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[spirosz]

Trying holding this woman's hand and see how manly you feel after;



By the way, woman can hold their own just as much as men can, or even better. That can be said in any situation with ANY sex. I hate that macho bull****, but that's just me.

[nitefyre410]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Hold your hand? nope...

Not let some jack wagon  fly off and give you a  right hook  to jaw while I stand  there with my thumb  up my ass... oh hell naw . 

Now its great  that you can handle yourself in a fight but your not  fighting by yourself  or all at if  we're hangging out.... Sorry thats just how I was brought up and raised.

Hey, no problem and I'd appreciate it.  Provided you aren't surprised at all when I run up and kick some dude in the nuts if ever he knocks a tooth from your jaw.

 

I wouldn't mind  at all -  I would  laugh my ass off actually. 

I have a tougher jaw than that -  my dad tag me good one time when  I was been a miserable little snot at like 14 no one has hit me harder sense and no teeth missing .  Though now I prefer to walk away and difuse the situation before it escalates  people are crazy these days and  the days of a good drunken fist fight  are gone.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 01 février 2012 - 04:22 .

[HiroVoid]

MACharlie1 wrote...

... I still have no idea who this woman is.

This is completely off-topic and this post will probably go unnoticed but I just realized something Bioware FINALLY did - a problem which I've noticed since KOTOR:

They finally have models heads freakin' attached to the bodies. Before, there was a separate head and body so when rendered in game, it would just be a matter of attaching the two. Simple right? Unfortunately, this meant that the head model and body would receive different lights resulting in the seam between the base of the neck and the shoulders look really obvious. To combat this, designers typically put in a neck piece. Miranda's black choker, t-shirts with high collars, Thane and Samara's metal necklace thing...I can only recall Jacob not having one for his romance scene in ME2 and even then...it was pretty noticeable. During ALL of the nude scenes in ME1, the camera conveniently showed from the NECK up rather then the typical shoulders.Dragon Age always had collars and KOTOR also always had obscenely high collars.

So yeah. Very happy to see that. Though I just realized they did it with Ashley's uniform. But here it's more pronounced.

Wow. I'm such a nerd. >_<

Nope.  This was pretty informative.  Thanks.

[slimgrin]

spiros9110 wrote...

By the way, woman can hold their own just as much as men can, or even better. That can be said in any situation with ANY sex. I hate that macho bull****, but that's just me.

Uhm...ok...

[Icinix]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Icinix wrote...

I could watch the good Admiral write forum posts all day.

I know, right? Cheez is the BSN Wizard Never fails to entertain or amaze me.


On the topic of the new character... There's just something about her that puts me off a bit, but I'm hoping they treat her as a respectable character and not another Kelly.

This is important because so far - with characters in ME3 there hasn't been a lot of respect for the reasoning.

EDI and Ashley, the only reasons that were given for the new design / re-design were they needed more sexy.

So I think its totally fair for people to be looking at Chobot with raised eyebrows. There hasn't been a lot of respect for female characters shown so far in ME3. It has been purely for visual reasons.

Before anyone replies with "ZOMG - I IZ GONNA CANCEL ORDER TO OVERSEXUALED" - read the post and what I've said previously. Thats not whats being said - if you think that - you're comprehension and understanding have a few years to mature - come back later.

I like the role of the character and I have no issue with the characters looks or what the character is weraing on the Normandy - BUT - I would like to see evidence that goes AGAINST what we've seen so far for female characters.

[ObserverStatus]

HolyAvenger wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
Um, are there any actual screens of the reporter lady on the field, or are we all arguing over the outfit she wears on the Normandy?

Nope this is the Ash complaints 2.0

That's what I thought. >_<

[Vapaa]

[HiroVoid]

Icinix wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Icinix wrote...

I could watch the good Admiral write forum posts all day.

I know, right? Cheez is the BSN Wizard Never fails to entertain or amaze me.


On the topic of the new character... There's just something about her that puts me off a bit, but I'm hoping they treat her as a respectable character and not another Kelly.

This is important because so far - with characters in ME3 there hasn't been a lot of respect for the reasoning.

EDI and Ashley, the only reasons that were given for the new design / re-design were they needed more sexy.

So I think its totally fair for people to be looking at Chobot with raised eyebrows. There hasn't been a lot of respect for female characters shown so far in ME3. It has been purely for visual reasons.

Before anyone replies with "ZOMG - I IZ GONNA CANCEL ORDER TO OVERSEXUALED" - read the post and what I've said previously. Thats not whats being said - if you think that - you're comprehension and understanding have a few years to mature - come back later.

I like the role of the character and I have no issue with the characters looks or what the character is weraing on the Normandy - BUT - I would like to see evidence that goes AGAINST what we've seen so far for female characters.

If it helps, Tali won't be shown wearing an outfit showing off her cleavage.

It is pretty funny with all of the fanservice in ME2 though when there really wasn't any in the ME1.  There's the sex scenes, but the scenes are still the best we've gotten in Bioware games, and done very maturely.  Well, except Benezia, but that almost seemed like a joke to me anyway.

Modifié par HiroVoid, 01 février 2012 - 04:27 .

[PMC65]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Trust me, I know that there was more to the Ash debate ... I had to read it everyday in the Ash thread and honestly it got to where I just couldn't care one way or the other.

But you GET why people were upset, right?  How Bioware can REALLY mess up when it comes to the portrayal of their female characters?  This may be a similar problem, and it unfortunately cheapens the game.

If this person is put in the game so that the geek boys have someone to oogle, so be it. If she is horrendous then I will be right on the bandwagon asking CHud WTF? Really? But until then, I will give that character a chance.

Same here.  I'm just getting my fanwangst out of my system ahead of time.  This is pretty high up on my "lolwut" scale.  Hopefully Chobot will rock as Allers.  Knock 'em dead, Jessie.

But if she doesn't, then the players, the developers, and Chobot will all suffer from it.  Chobot because her reputation would be ruined just when she was starting to get somewhere, Bioware because they would have made a dumb decision in order to drag in just a few more sales, and the players because we were sold for suckers.

So for the sake of all parties involved, Jessie, you'd better seriously knock 'em dead.

I understood the concern, what I couldn't listen to was the individuals that over exaggerated how she looks to try and make their points. That drove me nuts and I stopped going to the Ashley thread after awhile until the armor reveal.

I know that you love Mass Effect like I do and that there is a concern that Bioware might sell their souls and the heart of the game for $$$ ... But based on the tweets, the years that the team has put in this trilogy I would really find it hard to believe that Casey and his team would sell it short. Naive of me? Maybe.

The voice actors have also talked about scenes that tore at them, made them tear up and even was steamy. So I am keeping the faith that we are in for a sweet ride and that even this character will be good. Not to say that she won't have haters, they all do ... but let's give her a chance.


Now, if she is going to follow my Shepard out on the field, she is going to need more than what she is wearing.

[android654]

Icinix wrote...


This is important because so far - with characters in ME3 there hasn't been a lot of respect for the reasoning.

EDI and Ashley, the only reasons that were given for the new design / re-design were they needed more sexy.

So I think its totally fair for people to be looking at Chobot with raised eyebrows. There hasn't been a lot of respect for female characters shown so far in ME3. It has been purely for visual reasons.

Before anyone replies with "ZOMG - I IZ GONNA CANCEL ORDER TO OVERSEXUALED" - read the post and what I've said previously. Thats not whats being said - if you think that - you're comprehension and understanding have a few years to mature - come back later.

I like the role of the character and I have no issue with the characters looks or what the character is weraing on the Normandy - BUT - I would like to see evidence that goes AGAINST what we've seen so far for female characters.

I like the concept of the character a lot, perhaps more than many people who are excited to see her in game. That being said character design is an important thing that should reflect the character. If that's the case here, then it doesn't bode well for what her portion of the story will pan out to be.

[Me vs Bioware]

@AdmiralCheez, i respect your opinion and you seem to be a kind person who watches out for others.

if i see a guy taking advantage of a girl, abusing her sexually or just talking about her badly. I'm going to lay the motherf*cker out. i see much more in a girl, then just the size of her boobs. I want girls to know, there are truly are respectable men out in the world.

just because i dont like to see women in the military, doesnt mean i treat any of them differently because I believe they shouldnt be there.

i'm sorry if i offended you

[Icinix]

HiroVoid wrote...

If it helps, Tali won't be shown wearing an outfit showing off her cleavage.

...lol...

...or will she.... 

[100k]

android654 wrote...

100k wrote...

Let me spell it out for you:

1) You. Haven't. Played. The. Game.

I'm debating the character design, I don't need to play the game to talk about the concept art.

2) She doesn't go into the field.

We don't know that.

3) You don't know Alliance-Network dress code protocol

The network doesn't matter since any reporter working with the military as an embedded journalist has to repstect their respective government and military liasons who allow them to work there, not the network.

4) You aren't the authority on what is appropriate "reporter garb" in the 22nd century.

But we know military appropriate attire in this setting and she doesn't fit that in her spanx.

5) You can't see the entire outfit.

You can clearly see its a "sporty dress." Your point?

6) You don't know what "fashion" in the 22nd century is.

What's fashion doesn't matter when you're an embed with the military. They let you know what is and isn't ok to wear when you're under their jurisdiction.

Come at me bro

You sound like a douche.

Its funny, before ME2 came out people HATED Jack because of how she looked. 

They did what you are doing now: judging what a character should/shouldn't be able to do based upon the nakedness of a female lead.

I doubt that Chobot is a lead.

I don't doubt that Jack is in your avatar.

[Ramus Quaritch]

I personally like the idea of you being able to use her to tell your story to the galaxy and raise morale for the war effort. Your alignment could definitely tie into how you inspire people and the effect you have. I personally don't know if my hardened military-type Shepard would want to talk much with a reporter. I'm still roleplaying that in my head.

[AdmiralCheez]

100k wrote...

Okay. Well, at least I read the leak, especially the dialogue involving her clothing.

Then by all means, use it to support your case.  Just do the handy text-hidey thing.

Actually you can't make assumptions. The future in which ME revolves around is COMPLETELY different from modern day, both in political forces, technology, medicine, weapons, alliances, capablities, etc.

Nah, the politics are mostly the same.  And, you know, getting shot can still kill you.

Oh, and there aren't bullets "flying around". You're just babbling to hear yourself babble.

So in battle, we lob artichokes at each other?  I wonder what the mods are for an artichoke gun...

Okay, you go ahead and guess, and I'll TAKE your advice and look at a *seemingly similar outfit within the ME universe: femshep's dress. It was a modest one piece leather dress (non-skin tight) that went to about two to three inches above her knees: the kind of dress I'd expect a politician to wear at a convention.

Hey, and I've got no problem if she wears a sporty dress like that in her spare time.  But you don't plunge deep into enemy territory without wearing some sort of protection.

Oddly, that works on multiple levels.

But I'm gonna guess that you'll make up some comment about how it was ****ty and made femshep look like a **** pandering for a buck, so we'll just have to leave this alone.

Nah, FemShep's dress looked nice on her and was appropriate for the occasion.  It was kind of fun whipping out a pistol at a cocktail party.

Look, I'm not against sexy ladies looking sexy.  But there's classy sexy and cheap sexy, and a HUGE difference between chillin' out in a tank dress and running through a rachni nest in one.

Okay... so... what? Because while Miranda and Samara were dressed in skimpy outfits, the other REPORTERS in the ME universe were dressed in LONG MODEST DRESSES.

Khalisa was, but Emily's dress had some huge-ass skinholes cut in it.  And don't ever think Mass Effect's above cheap sex appeal, for I can totally spam images of Jacob/Miranda's ass.

On a side note, I don't know what it is with all the brightly-colored suits and dresses on the Citadel.  Must be a side-effect of the dominant asari culture.  Or the concept artists were in a neon sort of mood.

Are you finished?

Yeah, about to go to bed.  Might give it another post or two, though.

[nitefyre410]

Icinix wrote...

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Icinix wrote...

I could watch the good Admiral write forum posts all day.

I know, right? Cheez is the BSN Wizard Never fails to entertain or amaze me.


On the topic of the new character... There's just something about her that puts me off a bit, but I'm hoping they treat her as a respectable character and not another Kelly.

This is important because so far - with characters in ME3 there hasn't been a lot of respect for the reasoning.

EDI and Ashley, the only reasons that were given for the new design / re-design were they needed more sexy.

So I think its totally fair for people to be looking at Chobot with raised eyebrows. There hasn't been a lot of respect for female characters shown so far in ME3. It has been purely for visual reasons.

Before anyone replies with "ZOMG - I IZ GONNA CANCEL ORDER TO OVERSEXUALED" - read the post and what I've said previously. Thats not whats being said - if you think that - you're comprehension and understanding have a few years to mature - come back later.

I like the role of the character and I have no issue with the characters looks or what the character is weraing on the Normandy - BUT - I would like to see evidence that goes AGAINST what we've seen so far for female characters.

 


A far point and valid point and once again Bioware PR is not very good... some one should have prepped her for this interview  as far  as speaking about the her role as the character. 


and 


ZOMG   SEXUALIZED.... 
PRE-ORDER CANCELLED.   

[G3rman]

Making a playthrough just to romance her for the lulz, why not?

[ciaweth]

The only useful thing about this character is that apparently you can kick it off the ship. Someone in marketing is surely celebrating what is in effect a huge IGN ad buy.

[Me vs Bioware]

so, she is going to lead n Shepard, for her story?

[spirosz]

ciaweth wrote...

The only useful thing about this character is that apparently you can kick it off the ship. Someone in marketing is surely celebrating what is in effect a huge IGN ad buy.

It's confirmed that you're able to not have her on the ship?

[Me vs Bioware]

spiros9110 wrote...

ciaweth wrote...

The only useful thing about this character is that apparently you can kick it off the ship. Someone in marketing is surely celebrating what is in effect a huge IGN ad buy.

It's confirmed that you're able to not have her on the ship?

i think some people were twittering with Chobot and found out

[nitefyre410]

ciaweth wrote...

The only useful thing about this character is that apparently you can kick it off the ship. Someone in marketing is surely celebrating what is in effect a huge IGN ad buy.

 


Victory Fanfare at the offices of Bioware, EA and IGN. 

[Icinix]

android654 wrote...

Icinix wrote...
*wrote a bunch of stuff about things*

I like the concept of the character a lot, perhaps more than many people who are excited to see her in game. That being said character design is an important thing that should reflect the character. If that's the case here, then it doesn't bode well for what her portion of the story will pan out to be.

Definitely. They didn't open very well with how they want to convey the characters - have we actually see any in game dialogue or anything beyond the BANG - look internet semi-celebrity in a tight dress and specially desgined neck head torso texturing.

If you want people to come out and say;

"Hey, that character is going to be a deep thought provoking character." You need more than that.

[Icinix]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Icinix wrote...
*stuff*

 


A far point and valid point and once again Bioware PR is not very good... some one should have prepped her for this interview  as far  as speaking about the her role as the character. 


and 


ZOMG   SEXUALIZED.... 
PRE-ORDER CANCELLED.   

Yeah - I hope they do an interview video like they did with Freddie.

and..

ZOMG I NOES! BSN IS FRACKED UP 4 LIKE EVA!