AdmiralCheez wrote...
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
AdmiralCheez wrote...
You're just going to put up with the fact that I am god damn fabulous, Lemon.AgitatedLemon wrote...
Clearly so, since you dodged the point I was going to make like a speeding bullet.
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
But we like Miranda anyway. And I liked that Tali and Garrus became romance options, even though it would have never happened had the community not begged for it.
Talking about Miranda's ass and Samara's breasts is getting the thread to a better place?AlanC9 wrote...
I still maintain that Dat Ass was actually contained in high-tech armor. Unlike,say, Samara's breasts.AdmiralCheez wrote...
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
(Just trying to get the thread to a better place)
AdmiralCheez wrote...
You're just going to put up with the fact that I am god damn fabulous, Lemon.AgitatedLemon wrote...
Clearly so, since you dodged the point I was going to make like a speeding bullet.
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
But we like Miranda anyway. And I liked that Tali and Garrus became romance options, even though it would have never happened had the community not begged for it.
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Dat BosomAlanC9 wrote...
AdmiralCheez wrote...
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
I still maintain that Dat Ass was actually contained in high-tech armor. Unlike,say, Samara's breasts.
(Just trying to get the thread to a better place)
Collider wrote...
Talking about Miranda's ass and Samara's breasts is getting the thread to a better place?
Cheez is a BSN celebrity, very much so. Almost as much as our mutual friend GMagnum.AgitatedLemon wrote...
AdmiralCheez wrote...
You're just going to put up with the fact that I am god damn fabulous, Lemon.AgitatedLemon wrote...
Clearly so, since you dodged the point I was going to make like a speeding bullet.
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
But we like Miranda anyway. And I liked that Tali and Garrus became romance options, even though it would have never happened had the community not begged for it.
Because Miranda is definitely not a respectable character, by any means. All that dialogue she gave about her backstory and personal flaws were just filler for the engine room. Heaven forbid I (And the other .0003% of her fanbase) like her for who she is.
And stop being so goddamn pretentious, you aren't a celebrity.
Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...
Cheez is a BSN celebrity, very much so. Almost as much as our mutual friend GMagnum.AgitatedLemon wrote...
AdmiralCheez wrote...
You're just going to put up with the fact that I am god damn fabulous, Lemon.AgitatedLemon wrote...
Clearly so, since you dodged the point I was going to make like a speeding bullet.
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
But we like Miranda anyway. And I liked that Tali and Garrus became romance options, even though it would have never happened had the community not begged for it.
Because Miranda is definitely not a respectable character, by any means. All that dialogue she gave about her backstory and personal flaws were just filler for the engine room. Heaven forbid I (And the other .0003% of her fanbase) like her for who she is.
And stop being so goddamn pretentious, you aren't a celebrity.
Cool character.Flashflame58 wrote...
Yeah, bro!Collider wrote...
Is that Arcade Gannon?Flashflame58 wrote...
BioWare has their reasons.
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves. GMagnum's fame is immesurableShifty-looking Chicken wrote...
Cheez is a BSN celebrity, very much so. Almost as much as our mutual friend GMagnum.
Modifié par jreezy, 29 janvier 2012 - 05:42 .
I did say "almost"; that does imply less.jreezy wrote...
Lets not get ahead of ourselves. GMagnum's fame is immesurableShifty-looking Chicken wrote...
Cheez is a BSN celebrity, very much so. Almost as much as our mutual friend GMagnum.
AlanC9 wrote...
I still maintain that Dat Ass was actually contained in high-tech armor. Unlike,say, Samara's breasts.AdmiralCheez wrote...
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
(Just trying to get the thread to a better place)
I said Dat Ass, not the character that it belonged to. Miranda was great, but her presentation was... how shall put it? Panderliscious? Now, Bioware could have opted to not treat her like a walking pinup, to let her character speak for itself, but they didn't. And it's stupid. But still, we like Miranda and we're glad she's a squadmate, and it's not like there aren't those among us that didn't appreciate bathing in the light of a glorious full moon.AgitatedLemon wrote...
Because Miranda is definitely not a respectable character, by any means. All that dialogue she gave about her backstory and personal flaws were just filler for the engine room. Heaven forbid I (And the other .0003% of her fanbase) like her for who she is.
Quiet, you're ruining my delusions of grandeur.And stop being so goddamn pretentious, you aren't a celebrity.
who needs silicone when you can have eezo cores imlanted?nitefyre410 wrote...
Little do many know that Samara breast create there own Mass Effect fields and need no protection for they are a weapon of Galactic distructions... yes those breast are that damn powerful.AlanC9 wrote...
I still maintain that Dat Ass was actually contained in high-tech armor. Unlike,say, Samara's breasts.AdmiralCheez wrote...
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
(Just trying to get the thread to a better place)
Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...
Cheez is a BSN celebrity, very much so. Almost as much as our mutual friend GMagnum.AgitatedLemon wrote...
AdmiralCheez wrote...
You're just going to put up with the fact that I am god damn fabulous, Lemon.AgitatedLemon wrote...
Clearly so, since you dodged the point I was going to make like a speeding bullet.
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
But we like Miranda anyway. And I liked that Tali and Garrus became romance options, even though it would have never happened had the community not begged for it.
Because Miranda is definitely not a respectable character, by any means. All that dialogue she gave about her backstory and personal flaws were just filler for the engine room. Heaven forbid I (And the other .0003% of her fanbase) like her for who she is.
And stop being so goddamn pretentious, you aren't a celebrity.
Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 29 janvier 2012 - 05:49 .
I don't think you can deny that Garrus is returning because he's a fan favorite, given that fandom was the stated reason for Garrus and Tali's appearance in ME2.AdmiralCheez wrote...
Says the fan of the most fanservicey character in the games so far.AgitatedLemon wrote...
Fan service is a glorious thing.
Seriously, this is how it ALWAYS goes: Bioware does something that will please some/most people, but not you, it's "stupid fanservice." But when they do what YOU want, even though it pisses OTHER people off, it's "taking fan feedback into account/good writing."
EVERY. DAMN. FANGROUP does this.
AdmiralCheez wrote...
I said Dat Ass, not the character that it belonged to. Miranda was great, but her presentation was... how shall put it? Panderliscious? Now, Bioware could have opted to not treat her like a walking pinup, to let her character speak for itself, but they didn't. And it's stupid. But still, we like Miranda and we're glad she's a squadmate, and it's not like there aren't those among us that didn't appreciate bathing in the light of a glorious full moon.AgitatedLemon wrote...
Because Miranda is definitely not a respectable character, by any means. All that dialogue she gave about her backstory and personal flaws were just filler for the engine room. Heaven forbid I (And the other .0003% of her fanbase) like her for who she is.
Ooh, and boobies. Yay boobies!
*cough*
My point is that fanservice doesn't necessarily break a game. Yeah, I'm kind of bummed that Wrex, Mordin, Legion, Jack, Samara, Thane, Kasumi, and all the rest of my bros didn't make the cut. But that doesn't mean those characters don't matter anymore, and it's not like I don't appreciate having Ash, Kaidan, Liara, Garrus, and Tali back. Plus, the new guys will be a blast to pal around with, so long as the script isn't a horrible, rotten liar.Quiet, you're ruining my delusions of grandeur.And stop being so goddamn pretentious, you aren't a celebrity.
bobobo878 wrote...
who needs silicone when you can have eezo cores imlanted?nitefyre410 wrote...
Little do many know that Samara breast create there own Mass Effect fields and need no protection for they are a weapon of Galactic distructions... yes those breast are that damn powerful.AlanC9 wrote...
I still maintain that Dat Ass was actually contained in high-tech armor. Unlike,say, Samara's breasts.AdmiralCheez wrote...
But you cannot deny that Dat Ass contributed very little to story integrity, much less the tight spandex it was wrapped in.
(Just trying to get the thread to a better place)
Modifié par nitefyre410, 29 janvier 2012 - 05:53 .
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It also implies that it's close. We are talking about GMagnum here. Cheez is good but she's no GMagnum tbh.Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...
I did say "almost"; that does imply less.jreezy wrote...
Lets not get ahead of ourselves. GMagnum's fame is immesurableShifty-looking Chicken wrote...
Cheez is a BSN celebrity, very much so. Almost as much as our mutual friend GMagnum.
He's lying. You are too a celebrity.AdmiralCheez wrote...
Quiet, you're ruining my delusions of grandeur.And stop being so goddamn pretentious, you aren't a celebrity.
No, you just don't get it! She dresses in a spandex catsuit because her dad bioengineered her to have a perfect figure, and she wants to show off genetic engineering's potential to better humanity. Her looks, her biotics, and lifespan are all gifts from her father and she has defined her entire life by looking for practical ways to put his gifts to good use. When she is negotiating, she uses her shapely figure to seduce whoever she is talking to, but than she acts all cold to them because she doesn't want to overdo it and... **** it, I've got nothing.AdmiralCheez wrote...
I said Dat Ass, not the character that it belonged to. Miranda was great, but her presentation was... how shall put it? Panderliscious? Now, Bioware could have opted to not treat her like a walking pinup, to let her character speak for itself, but they didn't. And it's stupid. But still, we like Miranda and we're glad she's a squadmate, and it's not like there aren't those among us that didn't appreciate bathing in the light of a glorious full moon.
Ooh, and boobies. Yay boobies!
Ravensword wrote...
AdmiralCheez wrote...
I said Dat Ass, not the character that it belonged to. Miranda was great, but her presentation was... how shall put it? Panderliscious? Now, Bioware could have opted to not treat her like a walking pinup, to let her character speak for itself, but they didn't. And it's stupid. But still, we like Miranda and we're glad she's a squadmate, and it's not like there aren't those among us that didn't appreciate bathing in the light of a glorious full moon.AgitatedLemon wrote...
Because Miranda is definitely not a respectable character, by any means. All that dialogue she gave about her backstory and personal flaws were just filler for the engine room. Heaven forbid I (And the other .0003% of her fanbase) like her for who she is.
Ooh, and boobies. Yay boobies!
*cough*
My point is that fanservice doesn't necessarily break a game. Yeah, I'm kind of bummed that Wrex, Mordin, Legion, Jack, Samara, Thane, Kasumi, and all the rest of my bros didn't make the cut. But that doesn't mean those characters don't matter anymore, and it's not like I don't appreciate having Ash, Kaidan, Liara, Garrus, and Tali back. Plus, the new guys will be a blast to pal around with, so long as the script isn't a horrible, rotten liar.Quiet, you're ruining my delusions of grandeur.And stop being so goddamn pretentious, you aren't a celebrity.
Cheez is the most reasonable person on BSN.
MOST of the ME2 cast contributed very little to ME2's main story. We could have had just Miranda (pro Cerb), Jack (anti Cerb), Mordin (other side of genophage conflict), and Legion (other side of geth conflict). But everyone else had great character arcs, which, in my opinion, WERE ME2's story. I liked having them aboard, and busting up Omega, hunting down Sidonis, fighting my way through Haestrom, and gettin' sassy with the quarian admiralty board was hella fun.Dean_the_Young wrote...
I don't think you can deny that Garrus is returning because he's a fan favorite, given that fandom was the stated reason for Garrus and Tali's appearance in ME2.
Awesome bro points and throwing a bone to ME1 players wasn't "seeking approval via a certain reaction from the audience?"Characters have to contribute to the story to be warranted. They're simply too much an investment to do otherwise. A character can have merit based on their addition to the storylines (the VS), their function as a plot device (Liara), their expansion of the lore (Vega as the 'new guy' viewpoint to introduce/reintroduce many things), or seeking the approval via a certain reaction from the audience (lust, from Miranda in ME2).
I honestly think that the revenge vs forgiveness/mercy vs justice plotline that Garrus brought to the table was one of the most powerful and interesting diversions ME2 offered. It made me think, but more importantly, it made me feel. That made a difference in the story for me and for a lot of people that never even touched ME1.As a character, however, Garrus doesn't bring much except his fanbase. Garrus was never a codex on legs or a lore source: he told tales of his personal adventures, but never much about the Turian Heirarchy. Garrus has not lingering storyline, bar possibly a romance: the 'I'll go join the Spectres/C-SEC' was jetissoned in order to reuse him in ME2, and the Sidonis issue was the last loose end of everything but helping Shepard. Garrus has no basis or foreshadowing as being a key plot device (as a killable character, he can't be), and is highly unlikely to bring a new viewpoint to old issues given his character is a 'old war buddy' sort with a theme of continuity.
Like I said, over half of ME2's squadmates could have been cut (and you may have thought it a better game for it), but I personally liked that they were included. The squad was the reason I enjoyed ME2 so much.Garrus doesn't add much to the story, or the narrative, or even to the combat that couldn't be covered by most other ME2 companions. The primary thing that sets Garrus apart is the size of his fanbase.
It's a shame, but it's more true than not.
That may have worked, but then I wouldn't have got to shag him.(Personally, I would have kept Garrus out of ME2 and brought him back in ME3 as either a C-SEC officer or SPECTRE to help Shepard. The whole vigilante/sidonis thing was pretty superficial for Garrus in the first place, and there's no reason to open him up to being killed and deny the player a ME3 companion.)
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