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[AdmiralCheez]

PMC65 wrote...

I understand that some people require armor, big bulky armor even, to enjoy their game. I saw the debates how "Ashley is a soldier ... give her armor!" was flung around and I'm glad to see that the armor crowd were placated.

There was more to it than that, but I'm soooo glad you don't even bother trying to get the concept.

If you are wondering why the character is in the game, why a reporter is needed on the Normandy ... we will know in-game. Or are you saying that you do not want a reporter on the Normandy, or that the character must be in armor, s/s relationship?

Of COURSE the game will tell us why she's there!  Having the press on the Normandy could make for an interesting angle, even.  But it will be incredibly obvious if this character was just forced in, even if she's a salarian dalatrass or whatever.

If you are asking why she, the person, got the job ... ask Bioware. Does it bother you that this gal got a role in ME3? Are you afraid that this is a Sofia Coppola in Godfather PT III? As far as putting her in the game as fanservice ... probably. So was Martin Sheen, Carrie-Anne Moss, Seth Green, etc.

Martin Sheen, Carrie-Anne Moss, and Seth Green are all actors that auditioned for the roles.  I'm bothered because they not only gave this character the face and voice of an IGN reporter, but made her a love interest, and so far I don't have enough reason or evidence to think she's anything MORE than (very) creepy fanservice and possibly some weird sort of corporate circlejerk.

Seriously, how would you feel if the last installment in a major gaming title let you have sex with the Angry Video Game Nerd?

At least Yvonne played a CHARACTER in the game.  If Diana is a CHARACTER and NOT a thinly-veiled excuse to sneak in a semi-celebrity, she'll be fine.  But right now, I get the sneaking suspicion that she's like that obnoxious guest star who only joined the show to bump up ratings.  I really want ME3 to prove me wrong here--if Chobot can be a successful voice actor, she can ditch the stupid IGN gig and make it on her own.

[nitefyre410]

thatguy212 wrote...

Good news to anyone who doesn't like her, there's leaked footage showing her get punched in the face

 



You know....I hate this say because I'm never an advocate for voilence against women unless in extreme self defense situations buuuuuuuuut.   I'm not  saying I would've  done it but I understand...still not right but I understand. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 01 février 2012 - 03:25 .

[android654]

1136342t54 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

android654 wrote...

Yeah because Mass Effect fans just love the West Wing enough to crave Martin Sheen.

Haha.

Actually - The West Wing was fantastic. I loved it.

As did I, but I'm a political junkie so that show was designed for me. What I'm getting at is Martin Shee and Jennifer Hale have way more in their resume than just one thing. This person just have a website which gamers fawn over. How did you think people would react? My main concern is the character design, I visually can't respect her as a journalist, she seems too impractical.

I've seen this often in this thread. How is she so popular that people generalize gamers or male gamers as people who will fawn over? I love Olivia Munn mostly because of the hilarity she brought to Attack of the Show but I haven't heard much at all about Jessica Chobot. 

Well like I said my main gripe is her character design. But from what the others have said it seems like hiring her was a calculated move. I just would've liked our journalist to look like she took her job seriously.

[DigitalMaster37]

nitefyre410 wrote...

thatguy212 wrote...

Good news to anyone who doesn't like her, there's leaked footage showing her get punched in the face

 



You know....I hate this say because I never an advocate for voilence against women unless in extreme self defense situations buuuuuuuuutt 

She had it coming 

WTH is that snookie??

[AdmiralCheez]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Do you really wonder? It's quite obvious why she was hired. She's the nerdgasm of IGN readers, the fact that she is in the game and you can do her is just going to attract an enormous crowd.

There's a reason I'm trying to put off thinking about it until after I've played ME3, you know.

[Icinix]

android654 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

android654 wrote...

Yeah because Mass Effect fans just love the West Wing enough to crave Martin Sheen.

Haha.

Actually - The West Wing was fantastic. I loved it.

As did I, but I'm a political junkie so that show was designed for me. What I'm getting at is Martin Sheen and Jennifer Hale have way more in their resume than just one thing. This person just have a website which gamers fawn over. How did you think people would react? My main concern is the character design, I visually can't respect her as a journalist, she seems too impractical.

No I don't disagree with you at all.

But I remember a loud rally at our government house steps in my home city. There was a reporter there, and before filming she spent about ten minutes smoothing out her figure hugging black skirt and she had a tight blouse with enough buttons undone to reveal a good bit of cleavage. She then proceeded to spend about five minutes with the largest can of hair spray I have ever seen making sure her long hair was flowing down all around her shoulders and did not budge. Then once completed - she started reporting.

I watched her for so long because I was about 15 and this was the highlight of my day.

Anyway my point is - I think visually there is nothing wrong with her journalistic look - her ability to act and report on deep, soul shattering reports is what I would like to see.

Regardless - Emily wong wore a dress with a cleavage hole in it my memory didn't she?

Chobot looks like shes wearing an Adidas running dress.

[1136342t54_]

android654 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

android654 wrote...

Yeah because Mass Effect fans just love the West Wing enough to crave Martin Sheen.

Haha.

Actually - The West Wing was fantastic. I loved it.

As did I, but I'm a political junkie so that show was designed for me. What I'm getting at is Martin Shee and Jennifer Hale have way more in their resume than just one thing. This person just have a website which gamers fawn over. How did you think people would react? My main concern is the character design, I visually can't respect her as a journalist, she seems too impractical.

I've seen this often in this thread. How is she so popular that people generalize gamers or male gamers as people who will fawn over? I love Olivia Munn mostly because of the hilarity she brought to Attack of the Show but I haven't heard much at all about Jessica Chobot. 

Well like I said my main gripe is her character design. But from what the others have said it seems like hiring her was a calculated move. I just would've liked our journalist to look like she took her job seriously.

It still doesn't answer my question about the generalization or is it that your own gripes was the cause of that generalization?

Sure her getting hired was possibly due to marketing reasons but they said the same thing about Felicia Day and I actually liked Tallis. Doesn't mean because I'm a male gamer I'm automatically going to like her.

[1136342t54_]

Icinix wrote...

Regardless - Emily wong wore a dress with a cleavage hole in it my memory didn't she?

Pretty much but then again she changed her clothes later on in the game. The main assumption around here is that Diana Allers will go into Battle with a dress. I seriously doubt that but hey others have the right to their opinion.

[PMC65]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

I understand that some people require armor, big bulky armor even, to enjoy their game. I saw the debates how "Ashley is a soldier ... give her armor!" was flung around and I'm glad to see that the armor crowd were placated.

There was more to it than that, but I'm soooo glad you don't even bother trying to get the concept.

If you are wondering why the character is in the game, why a reporter is needed on the Normandy ... we will know in-game. Or are you saying that you do not want a reporter on the Normandy, or that the character must be in armor, s/s relationship?

Of COURSE the game will tell us why she's there!  Having the press on the Normandy could make for an interesting angle, even.  But it will be incredibly obvious if this character was just forced in, even if she's a salarian dalatrass or whatever.

If you are asking why she, the person, got the job ... ask Bioware. Does it bother you that this gal got a role in ME3? Are you afraid that this is a Sofia Coppola in Godfather PT III? As far as putting her in the game as fanservice ... probably. So was Martin Sheen, Carrie-Anne Moss, Seth Green, etc.

Martin Sheen, Carrie-Anne Moss, and Seth Green are all actors that auditioned for the roles.  I'm bothered because they not only gave this character the face and voice of an IGN reporter, but made her a love interest, and so far I don't have enough reason or evidence to think she's anything MORE than (very) creepy fanservice and possibly some weird sort of corporate circlejerk.

Seriously, how would you feel if the last installment in a major gaming title let you have sex with the Angry Video Game Nerd?

At least Yvonne played a CHARACTER in the game.  If Diana is a CHARACTER and NOT a thinly-veiled excuse to sneak in a semi-celebrity, she'll be fine.  But right now, I get the sneaking suspicion that she's like that obnoxious guest star who only joined the show to bump up ratings.  I really want ME3 to prove me wrong here--if Chobot can be a successful voice actor, she can ditch the stupid IGN gig and make it on her own.

Trust me, I know that there was more to the Ash debate ... I had to read it everyday in the Ash thread and honestly it got to where I just couldn't care one way or the other.

If this person is put in the game so that the geek boys have someone to oogle, so be it. If she is horrendous then I will be right on the bandwagon asking CHud WTF? Really? But until then, I will give that character a chance.

[PMC65]

1136342t54 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Regardless - Emily wong wore a dress with a cleavage hole in it my memory didn't she?

Pretty much but then again she changed her clothes later on in the game. The main assumption around here is that Diana Allers will go into Battle with a dress. I seriously doubt that but hey others have the right to their opinion.

Is it confirmed that she will be on the battlefield? Or will she be interviewing after missions on the Normandy or after the dust settles?

[PrinceLionheart]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

I never an advocate for violence against women unless in extreme self defense situations

As a side note, that attitude is sexist. Either be nonviolent, or be violent.

I've always been of the stance that self-defense is fair game, against either sex. But I'll drop the subject, less the thread gets derailed/

[android654]

Icinix wrote...

android654 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

android654 wrote...

Yeah because Mass Effect fans just love the West Wing enough to crave Martin Sheen.

Haha.

Actually - The West Wing was fantastic. I loved it.

As did I, but I'm a political junkie so that show was designed for me. What I'm getting at is Martin Sheen and Jennifer Hale have way more in their resume than just one thing. This person just have a website which gamers fawn over. How did you think people would react? My main concern is the character design, I visually can't respect her as a journalist, she seems too impractical.

No I don't disagree with you at all.

But I remember a loud rally at our government house steps in my home city. There was a reporter there, and before filming she spent about ten minutes smoothing out her figure hugging black skirt and she had a tight blouse with enough buttons undone to reveal a good bit of cleavage. She then proceeded to spend about five minutes with the largest can of hair spray I have ever seen making sure her long hair was flowing down all around her shoulders and did not budge. Then once completed - she started reporting.

I watched her for so long because I was about 15 and this was the highlight of my day.

Anyway my point is - I think visually there is nothing wrong with her journalistic look - her ability to act and report on deep, soul shattering reports is what I would like to see.

Regardless - Emily wong wore a dress with a cleavage hole in it my memory didn't she?

Chobot looks like shes wearing an Adidas running dress.

That's covering a political story, very different context. I have family that works on K street, and there image really is everything. That being said, she's in a war zone, the dress is impractical and laughable. Its a shame because I think the idea is kind of cool.

In the first shot I saw, I thought, "Oh, she's wearing a tank top, probably some bdu's or some track pants to fit in with the soldiers on the ship, sounds cool." Now she jsut looks like someone on fox news who's dressed up to look attractive rather than practical and serious about her work.

It would've been cool the have a Lara Logan

[1136342t54_]

PMC65 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Regardless - Emily wong wore a dress with a cleavage hole in it my memory didn't she?

Pretty much but then again she changed her clothes later on in the game. The main assumption around here is that Diana Allers will go into Battle with a dress. I seriously doubt that but hey others have the right to their opinion.

Is it confirmed that she will be on the battlefield? Or will she be interviewing after missions on the Normandy or after the dust settles?

Nope but again it is assumed by most.

[PMC65]

1136342t54 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Regardless - Emily wong wore a dress with a cleavage hole in it my memory didn't she?

Pretty much but then again she changed her clothes later on in the game. The main assumption around here is that Diana Allers will go into Battle with a dress. I seriously doubt that but hey others have the right to their opinion.

Is it confirmed that she will be on the battlefield? Or will she be interviewing after missions on the Normandy or after the dust settles?

Nope but again it is assumed by most.

Ahhh ... assume

[AdmiralCheez]

PMC65 wrote...

Trust me, I know that there was more to the Ash debate ... I had to read it everyday in the Ash thread and honestly it got to where I just couldn't care one way or the other.

But you GET why people were upset, right?  How Bioware can REALLY mess up when it comes to the portrayal of their female characters?  This may be a similar problem, and it unfortunately cheapens the game.

If this person is put in the game so that the geek boys have someone to oogle, so be it. If she is horrendous then I will be right on the bandwagon asking CHud WTF? Really? But until then, I will give that character a chance.

Same here.  I'm just getting my fanwangst out of my system ahead of time.  This is pretty high up on my "lolwut" scale.  Hopefully Chobot will rock as Allers.  Knock 'em dead, Jessie.

But if she doesn't, then the players, the developers, and Chobot will all suffer from it.  Chobot because her reputation would be ruined just when she was starting to get somewhere, Bioware because they would have made a dumb decision in order to drag in just a few more sales, and the players because we were sold for suckers.

So for the sake of all parties involved, Jessie, you'd better seriously knock 'em dead.

[android654]

1136342t54 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Regardless - Emily wong wore a dress with a cleavage hole in it my memory didn't she?

Pretty much but then again she changed her clothes later on in the game. The main assumption around here is that Diana Allers will go into Battle with a dress. I seriously doubt that but hey others have the right to their opinion.

Is it confirmed that she will be on the battlefield? Or will she be interviewing after missions on the Normandy or after the dust settles?

Nope but again it is assumed by most.

Even if she's on the ship the whole time, she's dressed very impractically. Does any woman here honestly chose to wear a dress out of comfort? If they were a war correspondent in a military camp?

[1136342t54_]

PMC65 wrote...
Ahhh ... assume

Yeah this is mostly speculation so I wouldn't take all of this discussion as if its fact.

[slimgrin]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

 but made her a love interest, and so far I don't have enough reason or evidence to think she's anything MORE than (very) creepy fanservice and possibly some weird sort of corporate circlejerk.

Lol, you've summed it up better than me.

[1136342t54_]

android654 wrote...
Even if she's on the ship the whole time, she's dressed very impractically. Does any woman here honestly chose to wear a dress out of comfort? If they were a war correspondent in a military camp?

Military camp far different than a futuristic Military starship I wouldn't necessarily compare equally. You already know my opinion on it. I don't care too much about it if she wears it on the ship and that still is an assumption. Just like how everyone assumes she will go into battle wearing that dress.

[nitefyre410]

@AdmiralCheez If she is horrid character and just a Tacked at a lame attempt at fan service then I be first in line with fresh tar, feathers,, torches and pitch forks Whats going to drive more crazy is that Bioware is making some lame shot appealing to the JRPG/Anime crowd with fan service not understanding that most of the time its play just for the laughs. Even Shows like High School of the Dead which is pretty dark its played for laughs to lighten tone of mood some.

[Relix28]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

I'm pretty sure you're just hating.

No, if I were hating on her, it'd go like this:

OMG WHO IS THIS UGLY BEEYOTCH
IS SHE SOME IGN BIMBO OMG BIOWARE IS SO STUPID
SHE LOOKS LIKE SNOOKIE AND JESSICA CHOBOT IS A TALENTLESS HACK
I AM NOT LETTING HER ON MY SHIP!!!1!!!1exclamationpoint!!11!oneoneone

Seriously, all I want is for her to do a really good job.  If she does, then her role is more than justified (hell, I'll probably like her).  If she doesn't, then I am REALLY going to wonder what the hell Bioware was thinking when they cast her.

Hey, Bioware hired Dietz to write their latest novel. And they reviewed it and gave it the OK. In fact, Casey Hudson himself also reviewed it and said it was "a really fun lead-in to ME3". Proof: twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson/status/101362747836604417
Nothing should come as a surprise anymore when it comes to Bioware's questionable decisions. And now Jessica "Snooki" Chobot stars in ME3. We all know how that's gonna go...it's pretty damn obvious why she's there.

[android654]

jreezy wrote...

android654 wrote...
This person just have a website which gamers fawn over. 

Incorrect.

She presents herself as someone with substance rather than some personality that reviews games online and gamers have a love affair with?