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So is Starfang the only weapon that can Kill Superman?


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ReubenLiew

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Which would result in a dead Superman anyway since it's a sword after all. Superman doesn't have any real fighting skills besides.

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Bathead wrote...

Kryptonite was created from the material that made up the planet when it exploded, it's atomic structure was altered by said explosion. Green kryptonite, the most common, WILL kill Superman,via radiation poisoning, if he is exposed to it long enough. Blue Kryptonite will temporarily remove all his powers as long as he is exposed to it. Red Kryptonite has random properties, it can affect him in diffeerent ways, altering his personality, his powers, even giving him different powers than he had before. There are more rarer kinds (white,gold, silver, yellow, etc.) which all have different effects.
-this from a 55 year old comics nerd. (Me)


And thus my comic lore expands.

I'm not sure whether to be happy or sad.

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God you people are stupid, it's a joke Superman is not really in Dragon Age. It was simply a cameo made by Bioware it will never have a major impact on the main series.

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dbmccart wrote...

God you people are stupid, it's a joke Superman is not really in Dragon Age. It was simply a cameo made by Bioware it will never have a major impact on the main series.

Dude, we know this. We're just having some fun with it. No need to be such an ass.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Then starfang ought to be blue kryptonite, thus superman would be utterly mortal in it's presence?


More nerdly trivia -
Actually Kryptonite is generally crystalline in nature, not metallic. I suspect the Starmetal is meant to be a piece of the ship, therefore, he would not be vulnerable to a weapon made from it unless it was enchanted, as Superman is also vulnerable to magic.

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dbmccart wrote...

God you people are stupid, it's a joke Superman is not really in Dragon Age. It was simply a cameo made by Bioware it will never have a major impact on the main series.


You don't believe the rumor that in the sequal Superman grows up to do battle with the arch-villian Morrigan's god-child?

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I never understood Superman's canon.

I thought he was super-strong and invulnerable and such because he was very dense?

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Bathead wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Then starfang ought to be blue kryptonite, thus superman would be utterly mortal in it's presence?


More nerdly trivia -
Actually Kryptonite is generally crystalline in nature, not metallic. I suspect the Starmetal is meant to be a piece of the ship, therefore, he would not be vulnerable to a weapon made from it unless it was enchanted, as Superman is also vulnerable to magic.


Yes, I remember something with him and a wizard.

So, Sandal is the Lex Luthor to superman cause of his amazing enchanting abilities. It all makes sense now.

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Dark83 wrote...

I never understood Superman's canon.
I thought he was super-strong and invulnerable and such because he was very dense?


The light from our yellow sun gives Kryptonians super powers because of their dense molecular structure or something, yeah.

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Then how can he lose his strength and density from exposure to radiation? He swells up like a balloon? :huh:

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Dark83 wrote...

Then how can he lose his strength and density from exposure to radiation? He swells up like a balloon? :huh:


He knows how to defy gravity and sends heat rays from his eyes. Why question that of all things?

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Something about how Rao's (Krypton's sun) explosion (Rao exploding is why Krypton exploded) infused Kryptonite with it's molecular something or other (Rao's red light is what kept Kryptonians "normal"). I'm sure the comic nerds know more.



It's all rubbish basically. It's a comic book, what do you expect? Just enjoy the flying man who beats up bald villians.

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The Angry One wrote...
It's all rubbish basically. It's a comic book, what do you expect? Just enjoy the flying man who beats up bald villians.


And all darkspawn are bald...

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Well, as to the original post, I'd say no, it isn't the only weapon, for one simple reason: Superman is not magic immune. So the right magic weapon should be able to solve the problem as well.

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Axterix wrote...

Well, as to the original post, I'd say no, it isn't the only weapon, for one simple reason: Superman is not magic immune. So the right magic weapon should be able to solve the problem as well.


The question is, will an enchanted weapon with Magic Damage +1 suffice, or does it need to be +2 or higher? Hmm...

Of course, the BIG question we've all missed, is: Will Superman be a romance-able companion in the sequel???Posted Image

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Won't he shoot holes in you if you do the nasty?

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ReubenLiew

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I think ol' Supes will end up in the same boat as Teagan, sure you can flirt him up a bit but it's a dry well, ladies, a dry, dry, bitter well.

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bayareadodger69 wrote...

Axterix wrote...

Well, as to the original post, I'd say no, it isn't the only weapon, for one simple reason: Superman is not magic immune. So the right magic weapon should be able to solve the problem as well.


The question is, will an enchanted weapon with Magic Damage +1 suffice, or does it need to be +2 or higher? Hmm...

Of course, the BIG question we've all missed, is: Will Superman be a romance-able companion in the sequel???Posted Image

 Just the addition of magic period is enought to render Superman vulnerable to the weapon. All that means is the weapon would do as much damage to Superman as it would to any normal human. No more, no less.
 Posted ImageI think.

Modificata da Bathead, 27 novembre 2009 - 07:45 .


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Superman still moves as fast as a speeding bullet though, so good luck hitting him. :P

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Bathead wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Then starfang ought to be blue kryptonite, thus superman would be utterly mortal in it's presence?


More nerdly trivia -
Actually Kryptonite is generally crystalline in nature, not metallic. I suspect the Starmetal is meant to be a piece of the ship, therefore, he would not be vulnerable to a weapon made from it unless it was enchanted, as Superman is also vulnerable to magic.


Actually (and I recognize that I'm cementing myself in the Nerd Hall of Fame as I write this) in pre-Crisis continuity Blue Kryptonite powered Superman up (further enhancing his powers, curing the random effects of Red Kryptonite, and has the same effect on Bizzaro as Green does on Superman), Blue Kryptonite being the exact opposite of Green. In Post-Crisis it's still painful to Bizzaro, but "cures" Bizzaro's mental deficiency, making him intelligent and polite. Post-Crisis it's still a Kryptonian Red Bull to Supes himself.

Also they used Blue Kryptonite in Smallville to remove Clark's powers while it was present (which also removed the lethality of Green Kryptonite), but this was only temporary.

For a Kryptonite that completely negates Kryptonian powers PERMANENTLY, see Gold Kryptonite, but this is only pre-Crisis. Post-Crisis Gold Kryptonite removes his powers, but only temporarily.

For further reference, see the Crisis on Infinite Earths trade paperback, reprinting the issues from the 1986 miniseries.

So strictly speaking, in Smallville Starfang would negate his powers, making the sword itself lethal.

In both Pre-and-Post-Crisis comics, Starfang would make Supes exponentially MORE bad-of-the-ass.

In any social circle NOT dedicated to comic books and their lore, this entire post would leave me socially ostracized and very, very lonely.

In any case, Starfang should still have a good shot at killing Superman as soon as Sandal dumps on an... "ENCHANTMENT!" Simply because powered-up or no, Magic is still a vulnerability.

...my god I worked in a comic shop for too long...

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Heh, heh ... Thanks for clearing up the Blue K mistake, I was indeed going by Smallville (big mistake , I know) I'm primarily going on Silver age lore, as that is what I'm most familiar with, mixed with tidbits I've learned in the last few years over the internet.

And I'm really too old for this stuff.

(But, so effin' what!)

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Dark83 wrote...

Superman still moves as fast as a speeding bullet though, so good luck hitting him. :P


PC: *swing*
MISS
PC: *swing*
MISS
PC: *swing*
MISS
PC: *swing*
MISS
PC: *swing*
MISS
Morrigan: *Crushing Prison*
*Superman is trapped and dies*
PC: ......... I hate you.

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dbmccart wrote...

God you people are stupid, it's a joke Superman is not really in Dragon Age. It was simply a cameo made by Bioware it will never have a major impact on the main series.


Oh God... nothing gets by you detective.

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superman had no problems with kryptonite as a baby, he developed a deathly allergy to it after growing up on earth.... i never saw a solid explanation as to WHY that is though.

It's because Kryptonite affects Kryptonians magical powers. The red destabelizes it, causing their powers to fluxuate and drives them batty, the blue amps the power and on contact can clone them (bizzaro clone) and the green drags the power out of them. Painfully.

 

Of course all of this is retcon material. Originally it was simply a radioactive agent that roflstomped through their healing and whatnot so the writers would have an easy way to hold him in check.



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OMG, all da nerds are here, it's so cute'
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