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#101
Rudy Lis

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incinerator950 wrote...

If you watched the Beta, they announced that Ashley is a Lt. Commander.  Shepard is a Staff Commander.  Kaiden was of equal rank to Shepard in ME 2.  She went from the final Enlisted rank into a Commission, no big deal.  The deal is she jumped into four Officer ranks, in six months. 



Lieutenant-commander?!Image IPB That's too much. Only if it's her temporary rank. But why, what for and how - no ideas.


incinerator950 wrote...

They didn't fail the homework, they made up their own military rank structure using Marine and Navy ranks.  It's not a direct copy of the US/Canadian militiaries. 


Still disagree here. CoC have perfect rank/post/duty assignment: Sergeant>squad/section, Lt>platoon, Captain>company, Major>battalion, Colonel>regiment. Approximately, of course - since different branches may have their own subdivision.

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NVM

Modifié par Sebbe1337o, 31 janvier 2012 - 07:03 .


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ME 2 codex has all the information you need on Alliance military structure.  

Modifié par incinerator950, 31 janvier 2012 - 07:05 .


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Garrus, given his experience.

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Garrus or Liara

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Bailey or Miranda.
None of the confirmed squaddies are remotely fit to be XO.

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anonymous1193 wrote...

None of the confirmed squaddies are remotely fit to be XO.


This, as much as I like the squad thats being formed none of them would make a good XO. I'd make Joker XO before any of the squad members. Now though according to Alliance military the Virmire Survivor will be the XO.

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mango smoothie wrote...

anonymous1193 wrote...

None of the confirmed squaddies are remotely fit to be XO.


This, as much as I like the squad thats being formed none of them would make a good XO. I'd make Joker XO before any of the squad members. Now though according to Alliance military the Virmire Survivor will be the XO.


Yes, however we never learned the confirmed staff for ME 3. 

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incinerator950 wrote...

mango smoothie wrote...

anonymous1193 wrote...

None of the confirmed squaddies are remotely fit to be XO.


This, as much as I like the squad thats being formed none of them would make a good XO. I'd make Joker XO before any of the squad members. Now though according to Alliance military the Virmire Survivor will be the XO.


Yes, however we never learned the confirmed staff for ME 3. 


Ya but I doubt any of the other crew is going to be higher rank than the VS.

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Garrus or Joker

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Always Joker.. Miranda liked to pretend that she was the XO in ME 2 but all my Shep's had a silent agreement with Joker that he runs the ship when needed.

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Will Team Shepard even necessarily be operating under a military model? Might they be organized more along the lines of an intelligence unit, or perhaps even something from the private sector, and thus "rank" would not be near as important?

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Hard to decide.
Ash/Kaidan is not exactly the leader material. At least they never got experience of this kind (at least when I was aware, maybe, during that two years and something that happened between ME1 and 3, they picked up something.
Liara... no way. Her must trusted advisor was an emeny agent and she didn't even spot it. She is a great asset when it comes to hunting information, when it comes to leadership, I have my doubts.
Garrus got most of his unit killed, although it was because of a traitor, so he could be a viable choice. On the other hand, it's an Alliance warship, and as much as I like my Garrus "buddy cop movie" Vakarian, the Alliance wouldn't approve.
Joker... well, he is Joker, a pilot, and a bloody good one, but not exactly fitting the role of an XO as it also comes with making hard decisions.
Who else is there? Oh, of course, Vega. Vega is a marine, but he may had some training or experience that involves leadership duties. Will see. But not likely.

So we'll either get someone or get someone back from the previous games, for me it's too early to make a valid guess.

Also, about the Shepard debate. They tend to refer to him as Commander. But Spectres don't have a chain of command. Actually, there's no command structure. Ash/Kaidan being a Spectre too makes them equals.

Modifié par hawat333, 31 janvier 2012 - 07:32 .


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General User wrote...

Will Team Shepard even necessarily be operating under a military model? Might they be organized more along the lines of an intelligence unit, or perhaps even something from the private sector, and thus "rank" would not be near as important?


No, it will probably revert to the Military structure similar to ME 1.  My guess is it will probably be more leniant.  Shepard is still Military, his crew will be Alliance staff.  Which is why I don't expect to see many people outside of the Doctor and Joker. 

For responsibility, I'm expecting the XO to be some Alliance personel.  Another Spectre wouldn't make a good one, and Vega seems to be strapped to permanent squad and Shore party.  Xenos Squad members fall outside of the Alliance, and while Shepard has the authority to place them in the ship, they will not be on the ship Staff.

hawat333 wrote...
Also, about the Shepard debate. They tend to
refer to him as Commander. But Spectres don't have a chain of command.
Actually, there's no command structure. Ash/Kaidan being a Spectre too
makes them equals.


He's an officer in the System Alliance.  His Spectre status makes him much less restricted, but he is still bound by the orders and duties in the Alliance.  He seems to be fully reinstated as an Alliance Navy Staff Commander by the time he flees Earth. 

Modifié par incinerator950, 31 janvier 2012 - 07:36 .


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Garrus ofc.

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Descy_ wrote...

Jacob's not in the main squad, so I don't know how he'd be second in command.

Anyway, Garrus for me.

Bros4lyfe dawwwg.


We actually have no idea where Jacob is yet.  Nothing has been announced.

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Miranda did a fine job in ME2.

However, if I have to choose from the problematic group that is Shepard's squad, the VS is easily the most qualified, and likely have few mental issues than the rest of them.

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Erich von Falkenhayn for XO and LI in ME3

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Well... Ashley/Kaidan IS a Spectre...on the other hand Shepard is (simply by being Shepard) first in command and probably able to pick whoever he/she wants...
I can imagine some arguing though if Garrus (or anyone else, for that matter, though I don't see how any of the others would really fit the bill) is chosen, since it's not really respecting the Spectre thing and the Council might get prissy as well as the Alliance, not to mention the VS her/himself...it could prove bothersome to pick anyone but the VS, simply put.

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Ashley would be my choice, although I don't like her much since ME2 I do respect her. Being CO you sometime need people who have other opinion and view on subjects. I think she might have develop much as an character since ME1 and I for one would like to explore her character more. She was after all the only character beside Wrex who had some backbone. Making her realistic, in real life things don't always goes as you want and she represent that. Keep me as a player guessing and role-playing deeper.

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The actual squad probably isn't particularly formal, but you do need to know who is in charge if Shepard takes a couple of rockets to the face.

The Normandy needs someone to be in charge when Shepard isn't there.  And it shouldn't be the pilot, because when things are going wrong he should be focused on piloting the ship..

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setrus86 wrote...

Well... Ashley/Kaidan IS a Spectre...on the other hand Shepard is (simply by being Shepard) first in command and probably able to pick whoever he/she wants...
I can imagine some arguing though if Garrus (or anyone else, for that matter, though I don't see how any of the others would really fit the bill) is chosen, since it's not really respecting the Spectre thing and the Council might get prissy as well as the Alliance, not to mention the VS her/himself...it could prove bothersome to pick anyone but the VS, simply put.


Just saying, Shepard can pick whoever he wants.  He is in Command, however the Normandy crew and staff structure as of the flight from Earth would have already been manned by a Military crew he might not be familiar with. 

From that statement, I'm expecting intelligence or Coms officer, to the VS.

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SheppardJohn wrote...

I hope there will be Armando Baily like on battlestar galactica cause this job would be perfect for him xd


If this happens i'll slip into a comma :D

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Harshfact wrote...

SheppardJohn wrote...

I hope there will be Armando Baily like on battlestar galactica cause this job would be perfect for him xd


If this happens i'll slip into a comma :D


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Come to think of it, will Bailey be back? Does anyone know?

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im going to try and kill VS at first sight.

im going for garrus