the path is easy; go straight to the Pearl after ending her quest and talking with her about staying tough. Even if you havent had sex with her yet, she'll go for the threesome as long as her conditions are met; it can be quite surprising because she jumps in out of the blue.

Zevran is easier. Just have him be there then and shown him any signs of interests and he'll make it a foursome.


Thanks man. but them are some hard core spoilers there yo.:ph34r:

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Mr. Crimea wrote...

I screwed everything that I possibly could in Dragon Age. Why? Because watching some blank-eyed fantasy barbie dolls rolling around on the ground while an Enya imposter tunelessly warbled Glossolalia in the background is one of the funniest things I have ever seen in a video game. Achievements be damned, I did it for the lulz.



That is EXACTLY what I thought when I heard the music. I was like "Is someone croaking an Enya song?"

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To be honest I am most worried about Zhev though. As I stated above, he hated my poor rogue because she turned him down when he tried to flirt because she is with Alistair. I even got Morrigan to like me and I am a goodie two shoes, but Zhev is a snob. :( He only gets like +1 from every gift other than his special ones :(

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Er...Who cares what people think? Opinion is not descrimination not by a long shot.

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Druscylla wrote...

I am in the process of hooking my female elven mage up with Zhev. It made me so sad he didn't like my rogue after she told him to quit flirting.

Edit: removed slight spoiler. Forgot about that. :bandit:


Yeah i already read it before you edited it. But thats ok... Zhev gave me the shaft too.

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We were only experimenting...

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Leather_Rebel90 wrote...You're saying I should be more open-minded when you yourself cannot accept that I am allowed to think differently than you.

Nice try. The problem is that we are NOT saying that people should be completely open-minded and accept every conceivable position or opinion. We are saying that you should not discriminate against people on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.

It is ridiculous (and offensive) sophistry  to suggest that to embrace tolerance we must therefore embrace your intolerance. Supporting equal rights for women, visible minorities or LGBT people does NOT mean that we must also support and approve of people who like to toss puppies into wood-chippers, eat fried babies or are arrogant homophobic bigots.

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Whats wrong with tossing puppies into wood-chippers? Or did i just take what you said the wrong way?

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Johohoho.Ehehehe wrote...

Leather_Rebel90 wrote...

Johohoho.Ehehehe wrote...

Leather_Rebel90 wrote...

Nope, didn't do it. I'm not 'squeemish' I just think it's wrong. I'm allowed my opinions and beliefs. As are you. Stop preaching open-mindedness when if you can't accept all forms of beliefs. I hate it when they gay rights fighters sit there and reprimand others for not being open-minded when they themselves aren't open-minded enough to accept that people are going to have a differing opinion on the subject.


And that was the most perverse statement in this topic. I wouldn't believe that such thing was still possible.


See? Thanks for proving my point. You're saying I should be more open-minded when you yourself cannot accept that I am allowed to think differently than you.

P.S. Yes I know my grammar is horrible right now, I just worked the night-shift =*(


No, it was just a joke. As for the gay rights however, there are no such rights. There are only human rights.


^this I'm so sick of "women's rights!" "men's rights!" "children's rights!"

>_> 

Human rights PERIOD FULL STOP. Stop putting people on darn pedatsals darnit.

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Leather_Rebel90, for what it's worth, I support you.

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I haven't hooked up with Zev because I accidentally discouraged the romance without noticing that I had.



My main character is in a committed relationship with Leliana and as far as my save game progress goes, he hasn't slept with anyone else.



I did, however, sleep with Morrigan for the achievement and then reload my save. I didn't keep it. I was going to do the same with Zev but like I said messed that up. I'm going to run the game next as a female and will romance Alistair and Zev then.



I LOVE that Bioware was forwardthinking enough to add optional homosexuality. I'm straight but very approving of Gay Rights and loving whom you want. I think it is a nice option.



Don't like it? Don't do it.

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I did it for the achievement on my female character. And reload thereafter. I don't like zev anyway.

About the gay relation ? i just can't. I have nothing about gay, but i just can't. It's even a bit difficult to see scene between my female char and a male (especially in mass effect, in DA there is no sex, just underwear party).

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Down with the Chantry and their outdated ideologies!