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[Lumikki]

As previous discussion was closed here and here, I open new one.

Please, try to say in topic.

Chris Priestly wrote...

Below are answers to the most commonly asked questions about Origin and Mass Effect 3. Thank you for your patience as we have worked to answer them.

1) Will Origin be a requirement to play all versions of Mass Effect 3? (Digital and/or from a retail brick and mortar store)
Yes, Origin is required for all PC editions of Mass Effect 3, physical or digital.

2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit  to the number of installations available?
Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.

3) Is Origin required for the retail versions of the game?
Origin is required for the PC versions of Mass Effect 3, both physical and digital.

4) Will ME3 be available on Steam?
During initial release Mass Effect 3 will be available on Origin and a number of other 3rd party digital retailers, but not on Steam at this time. Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content.  We are intent on providing Mass Effect to players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers.

5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection?
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game.
Added by Lumikki: EA Support info: 'You can not opt out of data collection by the Origin client.'

6) I’ve seen reports that Origin is spyware.  Is this true?
Origin is not spyware, and does not use or install spyware on user’s machines.  In order to allow Origin to install games and their patches for everyone to use, Origin implements a permission change that results in Windows, not Origin, reviewing the filenames in the ProgramData/Origin folder.   This is an ordinary Windows function, not an information-gathering process.

7) Has the Origin EULA been updated following recent questions in Germany?
The German Origin EULA has been updated.  For more information, please review the Origin EULA here: http://www.ea.com/1/product-eulas.

8) Is there a double-opt in for Mass Effect 3 marketing emails for German residents?
Yes, we always adhere to the German requirement of a double opt-in standard for marketing emails.  Mass Effect 3 users must opt-in twice to receive these emails.

9)Can I install Origin, install Mass Effect 3 and then uninstall Origin and keep playing Mass Effect 3? Even if I only want to play the Single Player Game?
Mass Effect 3 requires Origin to be played, so you cannot play Mass Effect 3 without Origin being installed. This applies to both the single player and multiplayer games.

10) If I have uninstalled Mass Effect 3 or Origin, do I need to reinstall Origin to reinstall Mass Effect 3?
You must have Origin installed to play Mass Effect 3. You would need to reinstall Origin and Mass Effect 3.

11)If I have installed Mass Effect 3 and Origin, do I need to keep the install/gameplay disc in the disc drive to play?
Once you have installed Mass Effect 3 and Origin, you do not have to keep the disc in the tray


I appreciate everyone's patience on this topic. Please continue to ask questions about Mass Effect 3 and Origin and I will continue to try to get the answers for you.

Edit: Added questions/answers #9 #10 #11.

Modifié par Lumikki, 01 février 2012 - 11:55 .

[Yuoaman]

Fix the formatting of the first post and maybe I'll discuss Origin.

Yes, it's that big of a deal.

Yes, I'm at least 8% serious.

[wolfsite]

Iveforgotmypassword wrote...

Seeing as hell will freeze over before I buy this game with origin attatched I was wondering..

You know when you get companies like PCGamer that release the bargain bucket stuff ( although most of their titles are old and before all this restrictive/control nonsense started ) has there actually been any publishers recently that have given up on their policies and released their product to the open market when they've made enough money/ closed their servers etc ?

So what I'm saying is is there much chance in the future of me actually being able to buy yhis game and own it rather than renting from a landlord that can change his mind whenever he wants about my tenancy agreement ? Because I can wait no problem it's just a game. Is there any history of things like this happening with other companies or should I just forget about Sheperd and his problems forever ?

Well virtually all video game companies with an extremely few exceptions have moved to the license format, even console games are now this.

Also the "Renting" comment is not valid as it impies you are making multiple payments on a timed basis which in terms of the game you are not since it is a one time purchase allowing you to play the game with the option of paying for additional content down the line.


Edit:

Wow 2 posts in and already off topic

Modifié par wolfsite, 28 janvier 2012 - 12:01 .

[Adugan]

Lumikki gets all the attention and nerdrage now, not Chris.

[craigdolphin]

Personally, I have little else to say on the topic. I think I've made my views and plans adequately known to Bioware and EA (via dmex). Either they will change the Eula and add an opt-out to protect my privacy and my enduring right to play what I have paid for, or they won't. I just hope that if Bioware/EA have anything more to say on the subject they'll announce it prominently enough that I will see the information. Otherwise, I'm out.

[MingWolf]

I have little more to say, though I do hope that at least this topic stays on top to a degree so that the passerby can be informed that EA/Bioware has made this decision and that the concerns of loyal fan or paying customer can be heard; if not for Mass Effect 3, then for future titles.

My only requests are really to have Origin optional, and if not, that EA/Bioware would show a little more transparency with regards to the issues of privacy or at least take a proactive effort in addressing customer concerns. I also encourage/suggest an opt-in feature, rather than opt-out in the future, because this ensures that the customer is given a choice with regards to their information before they are committed to their product (not to mention that Bioware is a Canadian rooted company).

Modifié par MingWolf, 28 janvier 2012 - 11:08 .

[Weskerr]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

"Let me complain about origin while i have an active facebook account"

Facebook is free. Origin is not and nobody wants to use it.

[ArkkAngel007]

1. EA needs to release an official statement on what Origin specifically scans and transmits to EA servers.

2. EA needs to clean up the EULA for Origin so that it is very clear to consumers on what they are agreeing for this platform to do.

3. EA products should only have the option to use Origin; the products shouldn't require it. Use CD-Keys to register the products on Origin servers, but do not require the actual platform to be installed on user's machines.

4. Fix the bug on Origin servers that leads to users on forums being banned from being banned from using products on the platform.

5. Improve customer service. EA employees who consort with customers should investigate issues before making judgements, and not treat customers like they are criminals. These are people who you want to continue selling your product to, so put a smile on that face!

[ItsFreakinJesus]

EA needs to update Origin to have an offline mode and to remove the need for Origin booting up on Origin games unless a person plans to use internet connectivity or multiplayer.

[wolfsite]

Weskerr wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

"Let me complain about origin while i have an active facebook account"

Facebook is free. Origin is not and nobody wants to use it.

Origin is free, you can download the client with no charge.  Also People are using it so please don't assume nobody wants it.

Modifié par wolfsite, 28 janvier 2012 - 11:23 .

[wolfsite]

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

EA needs to update Origin to have an offline mode and to remove the need for Origin booting up on Origin games unless a person plans to use internet connectivity or multiplayer.

Origin does have an offline mode.

[wolfsite]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

The thing is people are worried about the spyware of "origin collecting information" when there information is sold to cooperation through every google search and every time you update your social network profiles.

What proof do you have that they are selling your personal information.  Also you might want to read up on Google's new EULA and privacy policy (Dated for Mar 1) before you answer.

[sackyhack]

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

EA needs to update Origin to have an offline mode and to remove the need for Origin booting up on Origin games unless a person plans to use internet connectivity or multiplayer.

There is an offline mode, and the booting up thing is up to the developer.  I have a bunch of games on Origin that I can boot from their exes w/o Origin being in the background.

[MingWolf]

I'd like to say that since, via my usage of the internet, my personal information is probably already leaked and spread around already, that it is perfectly okay for another company to do the same and sell that information for profit. Actually no, I'd rather not to be honest In any case, improving and communicating privacy terms can be good for everyone, and this has become a hot topic with regards to Origin (since it is required for ME3)

[wolfsite]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

The thing is people are worried about the spyware of "origin collecting information" when there information is sold to cooperation through every google search and every time you update your social network profiles.

What proof do you have that they are selling your personal information.  Also you might want to read up on Google's new EULA and privacy policy (Dated for Mar 1) before you answer.

I did a rTime magazine did a paper on it too. Google did manage to change it but before you had to pay to be opted out of it. Look up commercial data mining. various publications have been made available 

Again can you please provide evidence that EA is selling your personal information.  I looked up some of it but nothing stated that EA was taking your personal information and selling it.

[_Guy_Fawkes_]

wolfsite wrote...

Weskerr wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

"Let me complain about origin while i have an active facebook account"

Facebook is free. Origin is not and nobody wants to use it.

Origin is free, you can download the client with no charge.  Also People are using it so please don't assume nobody wants it.

Really? So there are actually people who solely show interest in the client and once they have downloaded and installed it they're all happy and satisfied?

Or is it more likely the other way round?

That they simply can not access the content (games) without using the Origin client. The only choices they had (with most titles I assume) were: 

a) accept that fact that you won't get to enjoy product XYZ without allowing Origin onto your system 
good bye.

So what's been the true motivation of those people using the Origin client? The client all by itself or rather the fact that there was no other way? Yes, it's more of a rhetorical question.

Modifié par _Guy_Fawkes_, 28 janvier 2012 - 11:44 .

[ItsFreakinJesus]

wolfsite wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

EA needs to update Origin to have an offline mode and to remove the need for Origin booting up on Origin games unless a person plans to use internet connectivity or multiplayer.

Origin does have an offline mode.

lol, it does!

Then why the hell didn't it send me straight to offline mode when I tried to start the program after disabling my internet as a test for a thread awhile back?  I was trying to argue that whatever problems people had with Origin would be solved by killing their internet connection.  I did so, expecting the thing would go offline automatically like Steam and the program didn't even get past the sign in screen.

[sackyhack]

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

EA needs to update Origin to have an offline mode and to remove the need for Origin booting up on Origin games unless a person plans to use internet connectivity or multiplayer.

Origin does have an offline mode.

lol, it does!

Then why the hell didn't it send me straight to offline mode when I tried to start the program after disabling my internet as a test for a thread awhile back?  I was trying to argue that whatever problems people had with Origin would be solved by killing their internet connection.  I did so, expecting the thing would go offline automatically like Steam and the program didn't even get past the sign in screen.

Maybe it was something with your computer or an early version of Origin because I literally just tested both Steam and Origin and they easily boot into offline mode with internet cut off.  Hell Origin even does it automatically when Steam tries to connect then gives an option to start in offline mode.

Modifié par sackyhack, 29 janvier 2012 - 12:01 .

[ItsFreakinJesus]

I doubt it was an early version of Origin since I tested it two weeks or so ago. Unless they stealth updated over the past month. I don't think it was my computer either since Steam went into offline mode.