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[eoinnx02]

android654 wrote...

Updated photo of the character with much needed lighting. I guess we can rule out a jumpsuit, for those of you trying to argue that it could be that.

Who updated the photo?

[Golden Owl]

android654 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

android654 wrote...



Its not because it's "sexy" its because she's supposed to be a journalist and her design clashes with that idea. Miranda has a reason for the catsuit, she loves to flaunt her perfection in everyone's face, and that means her perfection in all areas. The dress is out of place for a war correspondent and it makes the character suspect.

Sexy? Nothing about the characrter or the clothing says "sexy!" What it does say it out of place which seems to be the case.

Miranda has a reason? HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH. Good one.

I agree with Batman.

As for the outfit...its just BW being BW, they like their ladies in paint by numbers outfits, only Princess Liara escapes the catsuits.

Unless you analyze characters, then its obvious why the women who likes to profess and flaunt her perfection would wear something that personifies that.

Analyzing people/characters is a favorite pastime...but the high heels in battle alone is enough to make it clear it's not about Miranda, but about silly costumes BW likes to dress their women in.

[nitefyre410]

I sense and great mighty wind blowing... there seems to be another battle between BSN'ers about Miranda's attire....

[android654]

Golden Owl wrote...

android654 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

android654 wrote...



Its not because it's "sexy" its because she's supposed to be a journalist and her design clashes with that idea. Miranda has a reason for the catsuit, she loves to flaunt her perfection in everyone's face, and that means her perfection in all areas. The dress is out of place for a war correspondent and it makes the character suspect.

Sexy? Nothing about the characrter or the clothing says "sexy!" What it does say it out of place which seems to be the case.

Miranda has a reason? HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH. Good one.

I agree with Batman.

As for the outfit...its just BW being BW, they like their ladies in paint by numbers outfits, only Princess Liara escapes the catsuits.

Unless you analyze characters, then its obvious why the women who likes to profess and flaunt her perfection would wear something that personifies that.

Analyzing people/characters is a favorite pastime...but the high heels in battle alone is enough to make it clear it's not about Miranda, but about silly costumes BW likes to dress their women in.

That may be part of it, sure but there's a reason why they didn't chose thier "perfect woman" to show as much skin as Jack. Ask most people on here and they'll tell you Jack's lack of clothing didn't appeal to them in the slightest. Do they like making female characters sexually appealing? Sure they do, but they at least tried to tie it back to the characters. If you look closely at everyone from ME2 (ME1 is excluded since everyone is in uniform) and you'll see what they're wearing makes sense to who the characters are.

[lietk12]

android654 wrote...

If you look closely at everyone from ME2 (ME1 is excluded since everyone is in uniform) and you'll see what they're wearing makes sense to who the characters are.

Can you please explain Samara? Her heels-in-combat makes sense, since she uses it in a cutscene to hold down the eclipse lieutenant for killing in Samara's recruitment mission, but I couldn't figure out how to justify her massive cleavage exposure

[AdmiralCheez]

lietk12 wrote...

Can you please explain Samara? Her heels-in-combat makes sense, since she uses it in a cutscene to hold down the eclipse lieutenant for killing in Samara's recruitment mission, but I couldn't figure out how to justify her massive cleavage exposure

Her funbags are the source of her power.  Just look at Matriarch Boobnezia Benezia.

Seriously, though, apart from the ridiculously low neckline, Samara looked great.

Also you are totes rocking that avatar.  Glad to see people using 'em!

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 03 février 2012 - 01:33 .

[Nayt Navare]

I would think Matriarchs and similar show their cleavage/ larger bust as perhaps a sign of age ro experience? Like grey hair or gold bracelets in some cultures.

As ridiculous as it may seem/is.

[android654]

lietk12 wrote...

android654 wrote...

If you look closely at everyone from ME2 (ME1 is excluded since everyone is in uniform) and you'll see what they're wearing makes sense to who the characters are.

Can you please explain Samara? Her heels-in-combat makes sense, since she uses it in a cutscene to hold down the eclipse lieutenant for killing in Samara's recruitment mission, but I couldn't figure out how to justify her massive cleavage exposure

Well sexuality is pretty much central to the Asair culture. All the Asari are pretty much designed around sexuality rather than the other way around. The only one that seem to be immune from this is Liara which makes sense to differentiate herself from all of the other Asari. Shiala as well since she had a sole desire to kill you and then seek redemption, but in ME2 her sexual hunger seeps out just a bit and flirts with Shepard on Illium.

[lietk12]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Also you are totes rocking that avatar.  Glad to see people using 'em!

Thanks for making the avatars—they're awesomazing!

android654 wrote...

Well sexuality is pretty much central to the Asair culture. All the Asari are pretty much designed around sexuality rather than the other way around.

Oh, good point; this would also explain why Tela Vasir's cleavage-hiding armor is blue/purple in certain places.
(It would also be apparent that Asari culture is uncannily like the Green-Skinned Space Babe trope, but that is a different matter entirely)

[android654]

lietk12 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Also you are totes rocking that avatar.  Glad to see people using 'em!

Thanks for making the avatars—they're awesomazing!

android654 wrote...

Well sexuality is pretty much central to the Asair culture. All the Asari are pretty much designed around sexuality rather than the other way around.

Oh, good point; this would also explain why Tela Vasir's cleavage-hiding armor is blue/purple in certain places.
(It would also be apparent that Asari culture is uncannily like the Green-Skinned Space Babe trope, but that is a different matter entirely)

Yeah, but the Asari are way more blatant about their desire to be sexual objects or to appear tantilizing to the eye of every species and gender in existence.

[Ieldra]

I see some people compare Diana's outfit to Miranda's unfavorably. That doesn't make any sense. Diana's outfit looks out-of-place - news reporters don't wear such outfits because that distracts from the news they present, and embedded journalists wouldn't wear such outfits because that attracts attention which they'd want to avoid. But at least she's not a combatant and not a secret operative with cause to hide her presence in almost any public place. Miranda's catsuit is way more ridiculous.

Anyway, whatever Diana's qualities may or may not be, I wish Bioware would make its female characters adhere to the principle of dressing for the occasion.

[DeepConjac]

android654 wrote...

lietk12 wrote...

android654 wrote...

If you look closely at everyone from ME2 (ME1 is excluded since everyone is in uniform) and you'll see what they're wearing makes sense to who the characters are.

Can you please explain Samara? Her heels-in-combat makes sense, since she uses it in a cutscene to hold down the eclipse lieutenant for killing in Samara's recruitment mission, but I couldn't figure out how to justify her massive cleavage exposure

Well sexuality is pretty much central to the Asair culture. All the Asari are pretty much designed around sexuality rather than the other way around. The only one that seem to be immune from this is Liara which makes sense to differentiate herself from all of the other Asari. Shiala as well since she had a sole desire to kill you and then seek redemption, but in ME2 her sexual hunger seeps out just a bit and flirts with Shepard on Illium.

Every Eclipse Asari and the Spectre Tela Vasir (lair of the shadow broker) uses full armor that makes sense in combat. I believe Samara's "massive cleavage exposure" exists for the same reason as Mirandas butt, it sells. 

[Vovea]

If there was ever a time to let a character in the ME games wear a revealing outfit it would be now. She's not a squad mate and won't be in direct combat.

For one Diana Allers' low cut dress, there were two other reporters wearing turtle necks. Emily Wong's turtle neck does have a clevage peep hole but it just goes to show that everything is sexy in the future (I swear thats a trope somewhere).

I'm not a fan of the one inch heels and catsuits on most of the female fighters in ME2 but I only have to look at Liara's awesome costume or Femshep's badass armor to know that it'll all balance out in the end. I also don't want to ban everything sexy. Sexy is a pretty cool guy.

If everyone praised the stuff they liked half as much as complaining about the stuff they hate, this would be a forum of bubbling love.

[BatmanPWNS]

DeepConjac wrote...

android654 wrote...

lietk12 wrote...

android654 wrote...

If you look closely at everyone from ME2 (ME1 is excluded since everyone is in uniform) and you'll see what they're wearing makes sense to who the characters are.

Can you please explain Samara? Her heels-in-combat makes sense, since she uses it in a cutscene to hold down the eclipse lieutenant for killing in Samara's recruitment mission, but I couldn't figure out how to justify her massive cleavage exposure

Well sexuality is pretty much central to the Asair culture. All the Asari are pretty much designed around sexuality rather than the other way around. The only one that seem to be immune from this is Liara which makes sense to differentiate herself from all of the other Asari. Shiala as well since she had a sole desire to kill you and then seek redemption, but in ME2 her sexual hunger seeps out just a bit and flirts with Shepard on Illium.

Every Eclipse Asari and the Spectre Tela Vasir (lair of the shadow broker) uses full armor that makes sense in combat. I believe Samara's "massive cleavage exposure" exists for the same reason as Mirandas butt, it sells. 

This pretty much sums it up about Bioware and most of the "important" women they like to make.

[CrutchCricket]

New bit of information. According to Jess she did about two full days of voiceover work. I have no idea what that translates to in amount of dialog. If anyone knows of another reference point we can compare to (for example how long Kelly's VA took in ME2) we can try to figure out the size of her role somewhat. It's decidedly minor but still.

[Mr. Tanner]

That might not be true. Depending on the skill of the voice actor, a great many lines can be recorded in the span of two days. Also, when she said she did two days, did she mean she put in two eight hours shifts, or does it mean she spent 48 hours in total in the booth?

[CrutchCricket]

I have a minor role and even after the end of a full day of voiceover, I was exhausted. I had about 2 full days.

Taken from her IGN blog entry on Jan 30th. I don't know what a full day means. But you're right that it's inconclusive. You could spend two days on two lines (if you're really not getting what the director wants) or dozens if you're acing them. Still it'd be more than we currently know. It would at least set a limit. How much dialog can one record in two days assuming only two or three takes per line?

[1136342t54_]

DeepConjac wrote...

Every Eclipse Asari and the Spectre Tela Vasir (lair of the shadow broker) uses full armor that makes sense in combat. I believe Samara's "massive cleavage exposure" exists for the same reason as Mirandas butt, it sells. 

Not the same. Eclipse is an organization that employs multiple species and would use armor that would in general be rather similar to each other. I also doubt most Asari Spectres are Justicars. Justicars are known for their beauty and deadliness in combat.  It seems something reserved for Justicars to display  the beautiful yet deadly warrior concept.

[Mr. Tanner]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I have a minor role and even after the end of a full day of voiceover, I was exhausted. I had about 2 full days.

Taken from her IGN blog entry on Jan 30th. I don't know what a full day means. But you're right that it's inconclusive. You could spend two days on two lines (if you're really not getting what the director wants) or dozens if you're acing them. Still it'd be more than we currently know. It would at least set a limit. How much dialog can one record in two days assuming only two or three takes per line?

It really depends.  At two or three takes a line with today's tech, if her lines are only three or four sentances long, she could record anywhere between 50 to two hundred.  This would depend on how much time she spent working with the voice over team to get right feel to the lines.  If her lines are far longer, as I suspect considering she is an LI, she might be able to recoord anywhere from 50 to one hundred.  I know it seems a little rounded off, but I really have no idea just how the more in depth aspect of voice over works.

[Yumi50]

 Don't get me wrong. I like Jess and Diana, and I totally support this thread.Still, I found this a bit funny.


BioWare Brainstorming: How Jessica Chobot Joined the Cast of Mass Effect 3

http://www.gameranx....-mass-effect-3/

Modifié par Yumi50, 06 février 2012 - 02:20 .

[Mr. Tanner]

^^ Oh my god, I know that's not what happened, but now I have that image playing out in my head and I can't stop laughing.  I can hear the sound of Yahtzee banging his head against the desk right now.  "Gamers like chest high walls"  Too good!

Modifié par Mr. Tanner, 06 février 2012 - 04:15 .

[CrutchCricket]

Pretty funny, though I would've expected it to end with "and then they wanked in self satisfaction"

I also can't wait till Yahtzee reviews this game. No way is he going to let this pass without comment. Even if Jess does a great job, he should have a rant on it:

"But looking at this character, I just can't help feeling that she didn't get this assignment on merit. Like there's a smart Australian bloke in the wings, possibly with a stylish fedora that has loads of experience but got passed over because he wouldn't be able to stoke Shepard's pen-er I mean ego. Probably for the best though, if he was on the Normandy he'd just critique Shepard on his driving and occasionally call him a tosser." (picture appropriate cartoons)

[kingsims]

2 days = 14-16 hours worth of Voice over lines (All jobs have breaks usually around 45 mintues - 1 hour from an 8 hour full time shift). I doubt she has 48 hours worth of voice over work.

[Elliot Slack]

does anyone think she is hot

[Greymelkin]

I'd say so