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tobynator89 wrote...

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

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Awwww, does loosing in a sparring fight upset the mary sues?

It's not about that....Shepards cybered up, it would be ridiculous for Vega to win....BW would be suggesting Vega has natural super human strength if that was the case....Shep isn't naturally the stronger, the cyber augmentation has made him so.


Lol to my knowledge the enhancements were never confirmed to do anything of the sort. It sounds more like you're going; Bwaaaaaa! my shep is undefeatable because I want him to be.

Remember Lair of the Shadow Broker, where Shepard went hand-to-hand... with a YAHG? Shep's obviously got some augs working in his/her favor.


he got away with it on acount of sheer audacity and cutscene powers. Bets are that he'll never pull of something like that again.


I'm not quite sure where I stand on this anymore.  On the one hand we can say that Shepard's fight with the SB might have been helped a lot by the armor she was wearing and the fact that she was shooting at him for the most part - she wasn't exactly dominating the yahg in hand to hand, and actually he was shrugging her off quite easily... but okay, she got a few really good hits in.  On the other hand, yeah, Shep's got all those enhancements...

In any case, I think it's a good idea to not give the impression that Shepard is the best fighter in the galaxy - she's definitely the galaxy's greatest hope for survival and greatest leader and indeed a highly skilled soldier... but there should be some qualities she has that are actually surpassed by others.  Which is sort of already shown in some ways.  Still, would be very dramatic if Shepard gets really beat down by someone and has to come back from that afterwards.

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Drone223 wrote...

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Well, I hope there is some kind of interrupt to win that fight if shepard doesn't win it by default. I will be extremely upset if my shepard is beaten by vega. He's killed two reapers, why should some generic alliance soldier be any trouble?



Becuase before the beacon Shepard was also a generic Alliance soldier? And Shepard's only human, I'm glad Bioware are putting a stop to all this Marry sue BS that Shepards got.

Anyway from what I got from that scene is Shepard's using sparring as a excuse to get Vega to open up, Vega might be more honest about his opinions and past when he's focused on fighting.


^I agree but people have huge ego's about Shepard that they can't stand Shepard losing


Losing to a subordinate makes no sense.

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tobynator89 wrote...

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Awwww, does loosing in a sparring fight upset the mary sues?

It's not about that....Shepards cybered up, it would be ridiculous for Vega to win....BW would be suggesting Vega has natural super human strength if that was the case....Shep isn't naturally the stronger, the cyber augmentation has made him so.


Lol to my knowledge the enhancements were never confirmed to do anything of the sort. It sounds more like you're going; Bwaaaaaa! my shep is undefeatable because I want him to be.

Remember Lair of the Shadow Broker, where Shepard went hand-to-hand... with a YAHG? Shep's obviously got some augs working in his/her favor.


he got away with it on acount of sheer audacity and cutscene powers. Bets are that he'll never pull of something like that again.

The scene with Vega is a cutscene is it not? S/he could very easily get away with it.

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With what we saw in that video. It looked like Vega was about to bend Shepard over and sodomize him.

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so seeing an incomplete cut scene with shepard getting punched in the gut and a slight bloody nose=losing a fight now?

we haven't seen the entire cut scene and its not even a real fight any ways

With what we saw in that video. It looked like Vega was about to bend Shepard over and sodomize him.



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Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 02 février 2012 - 12:45 .


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I'm not quite sure where I stand on this anymore.  On the one hand we can say that Shepard's fight with the SB might have been helped a lot by the armor she was wearing and the fact that she was shooting at him for the most part - she wasn't exactly dominating the yahg in hand to hand, and actually he was shrugging her off quite easily... but okay, she got a few really good hits in.  On the other hand, yeah, Shep's got all those enhancements...

In any case, I think it's a good idea to not give the impression that Shepard is the best fighter in the galaxy - she's definitely the galaxy's greatest hope for survival and greatest leader and indeed a highly skilled soldier... but there should be some qualities she has that are actually surpassed by others.  Which is sort of already shown in some ways.  Still, would be very dramatic if Shepard gets really beat down by someone and has to come back from that afterwards.


to the bolded-

With that artwork showing Leng standing over a defeated Shepard with his foot on the chest, with Shepard's gun in his hand and he's crushing it, I greatly suspect that actually will happen in the first encounter with Leng. I expect the first fight with him will end with Shepard beaten. It actually would make sense too, unlike the Vega fight, because Leng has all the enhancements Shepard has... Possibly even more advanced then what was put into Shepard at that.

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It's not a fight, it's sparring.

Sheps going through the motions.

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This entire thread is just....wrong

And that's what makes it fun. :D

Vega pounding Shepards ass: "Ha you remind me of my old CO"...

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Paragon to go easy on Vega, Renegade to kick his ass.

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MACharlie1 wrote...

omgodzilla wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Awwww, does loosing in a sparring fight upset the mary sues?


I don't mind losing in one scenario but I wan't atleast one outcome where Shepard wins. It could something like this...
Vega has Shepard pinned down on the ground and then there is a renegade interrupt to trip him. He falls right on top of Shepard and they begin wrestling. They're both sweaty as **** and things begin to get super intense. Then Vega grabs Shepard and holds him in a headlock. Shepard is struggling to get out but then he sees a rebar on the ground. Theres a renegade interrupt to pick it up and then BAM! Vega ends up in the med bay.


....

I don't think you quite understand how erotic you made this scenario sound. :o


hahahahahahahahahahahaha oh man I needed a good laugh, thanks

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Vega's gonna get sent out the airlock for this...

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I still think we should get a renegade interrupt to cheat

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Remember devs, Shepard can't ever bleed ever. The playerbase will flip out if they can't (effortlessly) be some Mary Sue invincible God, worshipped by all and the best at everything. Better delay the game to prevent even the possibility of Vega getting even getting one punch in. Gods and Mary Sues do not bleed.

Modifié par Rojahar, 02 février 2012 - 01:22 .


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To be honest, I think Shep was just pulling his punches. At least in some cases, he isn't the kind of guy that beats the living daylights out of someone who is on his crew.

However, I do think Shepard would win if they were ACTUALLY fighting. Not because I don't want Shep to lose, but simply because he has a Hardened skin weave, Hardened Muscle weave, and Hardened Bone weave. That means he has slightly bullet/knife/krogan-proof skin, shatterproof bones, and muscles like Master Cheif.

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I think it would be a fitting foreplay.

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andy69156915 wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...
I'm not quite sure where I stand on this anymore.  On the one hand we can say that Shepard's fight with the SB might have been helped a lot by the armor she was wearing and the fact that she was shooting at him for the most part - she wasn't exactly dominating the yahg in hand to hand, and actually he was shrugging her off quite easily... but okay, she got a few really good hits in.  On the other hand, yeah, Shep's got all those enhancements...

In any case, I think it's a good idea to not give the impression that Shepard is the best fighter in the galaxy - she's definitely the galaxy's greatest hope for survival and greatest leader and indeed a highly skilled soldier... but there should be some qualities she has that are actually surpassed by others.  Which is sort of already shown in some ways.  Still, would be very dramatic if Shepard gets really beat down by someone and has to come back from that afterwards.


to the bolded-

With that artwork showing Leng standing over a defeated Shepard with his foot on the chest, with Shepard's gun in his hand and he's crushing it, I greatly suspect that actually will happen in the first encounter with Leng. I expect the first fight with him will end with Shepard beaten. It actually would make sense too, unlike the Vega fight, because Leng has all the enhancements Shepard has... Possibly even more advanced then what was put into Shepard at that.

Now that would make a lot more sense...thank you Andy.

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I-am-Biwinning wrote...

Well, I hope there is some kind of interrupt to win that fight if shepard doesn't win it by default. I will be extremely upset if my shepard is beaten by vega. He's killed two reapers, why should some generic alliance soldier be any trouble?


Because no matter how badass you are, there is somebody out there who can kick your ass. For Shep it is apparently James Vega. Nobdoy, and I mean nobody is invincible.

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Maybe Vega is generically enhanced? Either case, the moment he does damage to my shep... Boom. Just to reinforce who is alpha male

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Vega can probably solo the Reaper fleet if he felt like it.

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Paragon to go easy on Vega, Renegade to kick his ass.


This, exactly this. It should be an option. Perhaps a middle of the road approch would be to have an even spar with him.  I'd imagine it as multiple times during the fight where a paragon inturrupt causes a counter, with softer sparring strikes to follow up, whereas the renegade interrupt have shepard going hard on him. After everything shepard has been through, it at least should be an option to beat vega's face in, have an even sparring match, or possibly let him win. It would baffle me if bioware were to simply say "nope vega is better, you have no choice. Forget this silly roleplyaing idea" Why not let renegade shepards straighten him out?

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I think it's worth noting that given how much bigger Vega is than Shepard, he may still be stronger than Shep, despite Shep's enhancements (if Shepard wasn't Lazarus-enhanced, Vega would be miles stronger). Having said that, it probably doesn't matter much in that scene anyway - as others have said, they're just sparring.

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If it was real Vega wouldn't win even if he is secretly loaded up with enhancements. To steal (and change) a quote from David Gemmell..."If it was a fight for wealth I would pick Vega, but in a fight to the death there would only be Shepard".

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I-am-Biwinning wrote...

D4rkSektor wrote...

Paragon to go easy on Vega, Renegade to kick his ass.


This, exactly this. It should be an option. Perhaps a middle of the road approch would be to have an even spar with him.  I'd imagine it as multiple times during the fight where a paragon inturrupt causes a counter, with softer sparring strikes to follow up, whereas the renegade interrupt have shepard going hard on him. After everything shepard has been through, it at least should be an option to beat vega's face in, have an even sparring match, or possibly let him win. It would baffle me if bioware were to simply say "nope vega is better, you have no choice. Forget this silly roleplyaing idea" Why not let renegade shepards straighten him out?


That's what I'm thinking. A paragon Shep would let him get in his hits, maybe to get him talking. A renegade Shep would knock him around to establish dominance. Either way, I predict Shep would win in the end. Either that or paragon will call it off before he has to get brutal. Honestly, I think Shep could take Vega in a fight.

But it will not bother me if I'm wrong.

Edit: Clarification

Modifié par mghjr6, 02 février 2012 - 01:15 .


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omgodzilla wrote...

Vega pounded his ass pretty hard. 


Vega confirmed for bi-sexual love interest

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I vote for a Renegade option in which Shepard repeatedly elbows him.