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[slimgrin]

Why do celebrities need to be in my game? Where the hell is Emily Wong?

[CrutchCricket]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

But seriously, my problem (I know, it's my problem) is how the bashing become about her than the character? That is cold in my book.

The reason the "bashing" has gone from Allers to Chobot is because we have evidence that suggests that Allers IS Chobot, in the sense that she has Chobot's face, and sort-of Chobot's job, and might even have the exact same personality.

I'm sorry what evidence apart from the physical? If you know something I don't, please share.

[100k]

I did notice something that you guys aren't gonna like...

Aller's has Ash's same hair. Copy pasting...

[1136342t54_]

slimgrin wrote...

Why do celebrities need to be in my game? Where the hell is Emily Wong?

Probably reporting somewhere else where she isn't likely to disintegrated. Not every reporter wants to be a war reporter.

[Bat32391]

I have a question does every character in mass effect have a support thread?

[nitefyre410]

Bat32391 wrote...

I have a question does every character in mass effect have a support thread?

 

Yes 

[AdmiralCheez]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I'm sorry what evidence apart from the physical? If you know something I don't, please share.

Well, look at the difference between the interview with Jessica and the interview with Freddie.

Jessica referred to "I" and "me" alone, and did not ONCE say ANYTHING about Diana as a character.  Freddie, meanwhile, talked about how Vega is a "no-nonsense soldier who is based on a real life army captain."  Sure, he says, "I get to play myself and I hope I have cool powers," but he still describes Vega as a SEPERATE ENTITY.

[PMC65]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

But seriously, my problem (I know, it's my problem) is how the bashing become about her than the character? That is cold in my book.

The reason the "bashing" has gone from Allers to Chobot is because we have evidence that suggests that Allers IS Chobot, in the sense that she has Chobot's face, and sort-of Chobot's job, and might even have the exact same personality.

So that makes it okay ... how? She was fortunate to get a role on ME3. Good for her.

We have not seen this character in-game, shouldn't we wait until we have seen the finished product before we start to critique her performance? She might surprise you.

[Lenimph]

Pfft I found out Chobot has a triforce tattoo.

I'm sold.

[nitefyre410]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

I'm sorry what evidence apart from the physical? If you know something I don't, please share.

Well, look at the difference between the interview with Jessica and the interview with Freddie.

Jessica referred to "I" and "me" alone, and did not ONCE say ANYTHING about Diana as a character.  Freddie, meanwhile, talked about how Vega is a "no-nonsense soldier who is based on a real life army captain."  Sure, he says, "I get to play myself and I hope I have cool powers," but he still describes Vega as a SEPERATE ENTITY.

 

That is a very good observation 

[AdmiralCheez]

100k wrote...

I did notice something that you guys aren't gonna like...

Aller's has Ash's same hair. Copy pasting...

Ash's is shorter and parted to the side.

[HolyJellyfish]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

The game forum likely is about a game that mostly panders to white males more than Bioware does. BSN can easily be more annoying due to most Bioware games being in general good and actually does their best to please multiple sides (not always successfully) and it basically brings more complaints. Make some advancements in anything and fans claim it isn't Bioware doing their best because of blah blah whatever. Sure at times its true and I would love some criticism but the criticism isn't really constructive most of the time.

Put it simply the more things Bioware puts in a game no matter how good the more people on here have to complain about which makes it more annoying. 

Oh God this ^ 

This has been my issue day one. If complainers really want to be effective and make this game the best it could be, they would pay attention to the best ways to get their points over. Here is my little guide:

1.) make sure your message is getting to the right people.
   *hint: try writing to the offices for a change.

People do. I know I have, many times. And then I find support on the forums.

2.) Write your complaint in a coherent manner with explanations and possible solutions.

Yes but isn't it arrogant to offer solutions? We aren't the writers. Or the producers. Or the designers. But we are the audience, and if the audience isn't satisfied, then that company can A) Ignore them and lose a good base or  Listen to them and use their creative powers to make solutions.

3.) Don't forget to transform back from troll to human. This is a very common mistake. Folks forget to passify their troll within. 

Eh. I agree.

These are just three of quite a few more constructive ways to actually get BioWare's ear. Some of the complaints I've been a part of were addressed by BioWare in past games and I wonder why? hmmm maybe because I didn't bach them saying they didnt know what they are doing, or that they suck, and that they have lost their touch. Instead I got straight to the point as well as fellow folks who had issues...

Wait... I did it again... I tried to bring logic to the BSN... shame on me <_<

There are a lot of crazy people who don't know how to adequately express their anger. Some just want to vent.

There are just as many crazy people who are INSANELY protective of Bioware's decisions, without ever questioning anything and will jump off a cliff for them if need be.

Its a company. It makes mistakes.

BSN is tame compared to stuff I've seen. It has a more vocal community because the mods try to harvest that.

We will see how things work out once the game comes out. So far I'm pleased that Bioware listens (Liara's Model's breast reduction, S/S romance option in ME3, etc.). But we shall see.

[nitefyre410]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

100k wrote...

I did notice something that you guys aren't gonna like...

Aller's has Ash's same hair. Copy pasting...

Ash's is shorter and parted to the side.

 


Nor is it as messy or disheveled. 

[1136342t54_]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

I'm sorry what evidence apart from the physical? If you know something I don't, please share.

Well, look at the difference between the interview with Jessica and the interview with Freddie.

Jessica referred to "I" and "me" alone, and did not ONCE say ANYTHING about Diana as a character.  Freddie, meanwhile, talked about how Vega is a "no-nonsense soldier who is based on a real life army captain."  Sure, he says, "I get to play myself and I hope I have cool powers," but he still describes Vega as a SEPERATE ENTITY.

Meh I took that interview as more joking and purposely not revealing anything then serious.

[AdmiralCheez]

PMC65 wrote...

So that makes it okay ... how? She was fortunate to get a role on ME3. Good for her.

I'm not bashing, hence why I put it in quotes.  We're all just wondering WHY she got the role.  What's the angle?  Just pure fanservice?

We have not seen this character in-game, shouldn't we wait until we have seen the finished product before we start to critique her performance? She might surprise you.

Ask yourself, would Ashley really have ever gotten armor if we never made a stink about it?

[1136342t54_]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Ask yourself, would Ashley really have ever gotten armor if we never made a stink about it?

I thought it was assumed she already was going to get some armor.

[thatguy212]

So i'm just gonna go ahead and assume that Felicia Day was too busy to voice act again so bioware had to settle with a cheaper "gamer girl", at least this way IGN is going to be giving them a 10/10 review

[WildWilly10]

If she is a LI, this is the only time people can say they got with the Chobot.

Modifié par WildWilly10, 01 février 2012 - 03:01 .

[CrutchCricket]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, look at the difference between the interview with Jessica and the interview with Freddie.

Jessica referred to "I" and "me" alone, and did not ONCE say ANYTHING about Diana as a character.  Freddie, meanwhile, talked about how Vega is a "no-nonsense soldier who is based on a real life army captain."  Sure, he says, "I get to play myself and I hope I have cool powers," but he still describes Vega as a SEPERATE ENTITY.

When describing things in my playthrough(s) I use "I" and "my Shep" interchangably. Your point?

Actually another interesting parallel. A lot of people I talk to on here have loads of playthroughs with various Shepards of all classes and genders. I have one (well two now, I started a femShep). I never see any of them saying "I" in those cases (or at least not very often).

I think you see what I'm getting at here. It's one interview. Let's wait and see before stamping an equal sign and moving on.

[HolyJellyfish]

@nitefyre410

Your English often confuses me, so I apologize if I appear defensive.

[AdmiralCheez]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I think you see what I'm getting at here. It's one interview. Let's wait and see before stamping an equal sign and moving on.

Hey, all I did was give you my first impression.  I WANT her to do a good job, and I WANT Diana Allers to be a cool character.  I'll give her a fair shot come ME3.  But that doesn't mean I don't have... concerns.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 01 février 2012 - 03:03 .

[Volus Warlord]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

I think you see what I'm getting at here. It's one interview. Let's wait and see before stamping an equal sign and moving on.

Hey, all I did was give you my first impression.  I WANT her to do a good job, and I WANT Diana Allers to be a cool character.  I'll give her a fair shot come ME3.  But that doesn't mean I don't have... concerns.

I'm pretty sure you're just hating. 

[slimgrin]

Isn't this basically a product placement? I'm amazed people think this is a good idea. They dumped an old character and replaced her with a celebrity.

Modifié par slimgrin, 01 février 2012 - 03:05 .

[Sgt Stryker]

Yep, you either love BioWare and their games unconditionally, or you're a hater/troll. Get with the times. Constructive criticism is so 2011.