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[Wonderllama4]

all the same things were said about Miranda too before ME2. a bunch of pretentious fashion critics here...

and of course Miranda has the most popular thread here. I bet $5 Diana becomes just as popular!

Modifié par Wonderllama4, 02 février 2012 - 09:15 .

[android654]

Yakko77 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Updated photo of the character with much needed lighting. I guess we can rule out a jumpsuit, for those of you trying to argue that it could be that.

At $70.00 a pop for the CE people on the Normandy better look mucho better then what I see when I look in the mirror or shopping at Wal-Mart/Target. She can stay on the Normandy unless Ashley or Liara start to say otherwise in regards to their respective Shepards ... If they yell too much then those Shepards might have to ask her to leave.

My single female Shepard if Ash isn't an option might be going to her for *ahem* comfort! 

I wonder if she flirts with Vega if they both are non-romanced? Hmmmm.
  

It's a tight outfit with moderate cleavage at best.  There is so much worse in so many games.  Why so many are having a fit about it is beyond me....

Give the freakin' voice actress and the game writers afreakin' chance....

Sheesh!!!!

<_<

Its not because it's "sexy" its because she's supposed to be a journalist and her design clashes with that idea. Miranda has a reason for the catsuit, she loves to flaunt her perfection in everyone's face, and that means her perfection in all areas. The dress is out of place for a war correspondent and it makes the character suspect.

Sexy? Nothing about the characrter or the clothing says "sexy!" What it does say it out of place which seems to be the case.

[CrutchCricket]

Golden Owl wrote...

Question:

How does everyone here feel about Diane's inclusion?...I'm concerned, it was obvious after the inclusion of Vega that there was a new female LI niche to fill, I was hoping and praying that place would go to Kasumi.....I am remaining nuetral about Diana at this point, disappointed (due to wanting Kasumi to get that niche) but admittedly curious about this new character....She is no Kasumi, but if she is a lighter, funnier, more upbeat character than the current LI offerings and more Kasumi like, I will remain dissappointed that it's not Kasumi, but would at least give my Shep a chance not to end ME3 alone....What do others think?

Given that I'm not worried about a Kasumi romance I share your curiosity but not your disappointment (well not about the romance anyway. I'm quite distressed she's not on my squad)

I was actually thinking that Allers might have a similar snarky sense of humor but be a bit more deadpan than Kasumi. Possibly more sarcastic as well. I also imagine her introduction as a bit of a cliche  "underestimating the reporter bit"

Diana: Commander Shepard? Diana Allers, Alliance News. I was wondering if I could ask you some questions before ...
Shepard: I don't have time for reporters. We're leaving now.
Diana: Well then I guess it's good I'm already packed.
Shepard: Excuse me?
Diana: I'm assigned to the Normandy Commander. We can continue this after take off if you prefer.
Shepard: You'd think they'd tell me these things...

Probably way off from how it actually happens,but hey. Just thought of it.

[Greymelkin]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Question:

How does everyone here feel about Diane's inclusion?...I'm concerned, it was obvious after the inclusion of Vega that there was a new female LI niche to fill, I was hoping and praying that place would go to Kasumi.....I am remaining nuetral about Diana at this point, disappointed (due to wanting Kasumi to get that niche) but admittedly curious about this new character....She is no Kasumi, but if she is a lighter, funnier, more upbeat character than the current LI offerings and more Kasumi like, I will remain dissappointed that it's not Kasumi, but would at least give my Shep a chance not to end ME3 alone....What do others think?

Given that I'm not worried about a Kasumi romance I share your curiosity but not your disappointment (well not about the romance anyway. I'm quite distressed she's not on my squad)

I was actually thinking that Allers might have a similar snarky sense of humor but be a bit more deadpan than Kasumi. Possibly more sarcastic as well. I also imagine her introduction as a bit of a cliche  "underestimating the reporter bit"

Diana: Commander Shepard? Diana Allers, Alliance News. I was wondering if I could ask you some questions before ...
Shepard: I don't have time for reporters. We're leaving now.
Diana: Well then I guess it's good I'm already packed.
Shepard: Excuse me?
Diana: I'm assigned to the Normandy Commander. We can continue this after take off if you prefer.
Shepard: You'd think they'd tell me these things...

Probably way off from how it actually happens,but hey. Just thought of it.

It might be way off, but I could see it happening. Of course if we do pick her up on earth I'm not sure there would be much banter at that time.  I'm guessing the Normanday just picked up who they could and she gets thrown into the mix and happens to stay for a story. Lois Lane style.

[FERMi27]

Man I'll definitely screw her.

[CrutchCricket]

Greymelkin wrote...
It might be way off, but I could see it happening. Of course if we do pick her up on earth I'm not sure there would be much banter at that time.  I'm guessing the Normanday just picked up who they could and she gets thrown into the mix and happens to stay for a story. Lois Lane style.

I don't think we pick her up on Earth. You start off there just as the Reapers attack and you have to escape right? So I figure once you're off Earth you randevous at another base with the Fleet or whatever and you pick her up there. Might also be where you get Liara. I don't think she's on Earth at the start of ME3 either. Still she might be on Earth, trying to escape like everyone else. That might even explain the weird dress thing.

Ok I fully find the dress puzzling now. My issue isn't why is she wearing it, but rather what is the purpose of such a dress? The top part looks like a workout tank top but the bottom part looks like a normal leather dress/skirt. So where would anyone wear this dress?

[PMC65]

android654 wrote...

Its not because it's "sexy" its because she's supposed to be a journalist and her design clashes with that idea. Miranda has a reason for the catsuit, she loves to flaunt her perfection in everyone's face, and that means her perfection in all areas. The dress is out of place for a war correspondent and it makes the character suspect.

Sexy? Nothing about the characrter or the clothing says "sexy!" What it does say it out of place which seems to be the case.

Our modern day on-screen reporters die themselves orange (fake tan) and wear questionable outfits. Unfortunately the days of Walter Cronkite is over.

Examples:

[android654]

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Its not because it's "sexy" its because she's supposed to be a journalist and her design clashes with that idea. Miranda has a reason for the catsuit, she loves to flaunt her perfection in everyone's face, and that means her perfection in all areas. The dress is out of place for a war correspondent and it makes the character suspect.

Sexy? Nothing about the characrter or the clothing says "sexy!" What it does say it out of place which seems to be the case.

Our modern day on-screen reporters die themselves orange (fake tan) and wear questionable outfits. Unfortunately the days of Walter Cronkite is over.

Examples:

Have a little perspective. First what that meteorologist is wearing isn't comparable to that Allers is wearing, she's dressed business casual which is standard for studio news. Second she's a war correspondent not a meterologist or a sports caster.

This is a war correspondent out of a conflict zone


and in a war zone


This game did make an effort to give characters that were scripted rather heavily to have a design that reflected the character. This is the first time I'm seeing, in the ME series to have a character that has a design that makes no fu**ing sense for the character. It's just done in real poor taste.

Modifié par android654, 02 février 2012 - 07:02 .

[PMC65]

android654 wrote...

Have a little perspective. First what that meteorologist is wearing isn't comparable to that Allers is wearing, she's dressed business casual which is standard for studio news. Second she's a war correspondent not a meterologist or a sports caster.

This is a war correspondent out of a conflict zone


and in a war zone


This game did make an effort to give characters that were scripted rather heavily to have a design that reflected the character. This is the first time I'm seeing, in the ME series to have a character that has a design that makes no fu**ing sense for the character. It's just done in real poor taste.

So you know for a fact that this character will be on the battlefield?

My Shepard will be wearing a hoodie on the N7 if possible so her outfit is ok on the Normandy.

On the battlefield Shepard will not be in that hoodie but armor.

If she is on a battlefield in that outfit then we can talk about the photos above.

[android654]

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Have a little perspective. First what that meteorologist is wearing isn't comparable to that Allers is wearing, she's dressed business casual which is standard for studio news. Second she's a war correspondent not a meterologist or a sports caster.

This is a war correspondent out of a conflict zone


and in a war zone


This game did make an effort to give characters that were scripted rather heavily to have a design that reflected the character. This is the first time I'm seeing, in the ME series to have a character that has a design that makes no fu**ing sense for the character. It's just done in real poor taste.

So you know for a fact that this character will be on the battlefield?

My Shepard will be wearing a hoodie on the N7 if possible so her outfit is ok on the Normandy.

On the battlefield Shepard will not be in that hoodie but armor.

If she is on a battlefield in that outfit then we can talk about the photos above.

You're clearly not a woman, because no woman in her right mind would choose to wear a leather dress every single day while on assignment to a military ship. That would be like wearing a suit on a daily basis while embedded with a unit inAfghanistan. That's what makes no sense, no one f**king dresses like that for comfort, and if you plan to be  on a ship for months you dress for comfort.

[PMC65]

android654 wrote...

You're clearly not a woman, because no woman in her right mind would choose to wear a leather dress every single day while on assignment to a military ship. That would be like wearing a suit on a daily basis while embedded with a unit inAfghanistan. That's what makes no sense, no one f**king dresses like that for comfort, and if you plan to be  on a ship for months you dress for comfort.

I see that this is getting more personal ... Wow.

First, yes I am female.

Yes, I know women that feel more comfortable in tight clothes and high heels then sweat pants and sneakers. One sister-in-law and two cousins quickly come to mind. Do I get it? No.

I served two years in the California Conservation Corp and every morning during basics we had women who would wake up early ... and I mean early! to apply make-up and do their hair before PT. The rest of us gals thought they were whacked! Getting up at 4:00 AM to primp before running in the Santa Barbara mountains, push-ups, etc.

We women come in all shapes, sizes and mind-sets.

[nitefyre410]

android654 wrote...

*snip* 
You're clearly not a woman, because no woman in her right mind would choose to wear a leather dress every single day while on assignment to a military ship. That would be like wearing a suit on a daily basis while embedded with a unit inAfghanistan. That's what makes no sense, no one f**king dresses like that for comfort, and if you plan to be  on a ship for months you dress for comfort.

 

now don't bite my head off... because this just  question or  more of a  possibility... 

Maybe they just picked her up from a space port, or the Citidal, might be her first field job and she had not had chance to change because we really have very little context for the screen shot.

[Greymelkin]

I agree that the outfit seems out of place... but we are assuming that she planned to be there. If my guess is right, (and it is only a guess) she was rescued, didn't plan to be there and happens to be a reporter doing a puff piece and was caught up in all of the chaos. Either way we'll have to see. BTW if I could wear the N7 hoodie in combat I so would just to be that more bad ass.

[PMC65]

nitefyre410 wrote...

android654 wrote...

*snip* 
You're clearly not a woman, because no woman in her right mind would choose to wear a leather dress every single day while on assignment to a military ship. That would be like wearing a suit on a daily basis while embedded with a unit inAfghanistan. That's what makes no sense, no one f**king dresses like that for comfort, and if you plan to be  on a ship for months you dress for comfort.

 

now don't bite my head off... because this just  question or  more of a  possibility... 

Maybe they just picked her up from a space port, or the Citidal, might be her first field job and she had not had chance to change because we really have very little context for the screen shot.

You are obviously not human!

Sorry, just trying to lighten the mood!

[nitefyre410]

PMC65 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

android654 wrote...

*snip* 
You're clearly not a woman, because no woman in her right mind would choose to wear a leather dress every single day while on assignment to a military ship. That would be like wearing a suit on a daily basis while embedded with a unit inAfghanistan. That's what makes no sense, no one f**king dresses like that for comfort, and if you plan to be  on a ship for months you dress for comfort.

 

now don't bite my head off... because this just  question or  more of a  possibility... 

Maybe they just picked her up from a space port, or the Citidal, might be her first field job and she had not had chance to change because we really have very little context for the screen shot.

You are obviously not human!

Sorry, just trying to lighten the mood!

 

Yes , yes I know we can't let rational get in  the way of a good agruement :innocent:
 
Edit:  TBH ... somedays I look at the human race and  I  ask myself that very question.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 02 février 2012 - 07:38 .

[android654]

nitefyre410 wrote...

android654 wrote...

*snip*&nbsp;
You're clearly not a woman, because no woman in her right mind would choose to wear a leather dress every single day while on assignment to a military ship. That would be like wearing a suit on a daily basis while embedded with a unit inAfghanistan. That's what makes no sense, no one f**king dresses like that for comfort, and if you plan to be&nbsp; on a ship for months you dress for comfort.

&nbsp;

now don't bite my head off... because this just &nbsp;question or &nbsp;more of a &nbsp;possibility...&nbsp;

Maybe they just picked her up from a space port, or the Citidal, might be her first field job and she had not had chance to change because we really have very little context for the screen shot.

That would make her the first character in the series to do that. Also if that is the case, it still doesn't fit the role of the character. Also if this is her first job as a journalist and she gets to be an embed with a military unit during a galactic war, then there's no effort in the writing to inject any realism into the situation.

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

You're clearly not a woman, because no woman in her right mind would choose to wear a leather dress every single day while on assignment to a military ship. That would be like wearing a suit on a daily basis while embedded with a unit inAfghanistan. That's what makes no sense, no one f**king dresses like that for comfort, and if you plan to be  on a ship for months you dress for comfort.

I see that this is getting more personal ... Wow.

First, yes I am female.

Yes, I know women that feel more comfortable in tight clothes and high heels then sweat pants and sneakers. One sister-in-law and two cousins quickly come to mind. Do I get it? No.

I served two years in the California Conservation Corp and every morning during basics we had women who would wake up early ... and I mean early! to apply make-up and do their hair before PT. The rest of us gals thought they were whacked! Getting up at 4:00 AM to primp before running in the Santa Barbara mountains, push-ups, etc.

We women come in all shapes, sizes and mind-sets.

Personal? No.

In a work of fictionyou try to dress up a character based on their personality and, if they have one, their role in the story. So writers and production designers fall back on archetypes and stereotypes to fill in the gaps. While people may be diverse and ecclectic when you examine them individually you can't use that rule of thumb with a background character like this one. You have to use stereotypes and archetypes to make the point clear of what they're doing. She doesn't look like any war correspondent or military embed ever, she looks like she's going out somewhere and in the other screen shot she's still wearing it while working on stories. It's a bad design on the character, and if the design is supposed to be representative of her personality then I think it will clash considerably with what would make a good journalist.

[PMC65]

android654 wrote...

Personal? No.

In a work of fictionyou try to dress up a character based on their personality and, if they have one, their role in the story. So writers and production designers fall back on archetypes and stereotypes to fill in the gaps. While people may be diverse and ecclectic when you examine them individually you can't use that rule of thumb with a background character like this one. You have to use stereotypes and archetypes to make the point clear of what they're doing. She doesn't look like any war correspondent or military embed ever, she looks like she's going out somewhere and in the other screen shot she's still wearing it while working on stories. It's a bad design on the character, and if the design is supposed to be representative of her personality then I think it will clash considerably with what would make a good journalist.

I'll wait until I see her in-game and then make a judgement on her character, fashion, purpose.

[Errationatus]

jreezy wrote...

JakeMacDon wrote...
Not all of us are friggin' Talislobberers.  <_<
 

:huh:What does that mean?

It meant that there are those of us who romanced someone else.  Those romances are, for all intents and purposes, being gutted and marginalized - except, of course, for everyone's favourite sweatpop.  

I cannot shake the dread feeling - thanks to the unnecessary inclusion of this reporter and new comms officer and Vega -  that I'm seeing what I saw when I was from eleven to seventeen:  Star Wars - awesome!  Empire Strikes Back - Fvck yeah!  Return of the Jedi - gawddamned Ewoks!  Whatever miniscule credibility Lucas had died with Ewoks.  That was why he had no qualms making those sh!tty prequels.  The fans made Tali an Ewok.  And now the Normandy is filling up with Ewoks.

The game very well may be absolutely incredible.  But the more I see, the less I think that's going to be the case.

I hope I'm wrong.

[BatmanPWNS]

android654 wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Updated photo of the character with much needed lighting. I guess we can rule out a jumpsuit, for those of you trying to argue that it could be that.

At $70.00 a pop for the CE people on the Normandy better look mucho better then what I see when I look in the mirror or shopping at Wal-Mart/Target. She can stay on the Normandy unless Ashley or Liara start to say otherwise in regards to their respective Shepards ... If they yell too much then those Shepards might have to ask her to leave.

My single female Shepard if Ash isn't an option might be going to her for *ahem* comfort! 

I wonder if she flirts with Vega if they both are non-romanced? Hmmmm.
  

It's a tight outfit with moderate cleavage at best.  There is so much worse in so many games.  Why so many are having a fit about it is beyond me....

Give the freakin' voice actress and the game writers afreakin' chance....

Sheesh!!!!

<_<

Its not because it's "sexy" its because she's supposed to be a journalist and her design clashes with that idea. Miranda has a reason for the catsuit, she loves to flaunt her perfection in everyone's face, and that means her perfection in all areas. The dress is out of place for a war correspondent and it makes the character suspect.

Sexy? Nothing about the characrter or the clothing says "sexy!" What it does say it out of place which seems to be the case.

Miranda has a reason? HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH. Good one.

[Golden Owl]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

android654 wrote...



Its not because it's "sexy" its because she's supposed to be a journalist and her design clashes with that idea. Miranda has a reason for the catsuit, she loves to flaunt her perfection in everyone's face, and that means her perfection in all areas. The dress is out of place for a war correspondent and it makes the character suspect.

Sexy? Nothing about the characrter or the clothing says "sexy!" What it does say it out of place which seems to be the case.

Miranda has a reason? HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH. Good one.

I agree with Batman.

As for the outfit...its just BW being BW, they like their ladies in paint by numbers outfits, only Princess Liara escapes the catsuits.

[PMC65]

Golden Owl wrote...

As for the outfit...its just BW being BW, they like their ladies in paint by numbers outfits, only Princess Liara escapes the catsuits.

At least for the most part ...  ...oh Liara! Never mind!

Modifié par PMC65, 03 février 2012 - 12:12 .

[Golden Owl]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Question:

How does everyone here feel about Diane's inclusion?...I'm concerned, it was obvious after the inclusion of Vega that there was a new female LI niche to fill, I was hoping and praying that place would go to Kasumi.....I am remaining nuetral about Diana at this point, disappointed (due to wanting Kasumi to get that niche) but admittedly curious about this new character....She is no Kasumi, but if she is a lighter, funnier, more upbeat character than the current LI offerings and more Kasumi like, I will remain dissappointed that it's not Kasumi, but would at least give my Shep a chance not to end ME3 alone....What do others think?

Given that I'm not worried about a Kasumi romance I share your curiosity but not your disappointment (well not about the romance anyway. I'm quite distressed she's not on my squad)

I was actually thinking that Allers might have a similar snarky sense of humor but be a bit more deadpan than Kasumi. Possibly more sarcastic as well. I also imagine her introduction as a bit of a cliche  "underestimating the reporter bit"

Diana: Commander Shepard? Diana Allers, Alliance News. I was wondering if I could ask you some questions before ...
Shepard: I don't have time for reporters. We're leaving now.
Diana: Well then I guess it's good I'm already packed.
Shepard: Excuse me?
Diana: I'm assigned to the Normandy Commander. We can continue this after take off if you prefer.
Shepard: You'd think they'd tell me these things...

Probably way off from how it actually happens,but hey. Just thought of it.

Miranda and Ash are 'snarky'...I pray for no more 'snarky' ladies....as for the dialog...I like that idea.......I like Shep thrown onto his back foot, only Kasumi and Gianna have managed that so far thus one of the reasons I am so fond of them...if Diana does this also, she would gain a lot of kudo's in my books.

[Peanut Butter Jelly Time]

android654 wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Have a little perspective. First what that meteorologist is wearing isn't comparable to that Allers is wearing, she's dressed business casual which is standard for studio news. Second she's a war correspondent not a meterologist or a sports caster.

This is a war correspondent out of a conflict zone


and in a war zone


This game did make an effort to give characters that were scripted rather heavily to have a design that reflected the character. This is the first time I'm seeing, in the ME series to have a character that has a design that makes no fu**ing sense for the character. It's just done in real poor taste.

So you know for a fact that this character will be on the battlefield?

My Shepard will be wearing a hoodie on the N7 if possible so her outfit is ok on the Normandy.

On the battlefield Shepard will not be in that hoodie but armor.

If she is on a battlefield in that outfit then we can talk about the photos above.

You're clearly not a woman, because no woman in her right mind would choose to wear a leather dress every single day while on assignment to a military ship. That would be like wearing a suit on a daily basis while embedded with a unit inAfghanistan. That's what makes no sense, no one f**king dresses like that for comfort, and if you plan to be  on a ship for months you dress for comfort.

looks like that pic is the first time Allers met Shepard

[Golden Owl]

PMC65 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

As for the outfit...its just BW being BW, they like their ladies in paint by numbers outfits, only Princess Liara escapes the catsuits.

At least for the most part ...  ...oh Liara! Never mind!

LMAO......beautifully caught PMC....

[android654]

Golden Owl wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

android654 wrote...



Its not because it's "sexy" its because she's supposed to be a journalist and her design clashes with that idea. Miranda has a reason for the catsuit, she loves to flaunt her perfection in everyone's face, and that means her perfection in all areas. The dress is out of place for a war correspondent and it makes the character suspect.

Sexy? Nothing about the characrter or the clothing says "sexy!" What it does say it out of place which seems to be the case.

Miranda has a reason? HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH. Good one.

I agree with Batman.

As for the outfit...its just BW being BW, they like their ladies in paint by numbers outfits, only Princess Liara escapes the catsuits.

Unless you analyze characters, then its obvious why the women who likes to profess and flaunt her perfection would wear something that personifies that.