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[InvisibleJim]

It is a bit of a silly idea; limits the marketplace and forces people to use a specific service they don't want because of corporate greed.  It's akin to North Korea banning South Korean imports because 'North Korea is betterer' even though the peasants are starving.

Pro-tip, if EA want people to use Origin make it better, make others want to sell games on it as a platform. It is only EA who have this issue with Steam. 

I explicitly did not purchase or play BF3 simply because I don't want Origin more than I do want BF3.

Modifié par InvisibleJim, 30 janvier 2012 - 08:15 .

[JasonDaPsycho]

The reason why Origin is unpopular is because Steam has always been a great service. EA decides to come out of nowhere and launch the Origin AND took everything down from Steam (we all know the real reason behind that move even though they say it's not true). Here's the problem. Origin hasn't proved anything to customers when EA decided to stop working with Steam. Customers, naturally, want options. Taking options away is only going to antagonize them.

I'm no economist. Those were just my two cents.

[anzolino]

JasonDaPsycho wrote...
The reason why Origin is unpopular is because Steam has always been a great service. EA decides to come out of nowhere and launch the Origin AND took everything down from Steam (we all know the real reason behind that move even though they say it's not true). Here's the problem. Origin hasn't proved anything to customers when EA decided to stop working with Steam. Customers, naturally, want options. Taking options away is only going to antagonize them.

I'm no economist. Those were just my two cents.

There is another reason: Many people don't have Steam (like me) and they wont use digital platforms, especially the single player and retail copy purchaser have no reason to use this kind of client software. I think most of them wouldn't have a problem to register a game and DLCs online, but this additional client is not what they want to play a game.

[Pygmalin]

 
9)Can I install Origin, install Mass Effect 3 and then uninstall Origin and keep playing Mass Effect 3? Even if I only want to play the Single Player Game?
Mass Effect 3 requires Origin to be played, so you cannot play Mass Effect 3 without Origin being installed. This applies to both the single player and multiplayer games. ~QFA

Why? Why is it a must to use Origin to play. Why did they had this feature to ME3 PC, you should be able to install and go. You should only need an online function if you intend to be online to play. Single player should not need this function, and its limiting players.  I am super confused as to why you need this Origin to play.  Can anyone clearfy the Why factor of this. 

[tishyw]

Eckswhyzed wrote...

tishyw wrote...

It's my understanding that the Origin client in its current state doesn't scan anything it shouldn't, it that correct?
I know that it used to, but they claim that was a bug and it doesn't do that now. I also know that the EULA is dodgy and that they can change the client at any time, but what i want to know is that with the way it works now, does Origin peak where it shouldn't?
Thanks

I have here (link) a reddit comment talking about the supposed "spying" that Origin is doing. That, and after doing some digging of my own, has convinced me that Origin is not"spyware" or doing anything nefarious.

However, you are still taking the advice of two strangers on the internet. Take from this what you want .

Thanks for the info, my plan is to just play ME3 and then get the hell out of dodge.  I don't intend to use Origin or play ME3 with my internet connection active (I'm not interested in multi-player and I can switch my router off when playing ME3), so as long as Origin is happy with me never connecting it to the internet ever again after game activation, then I can live with it.
I'm so over the entire sorry saga than unless the DLC for ME3 is utterly fantastic then I won't be downloading it and I'll only download patches if they fix game breaking bugs.
It's sad but after this and the disaster that was DA2 I very much suspect that this will be my last Bioware game, and I have an original 1990's copy of Baldurs Gate still sitting on my shelf so it's going to be a very sad parting for me at least

[dmex]

tishyw wrote...
so as long as Origin is happy with me never connecting it to the internet ever again after game activation, then I can live with it.

You'll just need to add the cd-key to your Origin account and run the game once (while online) for the activation to take place, after that, you're good to stay offline if you want 

[tishyw]

dmex wrote...

tishyw wrote...
so as long as Origin is happy with me never connecting it to the internet ever again after game activation, then I can live with it.

You'll just need to add the cd-key to your Origin account and run the game once (while online) for the activation to take place, after that, you're good to stay offline if you want 

"run the game once (while online)" - that's an interesting caveat, at what point can I turn off my router?  Can I turn it off after the menu screen is up, after I've imported a previous save, or do I have to have a least one save in ME3 before I can run the game without Origin needing to be connected to the internet?

Also, why?  With Steam I can install my game, register it with Steam and then swtich Steam to off-line mode (and turn off my router) before I start the game, why is it different with Origin?

And, just let me add, I do really appreciate all the information that you've been providing In this thread and the previous threads about Origin, I'm sure it hasn't been easy.
Thanks.

[dmex]

tishyw wrote...

dmex wrote...

tishyw wrote...
so as long as Origin is happy with me never connecting it to the internet ever again after game activation, then I can live with it.

You'll just need to add the cd-key to your Origin account and run the game once (while online) for the activation to take place, after that, you're good to stay offline if you want 

"run the game once (while online)" - that's an interesting caveat, at what point can I turn off my router?  Can I turn it off after the menu screen is up, after I've imported a previous save, or do I have to have a least one save in ME3 before I can run the game without Origin needing to be connected to the internet?

 

Well, just as you start the game for the first time, you'll be prompted to activate, also at first startup some games have a security/anti-piracy feature that requires the user be online the first time they startup the game.

You should be able to 'turn your router off' as soon as the game menu is visible, after that initial start you won't need to be online again.

tishyw wrote... 
Also, why?  With Steam I can install my game, register it with Steam and then swtich Steam to off-line mode (and turn off my router) before I start the game, why is it different with Origin?

Right now, the API's and toolset are incomplete to enable this scenario similar to what Steam does, we want a better solution that's not impacted by compatibility due to publishers implementing the functionality now before it's stable and all bugs ironed out.

You can't build a house on wet cement and this is one area where we really need to make sure it's solid due to the importance of the features that will be relying upon this component.

Modifié par dmex, 31 janvier 2012 - 03:10 .

[Travie]

Wow, another of these threads got shut down? Damn.

[IliyaMoroumetz]

See my sig? It's what EA does not have. That is a reason why some of us refuse to deal with Origin, regardless of whether it is spyware or not.

In addition, as noted by the (in)famous Jim Sterling, it's a poor attempt by EA to adhere to business practices that have bass-ackward logic in this day and age of instant gratification.

http://www.escapistm...kes-It-Stronger

Origin is a poorly disguised attempt by EA to try and prove it's Steam and Valve without having done any of the things which result in consumer good will. And because some people were stupid and purchased BF3 and TOR, it's like EA is saying to themselves that's it's perfectly fine to treat consumers like this and control them.

For your information, this isn't some kind of conspiracy. It's business in its ugliest form.

Modifié par IliyaMoroumetz, 31 janvier 2012 - 05:10 .

[Luan]

I don't give a crap where or how I get Mass Effect 3, as long as I get it. Of course, legitimately, BioWare can take all my money for this masterpiece.

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[Pcmag1]

http://gsngaming.com...8900#entry18900
In order to hack Origin all you need is date of birth and email address. Another reason Why I am not comfortable with Origin being mandatory to play ME3.

Modifié par Pcmag1, 31 janvier 2012 - 10:51 .

[tishyw]

dmex wrote...

tishyw wrote...

dmex wrote...

tishyw wrote...
so as long as Origin is happy with me never connecting it to the internet ever again after game activation, then I can live with it.

You'll just need to add the cd-key to your Origin account and run the game once (while online) for the activation to take place, after that, you're good to stay offline if you want 

"run the game once (while online)" - that's an interesting caveat, at what point can I turn off my router?  Can I turn it off after the menu screen is up, after I've imported a previous save, or do I have to have a least one save in ME3 before I can run the game without Origin needing to be connected to the internet?

 

Well, just as you start the game for the first time, you'll be prompted to activate, also at first startup some games have a security/anti-piracy feature that requires the user be online the first time they startup the game.

You should be able to 'turn your router off' as soon as the game menu is visible, after that initial start you won't need to be online again.

tishyw wrote... 
Also, why?  With Steam I can install my game, register it with Steam and then swtich Steam to off-line mode (and turn off my router) before I start the game, why is it different with Origin?

Right now, the API's and toolset are incomplete to enable this scenario similar to what Steam does, we want a better solution that's not impacted by compatibility due to publishers implementing the functionality now before it's stable and all bugs ironed out.

You can't build a house on wet cement and this is one area where we really need to make sure it's solid due to the importance of the features that will be relying upon this component.

Okay, that makes sense, thanks for letting me know.  Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, stupid real life getting in the way of my forum activities

[Kai Hohiro]

JasonDaPsycho wrote...

The reason why Origin is unpopular is because Steam has always been a great service.

ohohohohohoh

Sorry but this honestly cracked me up. Were you even there when Steam launched? Steam was universally reviled by the CS, TFC and HL communities in a way that doesn't even remotely compare to how people are reacting towards Origin.

It was a very unpopular, unstable and buggy DRM especially during a time where PC ressources were much more constrained than they are today.

Modifié par Kai Hohiro, 31 janvier 2012 - 12:47 .

[Metalrocks]

Kai Hohiro wrote...

JasonDaPsycho wrote...

The reason why Origin is unpopular is because Steam has always been a great service.

ohohohohohoh

Sorry but this honestly cracked me up. Were you even there when Steam launched? Steam was universally reviled by the CS, TFC and HL communities in a way that doesn't even remotely compare to how people are reacting towards Origin.

It was a very unpopular, unstable and buggy DRM especially during a time where PC ressources were much more constrained than they are today.

actually, i dint had any hassle either when steam came out. i installed my HL2, activated it, turned off the auto update option, and i could play it in offline mode.
since my pc never had a solid connection in that time, this way worked just fine. but yes, steam was far from perfect back then, i agree, but fixed it pretty quickly and now it is one of the best services you can get.

thats how i feel for steam:
www.youtube.com/watch

and thats hwo i feel for €A and orgin
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch

[dmex]

Metalrocks wrote...
fixed it pretty quickly and now it is one of the best services you can get. 

If you call five years quick 

[wolfsite]

dmex wrote...

Metalrocks wrote...
fixed it pretty quickly and now it is one of the best services you can get. 

If you call five years quick 

Hey, they run on "Valve Time"  Remember that

[Metalrocks]

dmex wrote...

Metalrocks wrote...
fixed it pretty quickly and now it is one of the best services you can get. 

If you call five years quick 

lol, like i said, i personally dint had any problems with steam at that time.

Modifié par Metalrocks, 31 janvier 2012 - 03:32 .

[WaffleCrab]

I am rather happy actually that Origin is there, no need to have a disc spinning in the drive all the time, not to mention lately steam has been hogging memory like a hog, up to 140mb if i am in game, as where origin takes only about 55mb when i am in game. Not sure how it works for XP, but that is the mem. usage for me on a dual core system and Win7 64 bit.

[WaffleCrab]

Kai Hohiro wrote...

JasonDaPsycho wrote...

The reason why Origin is unpopular is because Steam has always been a great service.

ohohohohohoh

Sorry but this honestly cracked me up. Were you even there when Steam launched? Steam was universally reviled by the CS, TFC and HL communities in a way that doesn't even remotely compare to how people are reacting towards Origin.

It was a very unpopular, unstable and buggy DRM especially during a time where PC ressources were much more constrained than they are today.

heh i remember that time too  

i remember being the owner of a crappy fujitsu siemens desktop PC at that time with a crappy 1,6ghz celeron processor. even at that time with an Nvidia Ti4200 was not enough to off set the strain the steam alone put on the gaming when it was running. I remember this one occasion when i was playing cs_militia in the original CS, and the PC would start lagging each time i started unloading my autoshotgun 

I was baffled at how much it constricted the PC, i think i had to bring down all graphics options by a notch or 2 just to get the game running at smooth fps. :S

[IliyaMoroumetz]

dmex wrote...

If you call five years quick 

Well, considering how much time EA could have used to emulate all the things Steam did right, EA has no excuse.

[LittleDiegito]

CenturyCrow wrote...

Yes, I looked up the contact addresses for both EA and BW and sent letters there. Just haven't heard back from EA or BioWare on on the question of Origin (sent November 14, 2011). Maybe I'll send them again.

Note that I have written corporations before and recieved a reply, including a great letter from the BioWare regarding Dragon Age 2.

Thank you CenturyCrow. I have sent my letters (a hand written one and a typed copy in case they cant read my chicken scratch in each envelope). I dont expect a reply but hopefully that I took the time to hand write a letter will give a little more weight to them.

[N0-Future]

Makes you wonder why EA doesn't implement the Eula that their using in Germany for the whole world?
If its good enough for them its good enough for everyone... except its a lot more restrictive for EA, funny that.

[maddragon151]

well we all knew it would happen and i must admit it gives me a excuse to actualy play agame on my xbox360 again
sadly ea has done to many bad things through there time and i can understand why many dont trust them.

tho i have to bloody play me1-2 on 360 to get my save games to where i have them on my pc

well hope u guys wil enjoy the game in how ever way u wil do it


MD