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#151
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iRAWRasaurusREX wrote...

Lol I meant not complaining but you can always hope! Well If they are dead, it will give people a chance to replay Me2 in order to keep them alive. If I remember correctly Miranda was pretty hard to kill. DLC=money soo dont see how its a bad idea, but everyone has their own opinions.


"Downloadable squadmate: Miranda Lawson"
Price: 560 MS Points

"Warning: This squadmate can be dead in certain imported saves.
Check your save before purchasing."

That would look funny, wouldn´t it?

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well no cause she is not dead in my saves, you made a thread about this and I answer. 
Sorry if I have a different opinion then you :?

Modifié par iRAWRasaurusREX, 12 février 2012 - 06:32 .


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I usually try to avoid topics that have the word 'Anti' in them or character bashing topics but I will make an exception here because the confirmed ( how the hell did Jack end up on this list by the way, is it because she is the only ME2 squadmate to get a re-design ) squadmate list for ME3 is my biggest pet hate about ME3.

I am really, really unhappy with the confirmed list of squadmates.

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iRAWRasaurusREX wrote...

 Yes cause she is not dead, you made a thread about this and I answer. 
Sorry if I have a different opinion then you :?


What? No, you misunderstood. I was just presenting why it wouldn´t work.
Trust me, i would have the DLC too, but it´s simply impossible.

And if you have Miranda live in your save, that´s good.
I have too. But a sad fact is that even though how plot-relevant charcater she is and how hard it is for her to die in the SM, some people do ahve her dead in their saves.

Modifié par Hillbillyshep, 12 février 2012 - 06:36 .


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The squad is massively biased towards ME1, why make all these far more interesting charcters in ME2 then not use them? Soo stoopid

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The ME3 squad consists of the most plot-relevant characters. Pray tell, how in blazes are Kasumi, Zaeed, Jack, and the other mercenaries and psychopaths in the ME2 squad (though admittedly good mercenaries and psychopaths) relevant to the ME3 plot? How does Kasumi, a selfish thief, care about stopping the Reapers? Compare her to Tali, whose pilgrimage was solely based on stopping Saren and the Reaper invasion.

I'm waiting...

Modifié par saracen16, 12 février 2012 - 06:45 .


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Maybe they care cause if the reapers win, everyone is dead?

but I do think Kasumi plays a important role with a certain home world.

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iRAWRasaurusREX wrote...

Maybe they care cause if the reapers win, everyone is dead?

but I do think Kasumi plays a important role with a certain home world.


I'm not asking for second guesses. I want proof from what has been established so far.

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saracen16 wrote...

The ME3 squad consists of the most plot-relevant characters. Pray tell, how in blazes are Kasumi, Zaeed, Jack, and the other mercenaries and psychopaths in the ME2 squad (though admittedly good mercenaries and psychopaths) relevant to the ME3 plot? How does Kasumi, a selfish thief, care about stopping the Reapers? Compare her to Tali, whose pilgrimage was solely based on stopping Saren and the Reaper invasion.

I'm waiting...


How is Garrus plot relevant? How is Tali relevant beyond the quarian/geth mission?
Plus there's plenty of me2 squaddies with interest in the major Cerberus arc in ME3.
Plus it is a galactic extinction war, it is of concern to everyone.

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saracen16 wrote...

iRAWRasaurusREX wrote...

Maybe they care cause if the reapers win, everyone is dead?

but I do think Kasumi plays a important role with a certain home world.


I'm not asking for second guesses. I want proof from what has been established so far.


Read the leak scripts. or just wait for another 4 weeks. 

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wright1978 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

The ME3 squad consists of the most plot-relevant characters. Pray tell, how in blazes are Kasumi, Zaeed, Jack, and the other mercenaries and psychopaths in the ME2 squad (though admittedly good mercenaries and psychopaths) relevant to the ME3 plot? How does Kasumi, a selfish thief, care about stopping the Reapers? Compare her to Tali, whose pilgrimage was solely based on stopping Saren and the Reaper invasion.

I'm waiting...


How is Garrus plot relevant? How is Tali relevant beyond the quarian/geth mission?
Plus there's plenty of me2 squaddies with interest in the major Cerberus arc in ME3.
Plus it is a galactic extinction war, it is of concern to everyone.


As much as I like Garrus ( pretty much the only 1 on the ME3 squad that I like ) I am wondering about this to. technically you can beat ME1 without recruiting him ( although I wonder who in thier right mind would do this ) and in ME2 the only thing he does is try to get the guy who betrayed his squad and calibrate the Normandys guns alot, he has almost no character development in ME2, he's just there to be so that Bioware can say that an Me1 squadmate came back. I fail to see how he fits into the big picture as far as ME3's plot is concerned. To make matters worse, like all the other ME2 squadmates he can die in the Suicide Mission at the end of ME2. Why is it that Bioware can waste resources in ME3 to make Garrus and Tali squadmates and yet when it comes to the rest of the ME2 squad they hide behind that crappy 'it's because all the squadmates in ME2 can die in the Suicide Mission' excuse.

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wright1978 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

The ME3 squad consists of the most plot-relevant characters. Pray tell, how in blazes are Kasumi, Zaeed, Jack, and the other mercenaries and psychopaths in the ME2 squad (though admittedly good mercenaries and psychopaths) relevant to the ME3 plot? How does Kasumi, a selfish thief, care about stopping the Reapers? Compare her to Tali, whose pilgrimage was solely based on stopping Saren and the Reaper invasion.

I'm waiting...


How is Garrus plot relevant? How is Tali relevant beyond the quarian/geth mission?
Plus there's plenty of me2 squaddies with interest in the major Cerberus arc in ME3.
Plus it is a galactic extinction war, it is of concern to everyone.


I'll give you this save for one thing: what about the specific examples I mentioned?

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-VS I like them on the squad because I hope they will continue to distrust you making a more interesting dynamic
-I don't mind Garrus because give his previous actions I doubt he has anywhere else to go but I hope he becomes more interesting
-I refuse to judge Vega until I play the game
- Male spoiler could be interesting
-Female spoiler is an awful idea
- Tali shouldn't be on the squad given the geth/quarian plot
-I want the option to punch Liara after making her the shadow broker and she just abondons it
I'm annoyed that no me2 exclusive are on the squad
 
@saracen16 Kasumi's graybox could be very relevant

Modifié par mechstone, 12 février 2012 - 08:42 .


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Lolz. I like the line up.

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Swap Liara for Miranda (Liara is the SB, she should be feeding Shepard intel, or feeding his enemies false intel), and swap Tali with Legion (IMO, he's much more important to the geth/quarian conflict, as he's the only non-hostile geth outside geth space)

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Ok... so Shep can't have a friend in his/her squad because they aren't plot relevant?

If it was up to me, everyone would be in the squad.
I'm happy with the ME3 squad as it is, and I'd be happy if it were different, because I like them all.
This thread looks like "My favourite character isn't a squadmate"

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im mostly happy with the squad im just annoyed that instead of throwing in one me2 exclusive they give us.......... team dextro again, but ive already voiced this before and all i got in return is "garrus is awesome and he is better than everyone" and " tali is cute and she has some plot relevance so shes in" so team dextro gets 3 games and im sure after me3 the dextro monkeys will be nagging bioware for garrus and tali dlc

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I'm very pleased with how they've handled the overcrowding issue, given that I couldn't see how else you'd manage a potentially 16 strong squad without throwing the blanket over ME2 to some degree.

ME1 squad + new characters makes sense to me.

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In ME3 we would most likely to need to gain/regain the support of the Asari, Turian, Salarian, Krogan, Quarian, Geth and possibly the Rachni so Bioware had to select characters based on their importance toward the story.

I would add Mordin, legion and Wrex into the ME3 squad and leave it alone. This way we get representative from all major conflicts: Geth vs. Quarians and Krogan vs. Salarians while still having personal connections to the Asari (Liara) and Turian (Garrus).

Most of the ME2 squad members can actually have very little impact on how the story in ME3 will turn out. Jack, Kasumi, Zaeed and Grunt will have very little political powers/influences to change any events, Thane will die very soon, Jacob and Miranda are unfortunately ex-Cerberus by the end of ME2 and will not have any impact on Cerberus actions in ME3. Plus any vital information regarding Cerberus can come from either Liara or EDI. The influence of Samara is not as explored in the past games so I can't say anything for her.

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Comsky159 wrote...

I'm very pleased with how they've handled the overcrowding issue, given that I couldn't see how else you'd manage a potentially 16 strong squad without throwing the blanket over ME2 to some degree.

ME1 squad + new characters makes sense to me.

How does it make sense to ignore me2 characters especially when you consider some people will have only played me2?

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Like Liara, VS, Garrus, Tali. They're you know... Shepard's squad. They've known each other since the 1st game and my Shep will gladly take them abord the Normandy... hate the rest though.

***HUGE SPOILERS***

1st EDI? WTF? Why and how whould EDI be a squadmate... this is the dumbest thing I heard. Now I like EDI.... as the Normandy's AI but as a "robot" squadmate...Image IPB

2nd Prothean? WTF? While kind of cool that theres a Prothean I kinda find it odd that he survived for 50 000 years. I don't know if I just need to wait for the game but I have a feeling it'll be something like "Oh hey! I was just frozen is cryo for 50 000 years... and I know how to stop the Reapers" I have a feeling that something like this will play out and it just seems cheesy.

3rd Jack? ..... really? Sorry Jack fans but out of all the great character's in ME2 we got Jack? Image IPB I very much dislike Jack.. Killed her off in some of my playthrough too.

4th Vega... well I guess I don't HATE him but really I have no want for a stereotypical, unrealistically big, die hard Gears of War style marine... He just seems completely useless.


*** END SPOILERS ***

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

Modifié par xlI ReFLeX lIx, 12 février 2012 - 11:03 .


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Apparently, some people are claiming that Jack isn't a squadmate.

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How do people think that bioware should have do it? Give all Squadies from ME1 and 2 back full time?
Here is how I look at this characters that for plot reasons should be off the squad and my reason

1.Liara:As the Shadow Broker she should be confined to either the Normandy or SB-Ship. TIm and the Council weren't Squadies Liara is best squited in a non combat role.
2.Mordin: STG and Genophage plot. Also in Deception the Salarian council member begain to believe in the Reaper theory Maybe Mordin a well respected STG was sending him data and info while working with Cerberus and Shepard. Best suited else where for plot?
3.Wrex: Keep him were he is or else it's a betrarual of not only his character but of his place among the Krogan.
4.Morinth: she'd flee first chance she got,

As far as everyone else goes Bioware could have easily made them full time crew members and sqaudies, but had higher priorities than that so they just gave Garrus and Tali the pass so they could work on calibrating Multiplayer and 3 stupid game modes to try and get a bigger audience. If they wanted to please their fans they'd give them as many of the Squadies and Crew of ME1 and 2 as possible so no one has hurt feelings.
This is a fact.

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XX55XX wrote...

Apparently, some people are claiming that Jack isn't a squadmate.


God I hope so..

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XX55XX wrote...

Apparently, some people are claiming that Jack isn't a squadmate.


She's not.

Where are people getting her being a squaddie from? :blink: