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[Icinix]

android654 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

android654 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

android654 wrote...

Yeah because Mass Effect fans just love the West Wing enough to crave Martin Sheen.

Haha.

Actually - The West Wing was fantastic. I loved it.

As did I, but I'm a political junkie so that show was designed for me. What I'm getting at is Martin Sheen and Jennifer Hale have way more in their resume than just one thing. This person just have a website which gamers fawn over. How did you think people would react? My main concern is the character design, I visually can't respect her as a journalist, she seems too impractical.

No I don't disagree with you at all.

But I remember a loud rally at our government house steps in my home city. There was a reporter there, and before filming she spent about ten minutes smoothing out her figure hugging black skirt and she had a tight blouse with enough buttons undone to reveal a good bit of cleavage. She then proceeded to spend about five minutes with the largest can of hair spray I have ever seen making sure her long hair was flowing down all around her shoulders and did not budge. Then once completed - she started reporting.

I watched her for so long because I was about 15 and this was the highlight of my day.

Anyway my point is - I think visually there is nothing wrong with her journalistic look - her ability to act and report on deep, soul shattering reports is what I would like to see.

Regardless - Emily wong wore a dress with a cleavage hole in it my memory didn't she?

Chobot looks like shes wearing an Adidas running dress.

That's covering a political story, very different context. I have family that works on K street, and there image really is everything. That being said, she's in a war zone, the dress is impractical and laughable. Its a shame because I think the idea is kind of cool.

In the first shot I saw, I thought, "Oh, she's wearing a tank top, probably some bdu's or some track pants to fit in with the soldiers on the ship, sounds cool." Now she jsut looks like someone on fox news who's dressed up to look attractive rather than practical and serious about her work.

It would've been cool the have a Lara Logan
*reporter wearing armour*

Oh for sure - if she steps anywhere near where there might be a chance of conflict - then she better suit up or GTFO. On the boat though, I see no issue with the dress.

[Me vs Bioware]

android654 wrote...

Me vs Bioware wrote...

android654 wrote...

Me vs Bioware wrote...

i never said man was better then woman. i'm saying some men are douchebags. I'm actually encouraging my gf atm, to become a mechanic. i treat her with respect and would do anything for her.

What you wrote says that women are beholden to men for their protection. That's sexist.

alright, believe what you want. debating on forums is pointless

You wrote

i believe women shouldnt serve in the military, because it is a man's job to protect women

What does that say?

it's a man job to protect women, but im not going to start a debate that gets this thread locked. 

[AdmiralCheez]

100k wrote...

Let me spell it out for you:

1) You. Haven't. Played. The. Game.

Neither have you.

2) She doesn't go into the field.

We don't know that.

3) You don't know Alliance-Network dress code protocol

However, we can make assumptions based on modern military protocol.  And the fact that there are bullets flying around.

4) You aren't the authority on what is appropriate "reporter garb" in the 22nd century.

Neither are you, but again we can draw parallels from modern day.

5) You can't see the entire outfit.

Neither can you, but given what we've seen on Mass Effect ladies in the past, it's not hard to guess.

6) You don't know what "fashion" in the 22nd century is.

What's fashionable in the 22nd century is entirely determined by the concept artists, and they don't exactly have a Tardis or a crystal ball.

Come at me bro

Speaking of Jersey Shore...

[Icinix]

I could watch the good Admiral write forum posts all day.

[HolyAvenger]

Gawd I love it when BSN goes insane like this. I have no opinion on this character. I am not familiar with the model or VA. I reserve judgment till I see her in ME3.


I like her boobs.

[AdmiralCheez]

Me vs Bioware wrote...

it's a man job to protect women, but im not going to start a debate that gets this thread locked.

No, it's not.  It's a PERSON's job to protect the people he or she cares about, and a DECENT PERSON's job to protect anyone that needs it.

For the record, I hold the door open for guys all the time and offer to carry heavy stuff when they're struggling with it.  Totally weirds 'em out.  Like their dicks might fall off if they agree to let me assist them or something.

[Ihatebadgames]

You also don't know what the reporter was able to grab before fleeing or getting the ***L out of Dodge.Lots of military going to be reporting in less than class As.Many without armor,weapons or clean underwear.

[ObserverStatus]

100k wrote...
You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about.
Diana isn't walking around in the field with Shepard. She's on the ship, probably interviewing him, watching footage of him fight, etc. She doesn't need to walk around with body armor on. Hell, she's a reporter, right? Then she probably has the alliance issued kinetic barrier for the occasions when she DOES go into combat.
Logan doesn't walk around with kevlar on unless she needs to. 
Christ on high, why am I even arguing with you people? So many basement dwellers who view the rest of the world through a lens...
:sick::sick:

Because you have nothing better to do but than to troll basement dwellers who view the rest of the world though a lens?

[Icinix]

jreezy wrote...

android654 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

android654 wrote...
This person just have a website which gamers fawn over. 

Incorrect.

She presents herself as someone with substance rather than some personality that reviews games online and gamers have a love affair with?

Actually what's incorrect is that you think all she has going for her is a website which gamers may or may not fawn over.

...well...a large number of gamers do fawn over it 


"Ohh Jess, you're so pretty"
"Bella, I would make you my wife."
"Who is this trollop? BRING BACK THE SEXY ONE."

Quality posts. All of them.

[nitefyre410]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Me vs Bioware wrote...

i never said man was better then woman. i'm saying some men are douchebags. I'm actually encouraging my gf atm, to become a mechanic. i treat her with respect and would do anything for her.

Your post implied that you have a higher opinion of women than you do of men.  That DOES make you sexist.  Women can be douchebags, too.

That's great that your girlfriend is pursing a career in a non-traditional field, and I'm sure she's lucky to have you, but seriously, dude, there'd be more women in the army if you guys didn't feel the need to hold our hands (and if enough of us stopped expecting our hands to be held; it's a two-way street).

 


Hold your hand? nope... 


Not let some jack wagon  fly off and give you a  right hook  to jaw while I stand  there with my thumb  up my ass... oh hell naw . 

Now its great  that you can handle yourself in a fight but your not  fighting by yourself  or all at if  we're hangging out.... Sorry thats just how I was brought up and raised. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 01 février 2012 - 04:13 .

[DiebytheSword]

I'm ambivalent. She was interesting in the leaked info, but she's obviously on display for a certain eye in the finished product. If she can carry the role and the part is written well, it will go far to mitigate any concerns I have.

I've had this discussion about celebration versus objectification before, lets see which one she is.

[LadyofRivendell]

Icinix wrote...

I could watch the good Admiral write forum posts all day.

I know, right? Cheez is the BSN Wizard Never fails to entertain or amaze me.


On the topic of the new character... There's just something about her that puts me off a bit, but I'm hoping they treat her as a respectable character and not another Kelly.

[android654]

100k wrote...

Let me spell it out for you:

1) You. Haven't. Played. The. Game.

I'm debating the character design, I don't need to play the game to talk about the concept art.

2) She doesn't go into the field.

We don't know that.

3) You don't know Alliance-Network dress code protocol

The network doesn't matter since any reporter working with the military as an embedded journalist has to repstect their respective government and military liasons who allow them to work there, not the network.

4) You aren't the authority on what is appropriate "reporter garb" in the 22nd century.

But we know military appropriate attire in this setting and she doesn't fit that in her spanx.

5) You can't see the entire outfit.

You can clearly see its a "sporty dress." Your point?

6) You don't know what "fashion" in the 22nd century is.

What's fashion doesn't matter when you're an embed with the military. They let you know what is and isn't ok to wear when you're under their jurisdiction.

Come at me bro

You sound like a douche.

[Me vs Bioware]

i wonder when this reporter meets shepard, are there any hints?

[KateKane]

So it looks like you can kick her off the Normandy. I guess I have no more complaints.

[DiebytheSword]

nitefyre410 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Me vs Bioware wrote...

i never said man was better then woman. i'm saying some men are douchebags. I'm actually encouraging my gf atm, to become a mechanic. i treat her with respect and would do anything for her.

Your post implied that you have a higher opinion of women than you do of men.  That DOES make you sexist.  Women can be douchebags, too.

That's great that your girlfriend is pursing a career in a non-traditional field, and I'm sure she's lucky to have you, but seriously, dude, there'd be more women in the army if you guys didn't feel the need to hold our hands (and if enough of us stopped expecting our hands to be held; it's a two-way street).

 


Hold your hand... nope... 


Not let some jack wagon  fly off and give you a  right hook  to jaw while I stand  there with my thumb  up my ass... oh hell naw . 

Now its great  that you can handle yourself in a fight but your not  fighting by yourself  or all at if  were out.... Sorry thats just how I was brought up and raised. 

I was raised the same way, my Tae Kwon Do teacher (and later master) beat that out of me.  I now respect women's ability to carry their own.

That's not to say I won't offer my aid, but it won't be because they need my protection, it would be because everyone deserves an offer of my protection.  Equality of opportunities, not outcomes.  Its hard to argue that your being cheuvanistic and you are certainly maintaining your personal morals, honor and integrity.

[MACharlie1]

... I still have no idea who this woman is.

This is completely off-topic and this post will probably go unnoticed but I just realized something Bioware FINALLY did - a problem which I've noticed since KOTOR:

They finally have models heads freakin' attached to the bodies. Before, there was a separate head and body so when rendered in game, it would just be a matter of attaching the two. Simple right? Unfortunately, this meant that the head model and body would receive different lights resulting in the seam between the base of the neck and the shoulders look really obvious. To combat this, designers typically put in a neck piece. Miranda's black choker, t-shirts with high collars, Thane and Samara's metal necklace thing...I can only recall Jacob not having one for his romance scene in ME2 and even then...it was pretty noticeable. During ALL of the nude scenes in ME1, the camera conveniently showed from the NECK up rather then the typical shoulders.Dragon Age always had collars and KOTOR also always had obscenely high collars.

So yeah. Very happy to see that. Though I just realized they did it with Ashley's uniform. But here it's more pronounced.

Wow. I'm such a nerd. >_<

[AdmiralCheez]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Hold your hand? nope...

Not let some jack wagon  fly off and give you a  right hook  to jaw while I stand  there with my thumb  up my ass... oh hell naw . 

Now its great  that you can handle yourself in a fight but your not  fighting by yourself  or all at if  we're hangging out.... Sorry thats just how I was brought up and raised.

Hey, no problem and I'd appreciate it.  Provided you aren't surprised at all when I run up and kick some dude in the nuts if ever he knocks a tooth from your jaw.

[ObserverStatus]

Um, are there any actual screens of the reporter lady on the field, or are we all arguing over the outfit she wears on the Normandy?

[100k]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Neither have you.

Okay. Well, at least I read the leak, especially the dialogue involving her clothing. 

We don't know that.

See above.

However, we can make assumptions based on modern military protocol.  And the fact that there are bullets flying around.

Actually you can't make assumptions. The future in which ME revolves around is COMPLETELY different from modern day, both in political forces, technology, medicine, weapons, alliances, capablities, etc. 

Oh, and there aren't bullets "flying around". You're just babbling to hear yourself babble. 

Neither are you, but again we can draw parallels from modern day.

See above.

Neither can you, but given what we've seen on Mass Effect ladies in the past, it's not hard to guess.

Okay, you go ahead and guess, and I'll TAKE your advice and look at a *seemingly similar outfit within the ME universe: femshep's dress. It was a modest one piece leather dress (non-skin tight) that went to about two to three inches above her knees: the kind of dress I'd expect a politician to wear at a convention.

 But I'm gonna guess that you'll make up some comment about how it was ****ty and made femshep look like a **** pandering for a buck, so we'll just have to leave this alone.

What's fashionable in the 22nd century is entirely determined by the concept artists, and they don't exactly have a Tardis or a crystal ball.

Okay... so... what? Because while Miranda and Samara were dressed in skimpy outfits, the other REPORTERS in the ME universe were dressed in LONG MODEST DRESSES.

Are you finished?

[android654]

Ihatebadgames wrote...

You also don't know what the reporter was able to grab before fleeing or getting the ***L out of Dodge.Lots of military going to be reporting in less than class As.Many without armor,weapons or clean underwear.

I'm sure Ashley could've given her some BDUs and a spare T-shirt until they dock and she can get her own things. Since we've got two shots of her, and one that appears to be in her room or work station wearing the same outfit I'm thinking she wears it for the duration of the game.

Modifié par android654, 01 février 2012 - 04:20 .

[HolyAvenger]

bobobo878 wrote...

Um, are there any actual screens of the reporter lady on the field, or are we all arguing over the outfit she wears on the Normandy?

Nope this is the Ash complaints 2.0

[100k]

MACharlie1 wrote...

... I still have no idea who this woman is.

This is completely off-topic and this post will probably go unnoticed but I just realized something Bioware FINALLY did - a problem which I've noticed since KOTOR:

They finally have models heads freakin' attached to the bodies. Before, there was a separate head and body so when rendered in game, it would just be a matter of attaching the two. Simple right? Unfortunately, this meant that the head model and body would receive different lights resulting in the seam between the base of the neck and the shoulders look really obvious. To combat this, designers typically put in a neck piece. Miranda's black choker, t-shirts with high collars, Thane and Samara's metal necklace thing...I can only recall Jacob not having one for his romance scene in ME2 and even then...it was pretty noticeable. During ALL of the nude scenes in ME1, the camera conveniently showed from the NECK up rather then the typical shoulders.Dragon Age always had collars and KOTOR also always had obscenely high collars.

So yeah. Very happy to see that. Though I just realized they did it with Ashley's uniform. But here it's more pronounced.

Wow. I'm such a nerd. >_<

I noticed it too. Hopefully they moved that "line" up to be beneath the base of the skull or something, where it isn't so pronounced. 

[Gibb_Shepard]

nitefyre410 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Me vs Bioware wrote...

i never said man was better then woman. i'm saying some men are douchebags. I'm actually encouraging my gf atm, to become a mechanic. i treat her with respect and would do anything for her.

Your post implied that you have a higher opinion of women than you do of men.  That DOES make you sexist.  Women can be douchebags, too.

That's great that your girlfriend is pursing a career in a non-traditional field, and I'm sure she's lucky to have you, but seriously, dude, there'd be more women in the army if you guys didn't feel the need to hold our hands (and if enough of us stopped expecting our hands to be held; it's a two-way street).

 


Hold your hand? nope... 


Not let some jack wagon  fly off and give you a  right hook  to jaw while I stand  there with my thumb  up my ass... oh hell naw . 

Now its great  that you can handle yourself in a fight but your not  fighting by yourself  or all at if  we're hangging out.... Sorry thats just how I was brought up and raised. 

I don't know about you, but i'd be just as compelled to help a guy getting jaw crunched as i would a chick.