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[AnsinJung]

CSunkyst wrote...

why does this have to be some kind of feminist conspiracy??? I'm a dude, and I like the red hair a lot more.

Same for me.  Red hair is beautiful.  Not Ronald Weasley, though.


Several generations later: 
"Hermione Ginger"

[Iron Spetsnaz]

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

aye dun mattr 2 me cuz da femshep hella fine no mattr da hair color tbh

As usual, GMagnum is the voice of reason.

Bull****, GMag would be the voice of reason if HE WROTE IN PROPER ENGLISH AND NOT IN ****ING TEXT-SPEAK

[Abraham_uk]

Stardusk78 wrote...

they turned her into a redhead?

Is there any truth to this?

It is true. Question answered.

[ObserverStatus]

Conspiracy Keanu approves of this topic.

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

aye dun mattr 2 me cuz da femshep hella fine no mattr da hair color tbh

As usual, GMagnum is the voice of reason.

Bull****, GMag would be the voice of reason if HE WROTE IN PROPER ENGLISH AND NOT IN ****ING TEXT-SPEAK

His manner of speech is part of what makes him so great.

[Gill Kaiser]

The blonde had a good hairstyle, so some of her votes were for the hairstyle rather than just the colour. The second poll provided the same hairstyle in a variety of haircolours, and red won.

[What a Succulent Ass]

...Kaiser, for a second, I thought your avatar was a picture of a reaper about to fly out of a uterus.

I was seriously in pain.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 29 janvier 2012 - 11:31 .

[Sebbe1337o]

Poll 1:
Appearance, hair colour not important, just hair style.
Poll 2:
Hair and eye colour.

I think BW planned it to be 2 polls all along. People just misinterpreted it.

[XEdge]

I just wish we could take the default redhead/green eyes Femshep and customize certain aspects like hair style/color and eye color.

I liked the blonde Femshep........

[slimgrin]

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

His manner of speech is part of what makes him so great.

GMAG b da man, da voice of reezon and a grayt sport on top uv it all. I respekt 'im. 

Modifié par slimgrin, 29 janvier 2012 - 11:39 .

[Yuqi]

Anthropophobic wrote...

Jennifer Hale said that she liked the ginger, so I think it worked out well, anyway. She has done such a good job as FemShep, so it makes sense.

The whole idea of putting what FemShep looked like to a popular vote was a disaster anyway, IMO. The majority of gamers are dudes.

That is changing quickly..

And hair colour..really..that is so juvinile.

Modifié par Yuqi, 29 janvier 2012 - 11:40 .

[PrinceLionheart]

Actually I found the entire contest ironically hypocritical. After all the whining over how Miranda's (and to a lesser degree Ashley's) hairstyle was impractical, the community voted for the FemShep with the long, flowing, super-model hair. And then there was MORE whining because somehow Blonde females don't match the archetype of the strong empowering female.

The whole thing was just idiotic.

Sebbe1337o wrote...

Poll 1:
Appearance, hair colour not important, just hair style.
Poll 2:
Hair and eye colour.

I think BW planned it to be 2 polls all along. People just misinterpreted it.

Problem
is they never announced there was going to be more than one poll, and
only did so after the collective *****ing took place on the forums.

Modifié par PrinceLionheart, 29 janvier 2012 - 11:43 .

[nitefyre410]

Ear length red hair is long flowing red hair... hmmm who have thought

[Darth Death]

That contest was a disappointment. The most generic design was chosen to be femshep.

[Bryzon]

I voted for black Fem-Shep with Rihanna hair.

Modifié par Bryzon, 29 janvier 2012 - 11:54 .

[slimgrin]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Actually I found the entire contest ironically hypocritical. After all the whining over how Miranda's (and to a lesser degree Ashley's) hairstyle was impractical, the community voted for the FemShep with the long, flowing, super-model hair. And then there was MORE whining because somehow Blonde females don't match the archetype of the strong empowering female.

The whole thing was just idiotic.

Sebbe1337o wrote...

Poll 1:
Appearance, hair colour not important, just hair style.
Poll 2:
Hair and eye colour.

I think BW planned it to be 2 polls all along. People just misinterpreted it.

Problem
is they never announced there was going to be more than one poll, and
only did so after the collective *****ing took place on the forums.

There was only one poll announced, until the anti-blond brigade took up their noble cause. We can be glad it only amounted to hair color. God forbid they ever listen to the community's opinion on something that affected gameplay.

[Zkyire]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Actually I found the entire contest ironically hypocritical. After all the whining over how Miranda's (and to a lesser degree Ashley's) hairstyle was impractical, the community voted for the FemShep with the long, flowing, super-model hair. And then there was MORE whining because somehow Blonde females don't match the archetype of the strong empowering female.

The whole thing was just idiotic.

Sebbe1337o wrote...

Poll 1:
Appearance, hair colour not important, just hair style.
Poll 2:
Hair and eye colour.

I think BW planned it to be 2 polls all along. People just misinterpreted it.

Problem
is they never announced there was going to be more than one poll, and
only did so after the collective *****ing took place on the forums.

This.

"Well it seems this is the new femshep, folks, as voted for by the community".

Then followed a ****storm of insults from said community saying how she was a barbie, dumb, can't take a blonde woman seriously etc.

"...well folks it looks like we have a new poll coming out!"

Fleh.

[OmegaXI]

If you haven't heard Bioware is a strong advocate for the "Dark-Haired Agenda", which can be seen in the ME universe where blonds are extinct.

They actively push their bias idea's into their work, do the forum hipsters and all their fancy smancy morals do anything about it? No they give their silent acknowledgment to this bais and hairist way of thinking.

[The JoeMan]

All Dead wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

I assume it was women who complained? Am I right?

Ah here we go. Just an honest question, right? Subtle.



The fiasco wasn't so much the fan uproar, it was that the fact that it turned out to be a beauty contest that no one asked for. I do think Bioware had the best of intentions--they sincerely set it up as a positive fan input thing--but the end result just seemed tacky and doomed to alienate the very Femshep fans whom they wanted to acknowledge. It also didn't help that: a) Femshep's default look was being changed from the original default Femshep for no discernible reason (why not simply give her better texture?), the vote was being influenced by people who had no investment in Femshep as a character, hence they were only concerned with how "hot" she looked, and c) the double standard of Default Manshep's look being chosen internally at Bioware--a deliberate artistic and marketing decision--in comparison to Femshep's look seemingly not treated as seriously and left to the whims of the public as an afterthought (the very same issues Femshep fans have been disheartened by for years).

The blonde thing was problematic, and I don't think it's a simple matter to parse. On the one hand, I think it was unfair and shallow to crap on the blonde/white look itself and to say the things supposedly more enlightened Femshep fans said about the stereotype. I think in some instances the line between calling out the airhead bimbo stereotype and actually propagating the stereotype was crossed. You could say some of the same people who had problems with the beauty pageant overtones of the contest were also guilty of furthering it. On the other hand, the blonde/caucasian look also doesn't exist in a cultural vaccuum, and it's a look that has become the apex of feminine beauty in Western society to the point of nauseating cliche and ethnic whitewashing. There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting Femshep to be attractive or be blonde or white, but it was just so typical that THAT's the Shep that would be considered the most attractive one, and the one to get the win over the more diverse, and particularly the ethnic, candidates.

Personally, I wasn't too invested in the contest... I have my one and only canon Shep, I still get to use her, and there was never a chance in hell that Marketing Femshep would ever look quite like her. I suspect in the end that most Femshep fans feel that way. However, I can also understand that Marketing Femshep is what the rest of the world sees and for a character whose fans view as somewhat of a mold-breaker in video gaming, getting a Marketing Femshep that comes with all the baggage (whether justifiable or not) of "glamourous beauty queen pixie" is something a lot of us find cringeworthy.

LOL.  So to answer your question Stardusk78.  Yes.

[Patchwork]

The second poll was slanted. It was the same hair style in blonde, darker blonde, brunette or red but while blonde, darker blonde and brunette had the same eye colour (blue) and a beauty mark red had green eyes and freckles. Surpirse, surprise the one that was different and therefore stood out from the others three won.

I voted for the redhead in both polls because after two games I was used to the FemShep default being a redhead but the second poll was clearly unfair.

[heretica]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Catt128 wrote...

People. What do you want, a list with names?

I assume it was women who complained? Am I right?

Modifié par Catt128, 30 janvier 2012 - 12:24 .

[HiroVoid]

I still don't get why we didn't get a 3rd poll to vote on skin tone.....y'know, unless Bioware didn't want to get into the(to quote Udina) political sh**storm if caucasian Shepard won in that type of contest.

[robarcool]

My reaction:
http://t2.gstatic.co...2v23MtvgPwth-WL

[Haasth]

hey gais wai we no get poll bout male shep hair color omg bioware is sexist

...Seriously though. Why care?
I hate how male Shepard looks like. But thankfully, I can make my own. Don't like the red hair, don't use it. 

Modifié par Haasth, 30 janvier 2012 - 12:45 .