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[Cutlass Jack]

Just played the demo and I'm still squeeing. Finally someone taking an old school tactical game approach and updating it in all the right ways. Admittedly the demo is short, but loving what I've seen so far. Had no issues with controls or performance at all.

Can't wait til October to really get into it.

[AshedMan]

I'm downloading the demo now. Will give it a shot after work.

[TobiTobsen]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Just played the demo and I'm still squeeing. Finally someone taking an old school tactical game approach and updating it in all the right ways. Admittedly the demo is short, but loving what I've seen so far. Had no issues with controls or performance at all.

Can't wait til October to really get into it.

Exactly.

The demo showed me why I vowed to never touch demos again. It's like taking a bite out of a cake, somebody grabbing the cake and telling you that you'll have to wait two more weeks for the rest.


*Vader: NOOOOOOOOO*

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 25 septembre 2012 - 02:37 .

[Cutlass Jack]

I usually avoid demos, but I made an exception in this case. I've played too many reboots of favorite old series where they tossed out absolutely everything I loved about the original. (i.e. Dungeon Siege III, Jagged Alliance, and the other X-Com reboot)

But finally this looks to be a decent reboot from people who understood what was fun about the original. So I feel comfortable giving them my pre-order sale now.

[Morbo]

The demo was rather fun and the game looks like it will be quite good, but eh, after having played the original so much during the past 18 years I doubt I'll be able to fully get over the fact that this new game isn't...well, the original.
Stupid me.

Hope the final game will be properly difficult like the original. No, not difficult...COMPLETELY @#$%%#@ BRUTAL would be more apt I think. Oh the times half my squad got wiped right after disembarking from the skyranger...

And has there been any word on which aliens from the original will be returning and which ones won't?
There's already sectoids and floaters in the demo, 2 classics, and those thin men which are new. Really hoping to see Cryssalids, MOST HATED enemies of all time, make a comeback so the tradition of always carrying a live grenade on your squaddies can be kept alive.

[Allan Schumacher]

Chryssalids are in. You will hate them

I think this game will not be quite as merciless as the original (which had a bug in it that always reverted the difficulty to beginner. Yes... beginner was THAT freaking hard) on normal difficulty levels. BUT, they devs have stated they want to make sure players find the game very challenging and that getting through without losses is a difficult thing. The lead designer has boldly stated that the hardest difficulty on iron man has never been completed by anyone at his office haha.

[Cutlass Jack]

I lost a few people on my first demo run. So embarassing.

The only thing the demo did not show me though was the save system. I'm hoping we can have individual saves between missions at least. I don't mind redoing an entire map because I made a careless error, but I'd probably hate an autosave system that gave me no choice in having to accept the loss of a favorite unit.

I don't mind some units permanently dying. That comes with the game. But I can see I'll end up getting attached to a few of them.

[AtreiyaN7]

Give me the game now, please. I don't even need a demo.

<---- Diehard X-Com fan from the old days.

[streamlock]

Just got done fiddling with the demo. I'd say it is more of a turn based/cover based tac shooter with some light base management with an ode to XCOM. Definitely 'inspired' by the original, by no means a remake. It's hard to get a full read with how short "and easy" the demo was. Don't qualify that as a 100% knock though-there are some things about the original that were pretty obtuse (the UI for example).

It's really hard for me to complain however-how many turn based tac games, even a bit (or more) over simplified are even being made these days outside the indie scene?

Don't know if I want to buy the game for Firaxis even having the balls to make a modern day turn based squad game in the 1st place, or not buy it in a nerd rage fit for the depth that have (at least with my short experience with the demo-it might open up a bit) been stripped from it.

On a totally tangential note: Why on earth would they even try to remake XCOM or Syndicate as an FPS? Seriously, a property like Crusader: No Remorse would be a much better candidate for an FPS remake. Wait a minute-that actually sounds pretty badass.........

[grregg]

streamlock wrote...

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It's hard to get a full read with how short "and easy" the demo was. Don't qualify that as a 100% knock though-there are some things about the original that were pretty obtuse (the UI for example).

(...)

Supposedly you can change the difficulty level if you mess with .ini files. By default it's set to "easy." Or so I hear.

[Dean_the_Young]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I lost a few people on my first demo run. So embarassing.

The only thing the demo did not show me though was the save system. I'm hoping we can have individual saves between missions at least. I don't mind redoing an entire map because I made a careless error, but I'd probably hate an autosave system that gave me no choice in having to accept the loss of a favorite unit.

I don't mind some units permanently dying. That comes with the game. But I can see I'll end up getting attached to a few of them.

Ironman mode, with a single-file auto-save, is what you're concerned about. Luckily, it's optional.

[Giggles_Manically]

This demo just made me so glad I pre-ordered.

Also go-go Ricardo Lopez!
I still lost one guy though. But hey getting a 1-8 kill ratio is pretty good.

[AshedMan]

Played through the demo. Seems like it will be a decent game, but I'm going to wait for it to drop to around $20 before buying.

[Allan Schumacher]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I lost a few people on my first demo run. So embarassing.

The only thing the demo did not show me though was the save system. I'm hoping we can have individual saves between missions at least. I don't mind redoing an entire map because I made a careless error, but I'd probably hate an autosave system that gave me no choice in having to accept the loss of a favorite unit.

I don't mind some units permanently dying. That comes with the game. But I can see I'll end up getting attached to a few of them.

The game features a hardcore mode which they highlight prevents saving/loading aside from autosaves.  WHich means they likely have a game mode which does NOT do that

[Cutlass Jack]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

The game features a hardcore mode which they highlight prevents saving/loading aside from autosaves.  WHich means they likely have a game mode which does NOT do that

That's just what they want us to think! I won't fall for that incredibly sound logic!

But more seriously, thanks both of you for clueing me in about Hardcore mode. That does sound like a mode I'll probably enjoy trying at least once...as long as the game allows you to have more than one save file.

Which sounds incredibly stupid thing to worry about...unless you've played Dragon's Dogma.

[Matchy Pointy]

I really, really liked what I saw in the demo, and the game just jumped up to my most anticipated game this year, though I had wished to see a bit how the unscripted side of the game works.

[TobiTobsen]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

The game features a hardcore mode which they highlight prevents saving/loading aside from autosaves.  WHich means they likely have a game mode which does NOT do that

That's just what they want us to think! I won't fall for that incredibly sound logic!

But more seriously, thanks both of you for clueing me in about Hardcore mode. That does sound like a mode I'll probably enjoy trying at least once...as long as the game allows you to have more than one save file.

Which sounds incredibly stupid thing to worry about...unless you've played Dragon's Dogma.

Hardcore Mode... I'm pretty sure I won't be able to play it.

I already degenerated into madness, screamed german profanities at the sky (I was told by non-germans that our language is absolutley perfect for enraged shouting ) and nearly destroyed my poor keyboard, when I lost my Hardcore playthrough in Diablo III because of a lag.

No, sir! No Hardcore mode for me.

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:19 .

[Cyberarmy]

TobiTobsen wrote...



Hardcore Mode... I'm pretty sure I won't be able to play it.

I already degenerated into madness, screamed german profanities at the sky (I was told by non-germans that our language is absolutly perfect for enraged shouting ) and nearly destroyed my poor keyboard, when I lost my Hardcore playthrough in Diablo III because of a lag.

No, sir! No Hardcore mode for me.

I feel ya man :/

I was ready to ate my rig when 4 Fallen Lunatics killed my 58lvl monk in one second net spike...
But nevertheless X-Com Ironman mode here i come! After my first playthrough tough

[Lotion Soronarr]

Not bad...But still limited compared to the old ones.

Hate me all you want but I like not having super-specilizaed caricatures as soldiers and I like managing ammo and my TU's.

[Cyberarmy]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Not bad...But still limited compared to the old ones.

Hate me all you want but I like not having super-specilizaed caricatures as soldiers and I like managing ammo and my TU's.

This is all we can get till some kickstarters mate. So we have to manage(deal) with it.
And personally i can live with combat changes but having only 1 base dissapoints me. Well at least we can watch our scientists butchering gray bodies

[Lotion Soronarr]

Xenonauts (fully playable beta should be out sometime next month)
UFO:AI


There are others too. The old school is still alive.

[twincast]

Regarding those that lost men (or women) in the demo mission: You do realize you've got a healing unit, right?

Cyberarmy wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Not bad...But still limited compared to the old ones.

Hate me all you want but I like not having super-specilizaed caricatures as soldiers and I like managing ammo and my TU's.

This is all we can get till some kickstarters mate. So we have to manage(deal) with it.
And personally i can live with combat changes but having only 1 base dissapoints me. Well at least we can watch our scientists butchering gray bodies

The only thing that bothers me about the combat a wee little bit is the simplification to the standard two actions per turn. But yes, having only one base is a major dissapointment. That said, the game still feels great regardless. Must-have, IMHO.

[Cutlass Jack]

twincast wrote...

Regarding those that lost men (or women) in the demo mission: You do realize you've got a healing unit, right?

Yup! Thats the one the Alien shot in the head.

[Allan Schumacher]

I wasn't married to TUs, and I'm not sure about the base thing. One interesting thing is that your base location has an effect, which I think is neat.

I never really bought into the caricature argument, since i always sort of felt that the original was somewhat cartoony in this regard too (that hair!)

[Morbo]

I don't really mind the lack of TUs. Hell, last time I played X-Com Apocalypse I used the real-time option for the battlescape the entire time and liked it too.

As for only having one base...I dunno. Guess I will miss designing various types of bases all around the globe.
Though I'll already be happy if the aliens at least try to assault your base regularly once you ****** them off enough.