do you hate elves?
#76
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 12:38
I've never met an elf I didn't like
#77
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 01:51
Generally I dislike them, they almost always seem like stroke material to me. Starting in LotR, they're generally beautiful, long-lived (sometimes actually immortal), sophisticated, intelligent, powerful and peaceful (by preference).
In Dragon Age they seemed more "interesting", than most other depictions I've seen. The treatment they got in DA2 made me like them even more, I wish they'd maintained a higher quality of imaging for them but stylistically I found the new look pleasing.
Culturally they're intriguing: run down and trying to get by, or fiercely independent and trying to regain what they imagine they've lost. A nice contrast.
#78
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 02:06
Man, in Skyrim, The witcher 2, people, dude elves are nice, in DA2 people, dude elves suck, is it so hard to accept this opinion ? Get over yourself. I didn't give my opinion to launch a fanboy debate.Masako52 wrote...
Sylvianus wrote...
People can complain about DA2 elves, because they look bad and alien. I'd take at any day, skyrim's design over DA2's design. The design in Skyrim, accurate and different, is simply beautiful.
I don't need to have elves beautiful, and I find besides many beautiful with their own aspect. I am glad they broke the cliche about elves, poor pretty things effeminate, poor victims.
The Skyrim elves are beautiful...?! I think that's the first time I've ever heard anyone say that, lol. I think they're hideous, haha.
Man, people, dude elves don't have beards, they look lithe and feminine, that's just what elves are! I'd cry if DA gave male elves beards, or any other facial hair. And they are supposed to be pretty (still don't see why so many people are mad about the DA2 elves, but won't get into that ****** - Merrill and Fenris are gorgeous to me, anyway)! Besides, you can be pretty and still be a man, you know.
When did I say that a man can't be pretty and still be a man ?
Modifié par Sylvianus, 29 janvier 2012 - 02:11 .
#79
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 03:36
Witcher 2 i accept But skyrim elves are jerksSylvianus wrote...
Man, in Skyrim, The witcher 2, people, dude elves are nice, in DA2 people, dude elves suck, is it so hard to accept this opinion ? Get over yourself. I didn't give my opinion to launch a fanboy debate.Masako52 wrote...
Sylvianus wrote...
People can complain about DA2 elves, because they look bad and alien. I'd take at any day, skyrim's design over DA2's design. The design in Skyrim, accurate and different, is simply beautiful.
I don't need to have elves beautiful, and I find besides many beautiful with their own aspect. I am glad they broke the cliche about elves, poor pretty things effeminate, poor victims.
The Skyrim elves are beautiful...?! I think that's the first time I've ever heard anyone say that, lol. I think they're hideous, haha.
Man, people, dude elves don't have beards, they look lithe and feminine, that's just what elves are! I'd cry if DA gave male elves beards, or any other facial hair. And they are supposed to be pretty (still don't see why so many people are mad about the DA2 elves, but won't get into that ****** - Merrill and Fenris are gorgeous to me, anyway)! Besides, you can be pretty and still be a man, you know.
When did I say that a man can't be pretty and still be a man ?it is about cliche, elves are always poor pretty things effeminate. I am glad, I see some things different in other games. Understood, now ?
#80
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 04:43
#81
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 05:40
I'm not a fan of the same thing happening in every game I play with elves in them.
#82
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 05:53
#83
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 06:08
chance52 wrote...
I hate that they are used the same way in almost every game. Subjugated by the evil humans and the best archers ever.
I'm not a fan of the same thing happening in every game I play with elves in them.
Elves in The Elder Scrolls are different in that. Dunmer (Dark Elves) aren't evil, but stoic and traditional. They supported slavery until recently, use giant insects as a means of local transportation in their weird country (Morrowind)... by carving their shells out for 'passangers' and frickin' 'steering' them by using their intestines...
Bosmer (Wood Elves) are supposed to be great archers... and are very eco-friendly. Extremely so, in that they try to avoid harming plants and trees and strictly base their diet on meat. They also typically refuse to use wood in their culture and craft their bows and weapons with bended bones.
Oh, and they're also cannibals. They eat the people they kill.
Bethesda should totally do or let Obsidian do a more story-driven Elder Scrolls spin-off.
#84
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Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 06:08
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Modifié par PurebredCorn, 29 janvier 2012 - 06:09 .
#85
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 06:46
Fisto The Sexbot wrote...
chance52 wrote...
I hate that they are used the same way in almost every game. Subjugated by the evil humans and the best archers ever.
I'm not a fan of the same thing happening in every game I play with elves in them.
Elves in The Elder Scrolls are different in that. Dunmer (Dark Elves) aren't evil, but stoic and traditional. They supported slavery until recently, use giant insects as a means of local transportation in their weird country (Morrowind)... by carving their shells out for 'passangers' and frickin' 'steering' them by using their intestines...
Bosmer (Wood Elves) are supposed to be great archers... and are very eco-friendly. Extremely so, in that they try to avoid harming plants and trees and strictly base their diet on meat. They also typically refuse to use wood in their culture and craft their bows and weapons with bended bones.
Oh, and they're also cannibals. They eat the people they kill.
Bethesda should totally do or let Obsidian do a more story-driven Elder Scrolls spin-off.
I knew I was missing something by ignoring a lot of the books I pick up in The Elder Scrolls. I try to read them all at first but every location you go to you find a dozen new books and I quickly go to ignoring them and just talking to NPC's for info.
#86
Posté 29 janvier 2012 - 11:13
I really like the elves in LoTR and Skyrim. I didn't like the Thalmor of course, but that was because they're a bunch of bigoted zealots, not because they're elves.
The only elves I really don't like in general are the Dragon Age elves. They almost all seem to be either whiny, hostile, or both. Zevran is the only elf I can really stand to be around.
#87
Posté 03 février 2012 - 10:09
#88
Posté 04 février 2012 - 03:02
They are mainly High Elves but there are other High Elves in the game that are not with the Thalmor so you are hating an entire race based on a facist organization.
Also Elder Scrolls has different types of Elves and some extinct
High Elf (Altmer)
Dak Elf (Dunmer)
Wood Elf (Bosmer)
Orc (Orsimer)
Other Elfs too like
Dwemer
Falmer
Adlmer
Aylied
Sounds like you are just a racist human.
#89
Posté 05 février 2012 - 03:41
Generally though I do play elves mostly, in other settings like D&D, Middle Earth, etc. where they are handled better. The elven people stemming from Nordic mythos are the ones I like best.
#90
Posté 07 février 2012 - 02:31
thats1evildude wrote...
City Elf for life, yo.
I second this! I hope to play one again in a future DA game...
#91
Posté 07 février 2012 - 02:33
PrinceLionheart wrote...
I like elves well enough, but I do agree the "One with nature, supreme archer" archetype has gotten old. That's why I preferred the City Elf Origin in DAO.
I agree! The City Elf origin was a unique reversal of the usual fantasy tropes.
#92
Posté 07 février 2012 - 03:00
I want to be able to recover their old glory.
I don't like playing as a dwarf, though; they are too short.
#93
Posté 07 février 2012 - 04:14


#94
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Posté 07 février 2012 - 07:20
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#95
Posté 07 février 2012 - 07:42
#96
Posté 07 février 2012 - 11:05
#97
Posté 08 février 2012 - 12:23
And if we really really really for some reason need to have elves, I am all for departure from the Tolkienesque design, and moving them closer to their fey origins - more primal, savage and outlandish, unbound by human morality, neither good nor evil, one moment aloof, cold and distant, the very next moment sharp, focused, fierce and oozing intensity. Make them alien, yet relatable.
Anything but these human clones, please.
Still a bit too humanish, but on the right track in my opinion
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Modifié par Mr Fixit, 08 février 2012 - 12:44 .
#98
Posté 08 février 2012 - 04:16
Any way if you wonder why this elves are more beautiful and better with bows than humans .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf
Da2 elves are nothing like the norse described yes they* ( * the Norse) mention "short elves" but they are still described as more beautiful than humans and da2 elves are not beautiful.
#99
Posté 08 février 2012 - 04:25
In anime, the female ones can be pretty damn cute!
#100
Posté 08 février 2012 - 06:54





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