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[Travadonna]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Maybe it's not his call? He's back with the Alliance and has actual superiors again.

Hello? They only one who knows how to defeat the Reapers? Savior of the Citadel? Spectre? If Shepard says that the reporter hinders their mission, would anyone else dare object? Commander Shepard isn't exactly known for liking reporters.

I already used Gibbed's to revive Kaidan and kill off Ashley (hell, I like them both in terms of personality). I'll find a way to get rid of this "reporter" asap too.

She is a WAR repoerter. There to inspire sympathy. Sympathy towards earth I'm guessing, can you not see she is wearing Alliance colours? 

[AdmiralCheez]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Cheez/CptData: Last Action Hero anyone? Fully lampshaded there (along with every other Hollywood trope)

And here I thought I was the only one to remember watching that movie.  Thanks for the chuckle.

But seriously, what's up with this new trend of Bioware using internet celebrities in their games?

[CptData]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Cheez/CptData: Last Action Hero anyone? Fully lampshaded there (along with every other Hollywood trope)

And here I thought I was the only one to remember watching that movie.  Thanks for the chuckle.

But seriously, what's up with this new trend of Bioware using internet celebrities in their games?

Didn't watch the movie.

Maybe it's a tribute to the actors, Cheez?

[CrutchCricket]

I think it makes sense actually. They have all the celebrity that matters (to gamers anyway) but don't cost as much as a Hollywood name. I think Chobot is a good choice (provided she can pull the acting off).

[husky husk]

Why didn't they get Geoff Keighley to play that role instead. We already got two female news reporters.

[Ieldra]

CptData wrote...
Seriously: ME comes with a "perfect" universe, at least visually. So it makes sense most (all???) women come with more or less perfect looks. It's odd, sure, but it's also consistent with the rest of named facts: there are no ugly people, therefore, there are no ugly women, Cheez


Back to the serious part:
Yeah, the tendency is there. Males come in far more (stereo)types, women are usually beautiful and with some huge talents. That's nice to watch at, I won't complain, but also somewhat unrealistic ...

I have no problem at all with no ugly people. Nor with super-sexy outfits, as long as their presence is believable. But game designers appear to have no concept of "dressing for the occasion". 

[Eyerock]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

For those concerned with the abundance of T&A in Diana Aller's (and Ashley's, and Miranda's, and Samara's, and everyone else's) design:

I don't think it's so much the graphics manager needs to get laid as it is their assumption that we (the audience) need to get laid. The general belief is that folks who spend tons of money on videogames don't have a sex life beyond their folders of JPEGs of Yvonne Strahovski.

The ocean of stilettos and catsuits that floods comic books, video games, and all other nerdy market niches is an effort to lure the attention and endorsement of the loneliest and most pathetic of beasts, the geeky 15-to-30-year-old white guy.

Thus, the only way to change this trend is to prove that the "target audience" is neither as inherently immature nor sexually starved as the marketing goons would like to believe.

I'll start the revolution by deleting my pics of Hugh Jackman with his shirt off.

Plus, all things considered, her outfit isn't all that horrifically bad.

See, my mind agrees with you! It has agreed on most everything you've said about this issue, cause you're right.
The sexualisation of women (or people in general) is a serious issue in game design is a serious problem that damages the both image of today's common gamer, and our views on standards of beauty today.
Even though I am able to justify the appearance of both Miranda, Samara, DIana and *spoilerspoiler* for myself storywise, it is a simple, hard truth that a man designed them and put them in these outfits to please consumers.

However, whenever I see Jack's barely covered breasts, Samara's gigantic cleavage or Miranda's shapely buttocks I don't feel that there is anything wrong about it. I don't shake my fist at the blatant fan-service, hell, I don't mind at all.
The thing is, I like pixelated breasts. Not in the same way as a "sexually starved, pathetic beast" would. I just like it.
You could call it a "guilty pleasure", but I don't wanna feel guilt for it. I am just a fan being serviced!

[CptData]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I think it makes sense actually. They have all the celebrity that matters (to gamers anyway) but don't cost as much as a Hollywood name. I think Chobot is a good choice (provided she can pull the acting off).

Maybe. However, there are plenty of Hollywood guys who're fans of games as well. Heck with it, BW/EA could get Patrick Stewart if they want. Of course, time & money is limited.

Think ME is one of the series that kinda sets standards for future games in a similar genre. That also includes cut scenes. Just check ME1 cutscenes and those in ME2 / ME3 - the difference is huge. Just imagine a game with much more budget and in five years - you won't go into cinema anymore since that game -feels- like a goddamn movie

[spychi]

who the **** is jessica chobot and why the **** i care?

ugh because of all the stuff you people have done to worship her i am starting to hate her even more since the moment i saw her in the ME3 cast movie...

Modifié par spychi, 31 janvier 2012 - 09:29 .

[CrutchCricket]

iOnlySignIn wrote...
Have I judged her? Did I say anything regarding her personality, or even her looks? I have nothing against this character in itself, as I know very little about it.

What I am complaining about is the logic behind the writing - that a reporter is travelling along the Normandy. It insults Shepard's intelligence, and by extension my intelligence. I don't care even if the reporter is my favorite character. I'd just be as indignant if it's Wong (one of my favorite characters) or Al-Jilani (also one of my favorite characters).

Judging a situation before you've seen it or know all the details is just as rash and unwarranted as judging a character before you know them. I never said you're judging her. But you're clearly judging her placement without full knowledge of the facts. There have been a couple of people that have posted valid theories about why it could work. I suggest you check them out.

[Travadonna]

spychi wrote...

who the **** is jessica chobot and why the **** i care?

She rose to fame by licking a psp. Now she host's IGN's shows along with a string of other shows.

[KateKane]

So they're letting a reported on the most advanced ship in the Alliance, which is occupied by an extremely illegal and potentially dangerous AI, during wartime?

How does that make any sense?

[Travadonna]

KateKane wrote...

So they're letting a reported on the most advanced ship in the Alliance, which is occupied by an extremely illegal and potentially dangerous AI, during wartime?

How does that make any sense?

She is Alliance.

[KateKane]

Travadonna wrote...

KateKane wrote...

So they're letting a reported on the most advanced ship in the Alliance, which is occupied by an extremely illegal and potentially dangerous AI, during wartime?

How does that make any sense?

She is Alliance.

She's an Alliance reporter. One who is literally surrounded by top secret military secrets.

[Travadonna]

KateKane wrote...

Travadonna wrote...

KateKane wrote...

So they're letting a reported on the most advanced ship in the Alliance, which is occupied by an extremely illegal and potentially dangerous AI, during wartime?

How does that make any sense?

She is Alliance.

She's an Alliance reporter. One who is literally surrounded by top secret military secrets.

There to report terrible happenings of humanity, to win hearts and minds of other species i assume.

[Tazzmission]

KateKane wrote...

Travadonna wrote...

KateKane wrote...

So they're letting a reported on the most advanced ship in the Alliance, which is occupied by an extremely illegal and potentially dangerous AI, during wartime?

How does that make any sense?

She is Alliance.

She's an Alliance reporter. One who is literally surrounded by top secret military secrets.

what if shes undercover to monitor shepard as a reporter?

afterall i think him working with erberus would split the alliance 50/50 as to who still trusts him and who dosent.

[CrutchCricket]

IOnlySignIn: I still need to update the OP. I'll likely throw it in there.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 31 janvier 2012 - 09:36 .

[android654]

Holy S**t! did I walk into a divisive thread or what? So other than this being designed after someone, what else makes her matter on the ship?

[CrutchCricket]

spychi wrote...

who the **** is jessica chobot and why the **** i care?

ugh because of all the stuff you people have done to worship her i am starting to hate her even more since the moment i saw her in the ME3 cast movie...

What do you mean "you people"?

That aside, this isn't a thread about Jessica Chobot. Likely pros and cons about her being in ME3 will be tossed around but this thread should primarily be about the character. Some people like her, some don't. There is no worship.

I suggest you make up your own damn mind whether you like her or not.

[KateKane]

Travadonna wrote...

There to report terrible happenings of humanity, to win hearts and minds of other species i assume.

She needs to do this from with the most advanced ship in the Alliance, does she?

Tazzmission wrote...
what if shes undercover to monitor shepard as a reporter?

afterall i think him working with erberus would split the alliance 50/50 as to who still trusts him and who dosent.

And yet they still give Shep the Normandy.

Modifié par KateKane, 31 janvier 2012 - 09:44 .

[DigitalMaster37]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

I don't think it's a good idea to judge before you see/play but whatever. I do wonder why you post here if you're determined to hate her though.

What I am complaining about is the logic behind the writing - that a reporter is travelling along the Normandy. It insults Shepard's intelligence, and by extension my intelligence. I don't care even if the reporter is my favorite character. I'd just be as indignant if it's Wong (one of my favorite characters) or Al-Jilani (also one of my favorite characters).

And you know this how??