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BioWare announces ME3 cast
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#827
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:27
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Personality Disorder wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
hey chris can you comment on the whole johnny vegas thing from ibm? alot of people ( myself included) believe its a legit charachter.
Seeing Johnny Vegas in ME3 would be hilarious.
who was the guy that played moe green from godfather? im having a brain fart right now thinking of the actor.
#828
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:29
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1Nosphorus1 wrote...
Deltaboy37-1 wrote...Charlie isn't qualified? Y'vonne, what about her? How about Ali Hillis?
Weird question, but who gave you the measuring stick on who's qualified?
First things first, when did Charlie Sheen become involved? Second, he's stating his opinion based on his findings of today, saying he doesn't "think" which is purely his opinion that she is qualified, yet you jump in on your high horse damning his opinion that "how dare he" voice his concerns about an attractive piece of meat who isn't allowed to review videogames (lawl) and has to read off a teleprompter.
Her voice, in my opinion is monotone and uninteresting; with the addition of uncanny valley she's going to be a very unconvincing addition to the crew.
you clearly didnt see earlier post of his. So please save your defense for the court... thnx <_<
It appears you're another who falls into the same pitfall of prejudging. No skin off my back though.
Listen dudes, feel free to use whatever the hell logic you want. I forgot that it is pointless to try to make sense on the BSN. Good luck dudes.
#829
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:30
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Not really a cast announcement, as quite a few people weren't announced.
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Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:30
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Moe Greene was played by Alex Rocco.Tazzmission wrote...
Personality Disorder wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
hey chris can you comment on the whole johnny vegas thing from ibm? alot of people ( myself included) believe its a legit charachter.
Seeing Johnny Vegas in ME3 would be hilarious.
who was the guy that played moe green from godfather? im having a brain fart right now thinking of the actor.
I actually meant this one
Modifié par Personality Disorder, 31 janvier 2012 - 10:34 .
#831
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:33
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Chris Priestly wrote...
eoinnx02 wrote...
Its funny eveytime new info or a trailer comes out, morons appear eveywhere.
You mean, like people who call each other morons? Yeah, I hate that.
ZINGGGGGGGGGGGG
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Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:34
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It is laughable to find those that are complaining or just trying to stir up something. After all people were pleading to see more footage, more info, etc.
Well here it is...and yet...yeah folks still aren't happy.
Oh well.
Well here it is...and yet...yeah folks still aren't happy.
Oh well.
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Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:35
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Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Again, fair, but really? You don't see how what you said is all the more reason
not to prejudge???
You have no info on her! right? You just said it. Why not wait to "GET
INFO ON HER" by doing something like... let say... waiting to play to game
and see, instead of filling threads with "WHO THE F*** is this
person" "WTH is BioWare thinking?!?!"
You've got to be kidding me man! LOL! The tone of your earlier post do NOT
reflect this suddenly adopted mellow attitude. I am not sayin you were irate or
hateful or spiteful either, I am just saying your tone has simply changed.
My first post on the subject was this:
Thessair wrote…
I do very much hate to be a Negative Nelly, but without any evidence of skill (or lack thereof) in VA work this kind of smacks of stunt casting. I'm not especially keen on the Chobot/Allers thing.
A statement I have not wavered from. I added this statement:
Thessair wrote…
While I'm willing to give this Chobot thing the benefit of the doubt, this was clearly a role that could
have gone to an actual VA. Just because she is a "reporter" in real life, it doesn't mean she'll be any good at portraying a character in that profession. Look at the various athletes, political officials, etc. who have played roles in fictional properties and been wooden and uncomfortable.
My position hasn’t changed, are you confusing me with someone else? I’m not keen on her casting (first point) but I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt (second point). Same tone and opinion I’ve had all along.
Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Also no, I don't paint people who disagree with me as hating her. Look upward a few post and my
point will be made.
Allow me to remind you of this:
Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
I'd venture to say that you just dislike her and for whatever reason have a predisposition on why BioWare might have hired her... lets say the whole "hire her for her looks" position.
I have all the infomation I need to form an initial opinion on her qualifications as a VA: her past experience in the field, none. The distinction you are not making is that I’m not criticizing her actual voice acting. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Close, but not the same thing.
Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Okay, lets say you are saying exactly what you want to say. Well, a voice actor is a voice actor. You can classify them all you want. Charlie Sheen is a VA, Jessica Chobot is now a VA. You can deduce that Charlie has more experienced, but they are two people in the same industry. That's s form of discrimination tbh. Just because Chobot is a gaming personality who happens to be well known, guess what? Charlie Sheen is an accomplished movie actor, and then there is everyone else in the industry and this game who are at different levels of the
industry respectively. So when you say Voice actors get the short shrift... you're right... and guess what, you just committed the same atrocity you claimed. You are giving Chobot the short shrift, simply because you do not know
her... Oh yeah and what do you classify as "qualified"? Charlie isn't qualified? Y'vonne, what about her? How about Ali Hillis?
Weird question, but who gave you the measuring stick on who's qualified?
Charlie Sheen has done voice acting, but he is not a voice actor. He is an actor. The jobs are not the same. I venture if you ask him he’ll tell you the same. Accomplished actors do not always make the best voice
actors. It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
Atrocity? Really. All because I don’t know her? Do you know her? Let me repeat this bit from up above, it obviously bears repeating. I’m not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Again, It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
At what point did I declare myself the final judge on qualifications? I was stating my opinions and the reasoning behind them. End of story.
Oh, hey, weird question, but who gave you the measuring stick on what is valid in people’s opinions?
Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The only qualification you have on this issue is you money, and sad to say, that carries weight, but not enough.
Are you saying there is something more important to a business at the end of the day than making money? Clearly you have never been in business.
Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The best you can do for BioWare at this point is drop $79 for the CE version out of the millions they WILL make on this game, so I guess that means, your measurement of qualify doesn't... wait for it... qualify?
Are you implying I want BioWare to fail or to succeed? I’ve already preordered the game (x2) and, as stated earlier, I have no intention of canceling. Also, I have no idea what a measurement of qualify is. I’ll assume you mean quality. For the third time, I’ll say this: I’m not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. You admit initially my point is fair, but then argue it to death. I have no idea why you have appointed your self Chobot's champion or why, of all the vitrol spewing hate-mongers in the thread you decided to take offense at me, but I think I've been feeding a troll.
Wow, indeed.Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Just WOW!
Modifié par Thessair, 31 janvier 2012 - 10:42 .
#834
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:37
PsychoWARD23
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[quote]Thessair wrote...
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Again, fair, but really? You don't see how what you said is all the more reason
not to prejudge???
You have no info on her! right? You just said it. Why not wait to "GET
INFO ON HER" by doing something like... let say... waiting to play to game
and see, instead of filling threads with "WHO THE F*** is this
person" "WTH is BioWare thinking?!?!"
You've got to be kidding me man! LOL! The tone of your earlier post do NOT
reflect this suddenly adopted mellow attitude. I am not sayin you were irate or
hateful or spiteful either, I am just saying your tone has simply changed.
[/quote]
My first post on the subject was this:
[quote] Thessair wrote…
I do very much hate to be a
Negative Nelly, but without any evidence of skill (or lack thereof) in VA work
this kind of smacks of stunt casting. I'm not especially keen on the
Chobot/Allers thing.
[/quote]
A statement I have not wavered from. I added that statement
to this:
[quote[ Thessair wrote…
While I'm willing to give
this Chobot thing the benefit of the doubt, this was clearly a role that could
have gone to an actual VA. Just because she is a "reporter" in real
life, it doesn't mean she'll be any good at portraying a character in that
profession. Look at the various athletes, political officials, etc. who have
played roles in fictional properties and been wooden and uncomfortable.
[/quote]
My position hasn’t changed, are you confusing me with
someone else? I’m not keen on her casting (first point) but I’m willing to give
her the benefit of the doubt (second point). Same tone and opinion I’ve had all
along.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Also no, I don't
paint people who disagree with me as hating her. Look upward a few post and my
point will be made. [/quote]
Allow me to remind you of this:
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
I'd venture to say that you just dislike her and
for whatever reason have a predisposition on why BioWare might have hired
her... lets say the whole "hire her for her looks" position.
[/quote]
I have all the infomation I need to form an initial opinion
on her qualifications as a VA: her past experience in the field, none. The
distinction you are not making is that I’m not criticizing her actual voice
acting. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice
acting. Close, but not the same thing.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Okay, lets say you are saying exactly what you want to say. Well, a voice actor
is a voice actor. You can classify them all you want. Charlie Sheen is a VA,
Jessica Chobot is now a VA. You can deduce that Charlie has more experienced,
but they are two people in the same industry. That's s form of discrimination
tbh. Just because Chobot is a gaming personality who happens to be well known,
guess what? Charlie Sheen is an accomplished movie actor, and then there is
everyone else in the industry and this game who are at different levels of the
industry respectively. So when you say Voice actors get the short shrift...
you're right... and guess what, you just committed the same atrocity you
claimed. You are giving Chobot the short shrift, simply because you do not know
her... Oh yeah and what do you classify as "qualified"? Charlie isn't
qualified? Y'vonne, what about her? How about Ali Hillis?
Weird question, but who gave you the measuring stick on who's qualified?
[/quote]
Charlie Sheen has done voice acting, but he is not a voice
actor. He is an actor. The jobs are not the same. I venture if you ask him he’ll
tell you the same. Accomplished actors do not always make the best voice
actors. It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
Atrocity? Really. All because I don’t know her? Let me
repeat this bit from up above, it obviously bears repeating. I’m not criticizing her actual voice
acting, I never have. I’m concerned
about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Again, It.
Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
At what point did I declare myself the final judge on
qualifications? I was stating my opinions and the reasoning behind them. End of
story.
Oh, hey, weird question, but who gave you the measuring
stick on what is valid in people’s opinions?
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The only
qualification you have on this issue is you money, and sad to say, that carries
weight, but not enough.
[/quote]
This part is
a little hard to understand. You’re saying there is something more important to
a business at the end of the day than making money? Clearly you have never been
in business.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The best you
can do for BioWare at this point is drop $79 for the CE version out of the
millions they WILL make on this game, so I guess that means, your measurement
of qualify doesn't... wait for it... qualify?
[/quote]
Are you implying
I want BioWare to fail or to succeed? I’ve already preordered the game (x2) and,
as stated earlier, I have no intention of canceling. Also, I have no idea what a measurement of
qualify is. I’ll assume you mean quality. For the third time, I’ll say this: I’m
not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience
will affect her voice acting. You admit initially my point is fair, but then argue it to death. I have no idea why you have appointed your self Chobot's champion or why, of all the vitrol spewing hate-mongers in the thread you decided to take offense at me, but I think I've been feeding a troll.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Just WOW!
[/quote]
Wow, indeed.
[/quote]
DIDN'T READ LOL
SIDE CHARACTER LOL
BSN LOL
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Again, fair, but really? You don't see how what you said is all the more reason
not to prejudge???
You have no info on her! right? You just said it. Why not wait to "GET
INFO ON HER" by doing something like... let say... waiting to play to game
and see, instead of filling threads with "WHO THE F*** is this
person" "WTH is BioWare thinking?!?!"
You've got to be kidding me man! LOL! The tone of your earlier post do NOT
reflect this suddenly adopted mellow attitude. I am not sayin you were irate or
hateful or spiteful either, I am just saying your tone has simply changed.
[/quote]
My first post on the subject was this:
[quote] Thessair wrote…
I do very much hate to be a
Negative Nelly, but without any evidence of skill (or lack thereof) in VA work
this kind of smacks of stunt casting. I'm not especially keen on the
Chobot/Allers thing.
[/quote]
A statement I have not wavered from. I added that statement
to this:
[quote[ Thessair wrote…
While I'm willing to give
this Chobot thing the benefit of the doubt, this was clearly a role that could
have gone to an actual VA. Just because she is a "reporter" in real
life, it doesn't mean she'll be any good at portraying a character in that
profession. Look at the various athletes, political officials, etc. who have
played roles in fictional properties and been wooden and uncomfortable.
[/quote]
My position hasn’t changed, are you confusing me with
someone else? I’m not keen on her casting (first point) but I’m willing to give
her the benefit of the doubt (second point). Same tone and opinion I’ve had all
along.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Also no, I don't
paint people who disagree with me as hating her. Look upward a few post and my
point will be made. [/quote]
Allow me to remind you of this:
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
I'd venture to say that you just dislike her and
for whatever reason have a predisposition on why BioWare might have hired
her... lets say the whole "hire her for her looks" position.
[/quote]
I have all the infomation I need to form an initial opinion
on her qualifications as a VA: her past experience in the field, none. The
distinction you are not making is that I’m not criticizing her actual voice
acting. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice
acting. Close, but not the same thing.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Okay, lets say you are saying exactly what you want to say. Well, a voice actor
is a voice actor. You can classify them all you want. Charlie Sheen is a VA,
Jessica Chobot is now a VA. You can deduce that Charlie has more experienced,
but they are two people in the same industry. That's s form of discrimination
tbh. Just because Chobot is a gaming personality who happens to be well known,
guess what? Charlie Sheen is an accomplished movie actor, and then there is
everyone else in the industry and this game who are at different levels of the
industry respectively. So when you say Voice actors get the short shrift...
you're right... and guess what, you just committed the same atrocity you
claimed. You are giving Chobot the short shrift, simply because you do not know
her... Oh yeah and what do you classify as "qualified"? Charlie isn't
qualified? Y'vonne, what about her? How about Ali Hillis?
Weird question, but who gave you the measuring stick on who's qualified?
[/quote]
Charlie Sheen has done voice acting, but he is not a voice
actor. He is an actor. The jobs are not the same. I venture if you ask him he’ll
tell you the same. Accomplished actors do not always make the best voice
actors. It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
Atrocity? Really. All because I don’t know her? Let me
repeat this bit from up above, it obviously bears repeating. I’m not criticizing her actual voice
acting, I never have. I’m concerned
about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Again, It.
Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
At what point did I declare myself the final judge on
qualifications? I was stating my opinions and the reasoning behind them. End of
story.
Oh, hey, weird question, but who gave you the measuring
stick on what is valid in people’s opinions?
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The only
qualification you have on this issue is you money, and sad to say, that carries
weight, but not enough.
[/quote]
This part is
a little hard to understand. You’re saying there is something more important to
a business at the end of the day than making money? Clearly you have never been
in business.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The best you
can do for BioWare at this point is drop $79 for the CE version out of the
millions they WILL make on this game, so I guess that means, your measurement
of qualify doesn't... wait for it... qualify?
[/quote]
Are you implying
I want BioWare to fail or to succeed? I’ve already preordered the game (x2) and,
as stated earlier, I have no intention of canceling. Also, I have no idea what a measurement of
qualify is. I’ll assume you mean quality. For the third time, I’ll say this: I’m
not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience
will affect her voice acting. You admit initially my point is fair, but then argue it to death. I have no idea why you have appointed your self Chobot's champion or why, of all the vitrol spewing hate-mongers in the thread you decided to take offense at me, but I think I've been feeding a troll.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Just WOW!
[/quote]
Wow, indeed.
[/quote]
DIDN'T READ LOL
SIDE CHARACTER LOL
BSN LOL
#835
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:40
jackyboy666
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[quote]PsychoWARD23 wrote...
[quote]Thessair wrote...
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Again, fair, but really? You don't see how what you said is all the more reason
not to prejudge???
You have no info on her! right? You just said it. Why not wait to "GET
INFO ON HER" by doing something like... let say... waiting to play to game
and see, instead of filling threads with "WHO THE F*** is this
person" "WTH is BioWare thinking?!?!"
You've got to be kidding me man! LOL! The tone of your earlier post do NOT
reflect this suddenly adopted mellow attitude. I am not sayin you were irate or
hateful or spiteful either, I am just saying your tone has simply changed.
[/quote]
My first post on the subject was this:
[quote] Thessair wrote…
I do very much hate to be a
Negative Nelly, but without any evidence of skill (or lack thereof) in VA work
this kind of smacks of stunt casting. I'm not especially keen on the
Chobot/Allers thing.
[/quote]
A statement I have not wavered from. I added that statement
to this:
[quote[ Thessair wrote…
While I'm willing to give
this Chobot thing the benefit of the doubt, this was clearly a role that could
have gone to an actual VA. Just because she is a "reporter" in real
life, it doesn't mean she'll be any good at portraying a character in that
profession. Look at the various athletes, political officials, etc. who have
played roles in fictional properties and been wooden and uncomfortable.
[/quote]
My position hasn’t changed, are you confusing me with
someone else? I’m not keen on her casting (first point) but I’m willing to give
her the benefit of the doubt (second point). Same tone and opinion I’ve had all
along.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Also no, I don't
paint people who disagree with me as hating her. Look upward a few post and my
point will be made. [/quote]
Allow me to remind you of this:
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
I'd venture to say that you just dislike her and
for whatever reason have a predisposition on why BioWare might have hired
her... lets say the whole "hire her for her looks" position.
[/quote]
I have all the infomation I need to form an initial opinion
on her qualifications as a VA: her past experience in the field, none. The
distinction you are not making is that I’m not criticizing her actual voice
acting. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice
acting. Close, but not the same thing.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Okay, lets say you are saying exactly what you want to say. Well, a voice actor
is a voice actor. You can classify them all you want. Charlie Sheen is a VA,
Jessica Chobot is now a VA. You can deduce that Charlie has more experienced,
but they are two people in the same industry. That's s form of discrimination
tbh. Just because Chobot is a gaming personality who happens to be well known,
guess what? Charlie Sheen is an accomplished movie actor, and then there is
everyone else in the industry and this game who are at different levels of the
industry respectively. So when you say Voice actors get the short shrift...
you're right... and guess what, you just committed the same atrocity you
claimed. You are giving Chobot the short shrift, simply because you do not know
her... Oh yeah and what do you classify as "qualified"? Charlie isn't
qualified? Y'vonne, what about her? How about Ali Hillis?
Weird question, but who gave you the measuring stick on who's qualified?
[/quote]
Charlie Sheen has done voice acting, but he is not a voice
actor. He is an actor. The jobs are not the same. I venture if you ask him he’ll
tell you the same. Accomplished actors do not always make the best voice
actors. It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
Atrocity? Really. All because I don’t know her? Let me
repeat this bit from up above, it obviously bears repeating. I’m not criticizing her actual voice
acting, I never have. I’m concerned
about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Again, It.
Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
At what point did I declare myself the final judge on
qualifications? I was stating my opinions and the reasoning behind them. End of
story.
Oh, hey, weird question, but who gave you the measuring
stick on what is valid in people’s opinions?
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The only
qualification you have on this issue is you money, and sad to say, that carries
weight, but not enough.
[/quote]
This part is
a little hard to understand. You’re saying there is something more important to
a business at the end of the day than making money? Clearly you have never been
in business.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The best you
can do for BioWare at this point is drop $79 for the CE version out of the
millions they WILL make on this game, so I guess that means, your measurement
of qualify doesn't... wait for it... qualify?
[/quote]
Are you implying
I want BioWare to fail or to succeed? I’ve already preordered the game (x2) and,
as stated earlier, I have no intention of canceling. Also, I have no idea what a measurement of
qualify is. I’ll assume you mean quality. For the third time, I’ll say this: I’m
not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience
will affect her voice acting. You admit initially my point is fair, but then argue it to death. I have no idea why you have appointed your self Chobot's champion or why, of all the vitrol spewing hate-mongers in the thread you decided to take offense at me, but I think I've been feeding a troll.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Just WOW!
[/quote]
Wow, indeed.
[/quote]
DIDN'T READ LOL
SIDE CHARACTER LOL
BSN LOL
[/quote]
LOL
[quote]Thessair wrote...
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Again, fair, but really? You don't see how what you said is all the more reason
not to prejudge???
You have no info on her! right? You just said it. Why not wait to "GET
INFO ON HER" by doing something like... let say... waiting to play to game
and see, instead of filling threads with "WHO THE F*** is this
person" "WTH is BioWare thinking?!?!"
You've got to be kidding me man! LOL! The tone of your earlier post do NOT
reflect this suddenly adopted mellow attitude. I am not sayin you were irate or
hateful or spiteful either, I am just saying your tone has simply changed.
[/quote]
My first post on the subject was this:
[quote] Thessair wrote…
I do very much hate to be a
Negative Nelly, but without any evidence of skill (or lack thereof) in VA work
this kind of smacks of stunt casting. I'm not especially keen on the
Chobot/Allers thing.
[/quote]
A statement I have not wavered from. I added that statement
to this:
[quote[ Thessair wrote…
While I'm willing to give
this Chobot thing the benefit of the doubt, this was clearly a role that could
have gone to an actual VA. Just because she is a "reporter" in real
life, it doesn't mean she'll be any good at portraying a character in that
profession. Look at the various athletes, political officials, etc. who have
played roles in fictional properties and been wooden and uncomfortable.
[/quote]
My position hasn’t changed, are you confusing me with
someone else? I’m not keen on her casting (first point) but I’m willing to give
her the benefit of the doubt (second point). Same tone and opinion I’ve had all
along.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Also no, I don't
paint people who disagree with me as hating her. Look upward a few post and my
point will be made. [/quote]
Allow me to remind you of this:
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
I'd venture to say that you just dislike her and
for whatever reason have a predisposition on why BioWare might have hired
her... lets say the whole "hire her for her looks" position.
[/quote]
I have all the infomation I need to form an initial opinion
on her qualifications as a VA: her past experience in the field, none. The
distinction you are not making is that I’m not criticizing her actual voice
acting. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice
acting. Close, but not the same thing.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Okay, lets say you are saying exactly what you want to say. Well, a voice actor
is a voice actor. You can classify them all you want. Charlie Sheen is a VA,
Jessica Chobot is now a VA. You can deduce that Charlie has more experienced,
but they are two people in the same industry. That's s form of discrimination
tbh. Just because Chobot is a gaming personality who happens to be well known,
guess what? Charlie Sheen is an accomplished movie actor, and then there is
everyone else in the industry and this game who are at different levels of the
industry respectively. So when you say Voice actors get the short shrift...
you're right... and guess what, you just committed the same atrocity you
claimed. You are giving Chobot the short shrift, simply because you do not know
her... Oh yeah and what do you classify as "qualified"? Charlie isn't
qualified? Y'vonne, what about her? How about Ali Hillis?
Weird question, but who gave you the measuring stick on who's qualified?
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Charlie Sheen has done voice acting, but he is not a voice
actor. He is an actor. The jobs are not the same. I venture if you ask him he’ll
tell you the same. Accomplished actors do not always make the best voice
actors. It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
Atrocity? Really. All because I don’t know her? Let me
repeat this bit from up above, it obviously bears repeating. I’m not criticizing her actual voice
acting, I never have. I’m concerned
about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Again, It.
Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.
At what point did I declare myself the final judge on
qualifications? I was stating my opinions and the reasoning behind them. End of
story.
Oh, hey, weird question, but who gave you the measuring
stick on what is valid in people’s opinions?
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The only
qualification you have on this issue is you money, and sad to say, that carries
weight, but not enough.
[/quote]
This part is
a little hard to understand. You’re saying there is something more important to
a business at the end of the day than making money? Clearly you have never been
in business.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The best you
can do for BioWare at this point is drop $79 for the CE version out of the
millions they WILL make on this game, so I guess that means, your measurement
of qualify doesn't... wait for it... qualify?
[/quote]
Are you implying
I want BioWare to fail or to succeed? I’ve already preordered the game (x2) and,
as stated earlier, I have no intention of canceling. Also, I have no idea what a measurement of
qualify is. I’ll assume you mean quality. For the third time, I’ll say this: I’m
not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience
will affect her voice acting. You admit initially my point is fair, but then argue it to death. I have no idea why you have appointed your self Chobot's champion or why, of all the vitrol spewing hate-mongers in the thread you decided to take offense at me, but I think I've been feeding a troll.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Just WOW!
[/quote]
Wow, indeed.
[/quote]
DIDN'T READ LOL
SIDE CHARACTER LOL
BSN LOL
[/quote]
LOL
#836
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:46
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I haven't read more than a couple posts at the beginning, but I did watch the video. Where are people getting that Micheal Beattie definitely isn't voicing Mordin?
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Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:48
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Cancer Puppet wrote...
I haven't read more than a couple posts at the beginning, but I did watch the video. Where are people getting that Micheal Beattie definitely isn't voicing Mordin?
By memory Beattie posted he was never asked to do any work on ME3.
It wasn't a can't comment NDA style post either.
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Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:49
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No I am someone that is sick and tired of seeing BSN pull the over sexualized crap card when it comes to Mass Effect 3 and since no one on here has the guts to stand up to this pathetic garbage I will . I am also a Jessica Chobot fan.
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Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:49
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Cancer Puppet wrote...
I haven't read more than a couple posts at the beginning, but I did watch the video. Where are people getting that Micheal Beattie definitely isn't voicing Mordin?
He stated it himself on multiple occasions, when approached by the fans. Bioware never got in touch with him about reprising the role in ME3. We haven't had an official statement though.
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#841
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:50
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clone wars wrote...
who is she
*pic of Jess Chobot in game*
The Normandys on ship reporter.
The way I recall them talking about it, she'll be doing reports about the state of the galaxy after major events.
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Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:53
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I don't even know who Jessica Chobot is, regardless is it just me or do Anderson and Joker look very different compared to previous games? Not sure if it's thicker beard on Joker but Anderson's facial features have all changed. But Chobot's character does not extremely strange, a real butter face.
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#843
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:54
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Can any one see Femshep doing this?
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#844
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:55
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Deltaboy37-1 wrote...you clearly didnt see earlier post of his. So please save your defense for the court... thnx <_<
It appears you're another who falls into the same pitfall of prejudging. No skin off my back though.
Listen dudes, feel free to use whatever the hell logic you want. I forgot that it is pointless to try to make sense on the BSN. Good luck dudes.
Your narcissism is blaring to say the least, I've been reading the entirety of the thread since the video went live and unfortunetely pre-judging is just a natural reaction, saying that we should all wait until the game has come out to make our own opinions of her talents is foolish especially when she's a "well known" nerd bait in the videogame industry.
Blaming the BSN as a whole based on my demeanor is narrow minded and immature considering I only appear (mostly) around a games launch and sometime afterwards to voice my opinion. DA2 I hung around pretty much from the reveal till a few months after launch, the reason being was that it was an abomination of RPG's with the horrific trends of copy&pasting rooms/removing depth/ridiculous illusion of choice.
There, said my speech, have fun commenting on my comment about my comment not being worthy of commenting on a character/person that is everything wrong with the gaming community today.
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Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:56
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[quote]WolfForce99 wrote...
Can any one see Femshep doing this?
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I've seen Fem shep head but Krogan, smack Wrex down, toss a Turian, punch Turians once and knock them out and go hand to hand with a freking Yahg. Yeah I can see her doing this.
Can any one see Femshep doing this?
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I've seen Fem shep head but Krogan, smack Wrex down, toss a Turian, punch Turians once and knock them out and go hand to hand with a freking Yahg. Yeah I can see her doing this.
#846
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 10:57
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StephanieBengal wrote...
It is laughable to find those that are complaining or just trying to stir up something. After all people were pleading to see more footage, more info, etc.
Well here it is...and yet...yeah folks still aren't happy.
Oh well.
To be fair, people have the right to voice their censure and concerns. They absolutely have the right to like or dislike any character or aspect of the game. Just because this is Bioware’s forums, not everyone has to be 100% pleased with every.single.thing. Sycophants can be just as annoying as the haters. If someone is not a fan of an actor, of course they will be concerned about the quality of a character. That being said, voicing complaints and concerns should be done without being insulting and crass.
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Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 11:01
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@KBomb
I wish there were more people like you who stand in the middle of the spectrum, than those who can only deal in absolutes.
I wish there were more people like you who stand in the middle of the spectrum, than those who can only deal in absolutes.
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#848
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 11:03
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KBomb wrote...
StephanieBengal wrote...
It is laughable to find those that are complaining or just trying to stir up something. After all people were pleading to see more footage, more info, etc.
Well here it is...and yet...yeah folks still aren't happy.
Oh well.
To be fair, people have the right to voice their censure and concerns. They absolutely have the right to like or dislike any character or aspect of the game. Just because this is Bioware’s forums, not everyone has to be 100% pleased with every.single.thing. Sycophants can be just as annoying as the haters. If someone is not a fan of an actor, of course they will be concerned about the quality of a character. That being said, voicing complaints and concerns should be done without being insulting and crass.
Agreed - there is nothing wrong with having opinions or views or even discussing them and bringing them up.
But attacking other fans? Thats just not on.
#849
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 11:03
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Good video. As someone else said, I imagine this isn't nearly exhaustive on new voices - even among the old, Meer wasn't in there.
Green & Helfer really got to record together? Awesome. Were there any other actors who got to record live like that, or is Shepard in just too much of the dialogue to make that work?
Indeed.
Green & Helfer really got to record together? Awesome. Were there any other actors who got to record live like that, or is Shepard in just too much of the dialogue to make that work?
1136342t54 wrote...
WolfForce99 wrote...
Can any one see Femshep doing this?
I've seen Fem shep head but Krogan, smack Wrex down, toss a Turian, punch Turians once and knock them out and go hand to hand with a freking Yahg. Yeah I can see her doing this.
Indeed.
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#850
Posté 31 janvier 2012 - 11:06
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[quote]Thessair wrote...
My first post on the subject was this:
[quote] Thessair wrote…
I do very much hate to be a Negative Nelly, but without any evidence of skill (or lack thereof) in VA work this kind of smacks of stunt casting. I'm not especially keen on the Chobot/Allers thing.
[/quote]
A statement I have not wavered from. I added this statement:
[quote]Thessair wrote…
While I'm willing to give this Chobot thing the benefit of the doubt, this was clearly a role that could
have gone to an actual VA. Just because she is a "reporter" in real life, it doesn't mean she'll be any good at portraying a character in that profession. Look at the various athletes, political officials, etc. who have played roles in fictional properties and been wooden and uncomfortable.
[/quote]
My position hasn’t changed, are you confusing me with someone else? I’m not keen on her casting (first point) but I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt (second point). Same tone and opinion I’ve had all along. [/quote]
No I am not confusing you. Read what you quoted of yourself again. My point is made.
[quote][quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Also no, I don't paint people who disagree with me as hating her. Look upward a few post and my
point will be made. [/quote]
Allow me to remind you of this:
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
I'd venture to say that you just dislike her and for whatever reason have a predisposition on why BioWare might have hired her... lets say the whole "hire her for her looks" position. [/quote][/quote]
again, read this again. I didn't paint you, I said I venture to say as in probing you to see if you would clarify my statement or refute it. I never made a matter-of-fact statement claiming you hated her. Nice try though buddy.
[quote]I have all the infomation I need to form an initial opinion on her qualifications as a VA: her past experience in the field, none. The distinction you are not making is that I’m not criticizing her actual voice acting. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Close, but not the same thing.[/quote]
And I assume you were ok with people doubting you before you had a chance to prove yourself? Tell me your answer to this is YES, because otherwise, there is a word I can use that woud sum you up perfectly. (but alas, I don't want an infraction)
[quote][quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Okay, lets say you are saying exactly what you want to say. Well, a voice actor is a voice actor. You can classify them all you want. Charlie Sheen is a VA, Jessica Chobot is now a VA. You can deduce that Charlie has more experienced, but they are two people in the same industry. That's s form of discrimination tbh. Just because Chobot is a gaming personality who happens to be well known, guess what? Charlie Sheen is an accomplished movie actor, and then there is everyone else in the industry and this game who are at different levels of the
industry respectively. So when you say Voice actors get the short shrift... you're right... and guess what, you just committed the same atrocity you claimed. You are giving Chobot the short shrift, simply because you do not know
her... Oh yeah and what do you classify as "qualified"? Charlie isn't qualified? Y'vonne, what about her? How about Ali Hillis?
Weird question, but who gave you the measuring stick on who's qualified?
[/quote]
Charlie Sheen has done voice acting, but he is not a voice actor. He is an actor. The jobs are not the same. I venture if you ask him he’ll tell you the same. Accomplished actors do not always make the best voice
actors
. It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing. [/quote][/quote]
Did you read this before you hit submit, because you actually proved my claim in this statement. They're jobs are the same when it comes to ME. Charlie is not acting in this game... he is voice acting the same as Chobot, so you have no argument here. Back to the whole "you proved my point" thing. Let me show you how you did just that. look at the bolded area of your post... now answer this question: So why do you automatically feel Chobot will do a bad job and isn't VO material? As you so claim she is NOT an accomplished actor, so why not give her a chance?
You just argued my point. Thanks... really.
[quote]Atrocity? Really. All because I don’t know her? Do you know her? Let me repeat this bit from up above, it obviously bears repeating. I’m not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Again, It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing. [/quote]
That is a moot point, because neither am I. I said to that argument point that Chobot was hired by BioWare and given that this is the last game of the series, I am fairly sure they want it to be a success and bad VA arent good for business. Follow the dollar signs and you will find proof that there is just as much reason to be hopeful for her role as you say it is to be pessimistic.
[quote]At what point did I declare myself the final judge on qualifications? I was stating my opinions and the reasoning behind them. End of story.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The only qualification you have on this issue is you money, and sad to say, that carries weight, but not enough.
[/quote]
Are you saying there is something more important to a business at the end of the day than making money? Clearly you have never been in business.[/quote]
Not at all. Plus you are talking to a business major (soon to hold Masters degree), current accountant (hired yesterday, new job yesterday... thanks a ton! been in the industry for years now though. What I am saying is that clearly not nearly as many people hold the same reservations you do regarding Chobot, so the dollars lost there really are insignificant.
[quote][quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The best you can do for BioWare at this point is drop $79 for the CE version out of the millions they WILL make on this game, so I guess that means, your measurement of qualify doesn't... wait for it... qualify?
[/quote]
Are you implying I want BioWare to fail or to succeed? I’ve already preordered the game (x2) and, as stated earlier, I have no intention of canceling. Also, I have no idea what a measurement of qualify is. I’ll assume you mean quality. For the third time, I’ll say this: I’m not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. You admit initially my point is fair, but then argue it to death. I have no idea why you have appointed your self Chobot's champion or why, of all the vitrol spewing hate-mongers in the thread you decided to take offense at me, but I think I've been feeding a troll. [/quote]
No, truthfully I just quoted your initial response and indeed it is intended for those spewing such hate for her. I have already said I was not a Chobot champion, my position comes from principle. It could be Chobot or anyone who is super harshly criticized because this is their first time doing something. So much fail in that logic. I say your point of view is fair, because it is. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and however they want to feel about something. But as you have an opinion, so do I and since this is a free speech zone, I have just exercised it.
aaaandd.... *sigh* why is that when someone runs out of argument, they call the other person with whom they are arguing a troll?
That word is thrown around so much these days.
[quote][quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Just WOW!
[/quote]
Wow, indeed.
[/quote]
yep. WOW is the operative word.
My first post on the subject was this:
[quote] Thessair wrote…
I do very much hate to be a Negative Nelly, but without any evidence of skill (or lack thereof) in VA work this kind of smacks of stunt casting. I'm not especially keen on the Chobot/Allers thing.
[/quote]
A statement I have not wavered from. I added this statement:
[quote]Thessair wrote…
While I'm willing to give this Chobot thing the benefit of the doubt, this was clearly a role that could
have gone to an actual VA. Just because she is a "reporter" in real life, it doesn't mean she'll be any good at portraying a character in that profession. Look at the various athletes, political officials, etc. who have played roles in fictional properties and been wooden and uncomfortable.
[/quote]
My position hasn’t changed, are you confusing me with someone else? I’m not keen on her casting (first point) but I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt (second point). Same tone and opinion I’ve had all along. [/quote]
No I am not confusing you. Read what you quoted of yourself again. My point is made.
[quote][quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Also no, I don't paint people who disagree with me as hating her. Look upward a few post and my
point will be made. [/quote]
Allow me to remind you of this:
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
I'd venture to say that you just dislike her and for whatever reason have a predisposition on why BioWare might have hired her... lets say the whole "hire her for her looks" position. [/quote][/quote]
again, read this again. I didn't paint you, I said I venture to say as in probing you to see if you would clarify my statement or refute it. I never made a matter-of-fact statement claiming you hated her. Nice try though buddy.
[quote]I have all the infomation I need to form an initial opinion on her qualifications as a VA: her past experience in the field, none. The distinction you are not making is that I’m not criticizing her actual voice acting. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Close, but not the same thing.[/quote]
And I assume you were ok with people doubting you before you had a chance to prove yourself? Tell me your answer to this is YES, because otherwise, there is a word I can use that woud sum you up perfectly. (but alas, I don't want an infraction)
[quote][quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Okay, lets say you are saying exactly what you want to say. Well, a voice actor is a voice actor. You can classify them all you want. Charlie Sheen is a VA, Jessica Chobot is now a VA. You can deduce that Charlie has more experienced, but they are two people in the same industry. That's s form of discrimination tbh. Just because Chobot is a gaming personality who happens to be well known, guess what? Charlie Sheen is an accomplished movie actor, and then there is everyone else in the industry and this game who are at different levels of the
industry respectively. So when you say Voice actors get the short shrift... you're right... and guess what, you just committed the same atrocity you claimed. You are giving Chobot the short shrift, simply because you do not know
her... Oh yeah and what do you classify as "qualified"? Charlie isn't qualified? Y'vonne, what about her? How about Ali Hillis?
Weird question, but who gave you the measuring stick on who's qualified?
[/quote]
Charlie Sheen has done voice acting, but he is not a voice actor. He is an actor. The jobs are not the same. I venture if you ask him he’ll tell you the same. Accomplished actors do not always make the best voice
actors
. It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing. [/quote][/quote]
Did you read this before you hit submit, because you actually proved my claim in this statement. They're jobs are the same when it comes to ME. Charlie is not acting in this game... he is voice acting the same as Chobot, so you have no argument here. Back to the whole "you proved my point" thing. Let me show you how you did just that. look at the bolded area of your post... now answer this question: So why do you automatically feel Chobot will do a bad job and isn't VO material? As you so claim she is NOT an accomplished actor, so why not give her a chance?
You just argued my point. Thanks... really.
[quote]Atrocity? Really. All because I don’t know her? Do you know her? Let me repeat this bit from up above, it obviously bears repeating. I’m not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. Again, It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing. [/quote]
That is a moot point, because neither am I. I said to that argument point that Chobot was hired by BioWare and given that this is the last game of the series, I am fairly sure they want it to be a success and bad VA arent good for business. Follow the dollar signs and you will find proof that there is just as much reason to be hopeful for her role as you say it is to be pessimistic.
[quote]At what point did I declare myself the final judge on qualifications? I was stating my opinions and the reasoning behind them. End of story.
[quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The only qualification you have on this issue is you money, and sad to say, that carries weight, but not enough.
[/quote]
Are you saying there is something more important to a business at the end of the day than making money? Clearly you have never been in business.[/quote]
Not at all. Plus you are talking to a business major (soon to hold Masters degree), current accountant (hired yesterday, new job yesterday... thanks a ton! been in the industry for years now though. What I am saying is that clearly not nearly as many people hold the same reservations you do regarding Chobot, so the dollars lost there really are insignificant.
[quote][quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
The best you can do for BioWare at this point is drop $79 for the CE version out of the millions they WILL make on this game, so I guess that means, your measurement of qualify doesn't... wait for it... qualify?
[/quote]
Are you implying I want BioWare to fail or to succeed? I’ve already preordered the game (x2) and, as stated earlier, I have no intention of canceling. Also, I have no idea what a measurement of qualify is. I’ll assume you mean quality. For the third time, I’ll say this: I’m not criticizing her actual voice acting, I never have. I’m concerned about how her lack of experience will affect her voice acting. You admit initially my point is fair, but then argue it to death. I have no idea why you have appointed your self Chobot's champion or why, of all the vitrol spewing hate-mongers in the thread you decided to take offense at me, but I think I've been feeding a troll. [/quote]
No, truthfully I just quoted your initial response and indeed it is intended for those spewing such hate for her. I have already said I was not a Chobot champion, my position comes from principle. It could be Chobot or anyone who is super harshly criticized because this is their first time doing something. So much fail in that logic. I say your point of view is fair, because it is. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and however they want to feel about something. But as you have an opinion, so do I and since this is a free speech zone, I have just exercised it.
aaaandd.... *sigh* why is that when someone runs out of argument, they call the other person with whom they are arguing a troll?
That word is thrown around so much these days.
[quote][quote]Deltaboy37-1 wrote...
Just WOW!
[/quote]
Wow, indeed.
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yep. WOW is the operative word.
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