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war correspondents wear armor when you they go the to warzones right? i assume she will have some hard suit because if the ship suffers some descompresion is bye bye reporter.


than everyone on the ship would have to wear armor all the time, sorry but that's not going to happen . . . just look at submarines, not everyone on it wears a dive suit, in fact no one on a submarine wears a dive suit, ever


They don't wear fetish dresses either.

apparently you've never served on a submarine or kno ppl who have, they do wear muscle tees and shorts, they don't do it when they're on duty but when they aren't they do wear very relaxing clothes

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so beautiful women can't be in the military? that's how i kno these ppl who say this have never served, i have seen quite a few (more than a few) attractive women in the military, i'm not sure where all this hate is coming from



Where did anyone say she couldn’t be military personnel because of her beauty?


the biggest complaint here is that she is an oversexualized character, insinuating that only ugly chicks would serve in the military

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chengthao wrote...

android654 wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sowtaaw wrote...

war correspondents wear armor when you they go the to warzones right? i assume she will have some hard suit because if the ship suffers some descompresion is bye bye reporter.


than everyone on the ship would have to wear armor all the time, sorry but that's not going to happen . . . just look at submarines, not everyone on it wears a dive suit, in fact no one on a submarine wears a dive suit, ever


They don't wear fetish dresses either.

apparently you've never served on a submarine or kno ppl who have, they do wear muscle tees and shorts, they don't do it when they're on duty but when they aren't they do wear very relaxing clothes


She's not wearing a tee or a tank top, its a latex dress. You don't know what you're talking about.

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apparently you've never served on a submarine or kno ppl who have, they do wear muscle tees and shorts, they don't do it when they're on duty but when they aren't they do wear very relaxing clothes



Military personnel wear fatigues. In Mass Effect 1, the soldiers and personnel on the Normandy wore military issue fatigues. James Vega is shown in several screens wearing Alliance issue fatigues. I cannot imagine they would give Diana a different set just because she is a journalist. She still represents the Alliance, regardless.

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chengthao wrote...

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war correspondents wear armor when you they go the to warzones right? i assume she will have some hard suit because if the ship suffers some descompresion is bye bye reporter.


than everyone on the ship would have to wear armor all the time, sorry but that's not going to happen . . . just look at submarines, not everyone on it wears a dive suit, in fact no one on a submarine wears a dive suit, ever


on submarines yes,  but not on a military deep space ship on combat duty.

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KBomb wrote...

Military personnel wear fatigues. In Mass Effect 1, the soldiers and personnel on the Normandy wore military issue fatigues. James Vega is shown in several screens wearing Alliance issue fatigues. I cannot imagine they would give Diana a different set just because she is a journalist. She still represents the Alliance, regardless.


ummm . . . no we don't, "fatigues" as you call them, are our camoflauged uniforms, what they were wearing on the Normandy are whats called a working uniform

how do we kno she's not a civilian reporter, i've never seen a civilian reporter wearing an actual military issued uniform, they may wear knock offs and cheap imitations but they don't wear actual uniforms worn by actual military personnel

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chengthao wrote...

the biggest complaint here is that she is an oversexualized character, insinuating that only ugly chicks would serve in the military



Nonsense. Those are two separate issues. Saying a character is over-sexualized isn’t saying that only women who wear military issued clothing, appropriate to their station have to be ugly.

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than everyone on the ship would have to wear armor all the time, sorry but that's not going to happen . . . just look at submarines, not everyone on it wears a dive suit, in fact no one on a submarine wears a dive suit, ever


on submarines yes,  but not on a military deep space ship on combat duty.


the same principle applies, even on US Navy ships, during battle stations, Naval personnel don't wear armor unless they're on the weather deck or anything above that, those below decks don't wear any kind of armor

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This board seems to have the most anti-attractive mindset I have ever seen lol. If anyone or any character in the game is above average pretty/sexy and wasn't from ME1, they're automatically stereotyped and raged against. It's almost like a built up jealousy of pretty or popular people taken to the extreme. We don't actually know if Chobot is talented or not at voice acting, because her job is a game reporter. For all we know she's actually a good actress, but to judge her "talent" before even hearing any voiceover is sort of strange. Some people naturally have voices that fit a character and as long as they emote (directors job to get them to do that), they can do a good job. Just like when normal gamers sometimes do their own voiceovers for mods and they actually sound better than most professionals.

Now I do understand that some people believe there is a conflict of interest here, but I don't think it's too extreme or world moving to be an issue. Her bias towards the Mass Effect series is already known and partly why she got the part. It's more about letting a huge ME fan with public appeal have a chance to play a role than somehow fixing reviews. Lastly, gaming coverage isn't quite on par with something like covering an election or getting to the bottom of corporate curruption. Who cares if someone from IGN gets a part in a game and it's not like there hasn't been full disclosure here either.

Basically Mass Effect 3 is going to get a near perfect score despite her role or the actual merits (which I think ME3 will have) of a perfect score.

DrSpoonbender wrote...

With developed characters like Emily Wong & Khalisah al-Jilani I wonder why the need to introduce another reporter in the final chapter. I am mildly concerned that their content may have been supplanted to make room for Diana Allers.

I am not concerned with its impact to the overall game (I am still excited as ever). I am just hoping that my Shepard will still be able to interact with characters I have already found entertaining.


I agree.  Even though i'm indifferent to her role, I would have rather seen Emily Wong instead of Diana Allers on board.

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I completely agree!!

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KBomb wrote...

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the biggest complaint here is that she is an oversexualized character, insinuating that only ugly chicks would serve in the military



Nonsense. Those are two separate issues. Saying a character is over-sexualized isn’t saying that only women who wear military issued clothing, appropriate to their station have to be ugly.


how do we know what she's wearing is military issued? i've seen female tank tops with the US Marine Corps EGA (the USMC insignia), i've seen tube tops that say US Navy on it, how do we know that this was a military issued piece of equipment and not some dress with the Alliance symbol on it? How do we know that she isn't a civilian reporter embedded with military personnel?

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android654 wrote...

chengthao wrote...

android654 wrote...

chengthao wrote...

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war correspondents wear armor when you they go the to warzones right? i assume she will have some hard suit because if the ship suffers some descompresion is bye bye reporter.


than everyone on the ship would have to wear armor all the time, sorry but that's not going to happen . . . just look at submarines, not everyone on it wears a dive suit, in fact no one on a submarine wears a dive suit, ever


They don't wear fetish dresses either.

apparently you've never served on a submarine or kno ppl who have, they do wear muscle tees and shorts, they don't do it when they're on duty but when they aren't they do wear very relaxing clothes


She's not wearing a tee or a tank top, its a latex dress. You don't know what you're talking about.

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maybe this is just the "future" version of relaxing clothes

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chengthao wrote...

ummm . . . no we don't, "fatigues" as you call them, are our camoflauged uniforms, what they were wearing on the Normandy are whats called a working uniform

how do we kno she's not a civilian reporter, i've never seen a civilian reporter wearing an actual military issued uniform, they may wear knock offs and cheap imitations but they don't wear actual uniforms worn by actual military personnel




Well, the Alliance logo would be one indication she works for them. And fatigues are the working uniform of the military lol.

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chengthao wrote...

KBomb wrote...

Military personnel wear fatigues. In Mass Effect 1, the soldiers and personnel on the Normandy wore military issue fatigues. James Vega is shown in several screens wearing Alliance issue fatigues. I cannot imagine they would give Diana a different set just because she is a journalist. She still represents the Alliance, regardless.


ummm . . . no we don't, "fatigues" as you call them, are our camoflauged uniforms, what they were wearing on the Normandy are whats called a working uniform

how do we kno she's not a civilian reporter, i've never seen a civilian reporter wearing an actual military issued uniform, they may wear knock offs and cheap imitations but they don't wear actual uniforms worn by actual military personnel


I can vouch for chengthao's statement. You also gotta remember ships are where you live when you're at sea...you honestly expect us to be wearing our duty uniforms (fatigues or khakis) all the time, except when we're sleeping? Lol nope. Fatigues itch. XD

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I hope there's a renegade option to knock her out

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KBomb wrote...

chengthao wrote...

ummm . . . no we don't, "fatigues" as you call them, are our camoflauged uniforms, what they were wearing on the Normandy are whats called a working uniform

how do we kno she's not a civilian reporter, i've never seen a civilian reporter wearing an actual military issued uniform, they may wear knock offs and cheap imitations but they don't wear actual uniforms worn by actual military personnel




Well, the Alliance logo would be one indication she works for them. And fatigues are the working uniform of the military lol.




we don't call them "fatigues", the US Marines calls them utilities, the Army ACUs, the Navy calls them a service working uniform, no one but civilians calls them fatigues

i've seen clothing with the EGA (the USMC logo), i've seen clothing that says US Navy, just because it has the Alliance symbol on it doesn't mean it was issued by the Alliance, there are a lot of civilian clothing with US Military symbols and logos on them but that doesn't mean they are military issued

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chengthao wrote...

Sowtaaw wrote...

chengthao wrote...

than everyone on the ship would have to wear armor all the time, sorry but that's not going to happen . . . just look at submarines, not everyone on it wears a dive suit, in fact no one on a submarine wears a dive suit, ever


on submarines yes,  but not on a military deep space ship on combat duty.


the same principle applies, even on US Navy ships, during battle stations, Naval personnel don't wear armor unless they're on the weather deck or anything above that, those below decks don't wear any kind of armor


You are missing the point deep space warfare will not follow the us navy  principles. 

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

chengthao wrote...

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Military personnel wear fatigues. In Mass Effect 1, the soldiers and personnel on the Normandy wore military issue fatigues. James Vega is shown in several screens wearing Alliance issue fatigues. I cannot imagine they would give Diana a different set just because she is a journalist. She still represents the Alliance, regardless.


ummm . . . no we don't, "fatigues" as you call them, are our camoflauged uniforms, what they were wearing on the Normandy are whats called a working uniform

how do we kno she's not a civilian reporter, i've never seen a civilian reporter wearing an actual military issued uniform, they may wear knock offs and cheap imitations but they don't wear actual uniforms worn by actual military personnel


I can vouch for chengthao's statement. You also gotta remember ships are where you live when you're at sea...you honestly expect us to be wearing our duty uniforms (fatigues or khakis) all the time, except when we're sleeping? Lol nope. Fatigues itch. XD


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Pizza Man wrote...

I hope there's a renegade option to knock her out

Because hitting women is fun.

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Slidell505 wrote...

Diana is an on board reporter for ANN, she replaces Kelly, meaning she's fling romance. At least that's what's implied in the script. Also, apparently sports bras are standard issue for Alliance reporters.


So she's the new "EZ" option huh? In the words of Fred Flintstone: "Oh boy..."

Definitely looks like it. I dunno she looks more like a fitness instructor then a reporter. Well suppose that might depend on what kind of "reporter" we're talking about it. Not sure why Bioware doesn't just do something like that. Surely ships need fitness instructors to keep the crew in shape? And obviously Shepard needs his exercise.
;)

Honestly sometimes I think these games would be more appropriately rated Teen. I am truly fearful that Bioware is going to specialize in making Fantasy Dating Sims going forward. I mean Mass Effect already tip toes on that and many people have a less then favorable regard for the games as a result. Eh this will just be one more reason why I stay the hell away from Character Sub-Forum. Not really interested in drooling over things that don't exist. And it's pretty obvious fan service too with them using Chobot. 


Oh well don't really care in this instance. If it spares butchering existing characters I'll leave it be.

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chengthao wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I can vouch for chengthao's statement. You also gotta remember ships are where you live when you're at sea...you honestly expect us to be wearing our duty uniforms (fatigues or khakis) all the time, except when we're sleeping? Lol nope. Fatigues itch. XD


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From a naval handbook about regulations.

 

2. CASUAL CIVILIAN ATTIRE. Naval personnel shall
ensure that their dress and personal appearance are appropriate
for the occasion and will not discredit the
Navy. Current styles and fashions which are conservative
and in good taste are authorized. Tank-top shirts, white
undershirts worn as outergarments, cut-off shorts and
shower sandals are appropriate civilian attire for occasions
such as picnics, athletic events, and other casual
daytime activities, otherwise the above items are not
acceptable within the confines of a military installation
.

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KBomb wrote...

chengthao wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I can vouch for chengthao's statement. You also gotta remember ships are where you live when you're at sea...you honestly expect us to be wearing our duty uniforms (fatigues or khakis) all the time, except when we're sleeping? Lol nope. Fatigues itch. XD


Thank You Shipmate



From a naval handbook about regulations.

 

2. CASUAL CIVILIAN ATTIRE. Naval personnel shall
ensure that their dress and personal appearance are appropriate
for the occasion and will not discredit the
Navy. Current styles and fashions which are conservative
and in good taste are authorized. Tank-top shirts, white
undershirts worn as outergarments, cut-off shorts and
shower sandals are appropriate civilian attire for occasions
such as picnics, athletic events, and other casual
daytime activities
, otherwise the above items are not
acceptable within the confines of a military installation


apparently you've never been within the confines of a military installation since when we're in barracks,this is what we wear

and apparently you missed this part "and other casual daytime activities" . . . that means when your not on duty

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KBomb wrote...

chengthao wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I can vouch for chengthao's statement. You also gotta remember ships are where you live when you're at sea...you honestly expect us to be wearing our duty uniforms (fatigues or khakis) all the time, except when we're sleeping? Lol nope. Fatigues itch. XD


Thank You Shipmate



From a naval handbook about regulations.

 

2. CASUAL CIVILIAN ATTIRE. Naval personnel shall
ensure that their dress and personal appearance are appropriate
for the occasion and will not discredit the
Navy. Current styles and fashions which are conservative
and in good taste are authorized. Tank-top shirts, white
undershirts worn as outergarments, cut-off shorts and
shower sandals are appropriate civilian attire for occasions
such as picnics, athletic events, and other casual
daytime activities, otherwise the above items are not
acceptable within the confines of a military installation
.

Is there a reason you are continuing to argue with people who clearly know more about this than you?

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Atakuma wrote...

Is there a reason you are continuing to argue with people who clearly know more about this than you?


because ppl who have never seen combat always seem to kno more about it than those who do, just like ppl who have never served always seem to kno more about the military than those who doImage IPB

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Is she the new fish feeder since kelly's gone?

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Atakuma wrote...

Is there a reason you are continuing to argue with people who clearly know more about this than you?


And you know they do because? They say so? heh

Furthermore, when the Normandy was an Alliance ship in ME1, did you see anyone in their casual clothing? That was the original point.