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[DJBare]

LadyDrusilla wrote...

You do know this is a setting where medical advancements mean people intheir 50s and 60s don't look older than 25, right? FemShep is in her 30s, fo reason why she wouldn't look like she does. I really wish people would actually familiarise themselves with the setting before spouting off about this.

Ahh, so that's why male shep looks older and more seasoned in ME3, I wish people would not spout nonsence when I'm just stating my opinion that a spar between vega and the currently shown femshep would look "odd"

Modifié par DJBare, 02 février 2012 - 07:47 .

[seirhart]

As is show in ME 1 and ME 2 shepard doesn't care one bit about regs or even alliance regs and shepard is rather lenient. Each commanding officer in any military runs their ship how they want, if they want to duel someone else who is their rank or lower on their own ship then more power to them I say.

[100k]

BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

Or Bioware could have made it an Interactive Scene that the Players could Influence the outcome maybe make it a Quick Time Event.

I am not against Shepard getting beaten but I expect the one who Bests him has to be more than some run of the Mill Military Grunt like Vega as alot of people have said Shepard has the Ability to Go Hand 2 Hand with a Yahg and as well as Krogans.

My point is if Shepard gets his A** beat it should be by a Reaper Indoctrinated Foe a perfect Example was mentioned ealier Saren I wouldn't mind losing to a Strong Foe like that but not to a Grunt like Vega.

Meh. As I said before, there are a handful of people who *might* rival Shepard in CQC. 

Thane is (I think we can all agree) probably the best hand-to-hand fighter in the series. 

The rest are debatable...

Wrex has the experience to lay anyone out out

Ashley/Kaiden-- as Specters, are also pretty good.

Garrus, Zaeed, Grunt, Samara, and maybe Jacob also are highly trained enough to take Shepard.

Now, we shouldn't refer to Vega as a grunt, as he is a EXTREMELY well trained soldier. Do I think he's at Shepard's level? Definitely not. Does he have great combat skills that would beat most other people? Definitely. 

[implodinggoat]

seirhart wrote...

As is show in ME 1 and ME 2 shepard doesn't care one bit about regs or even alliance regs and shepard is rather lenient. Each commanding officer in any military runs their ship how they want, if they want to duel someone else who is their rank or lower on their own ship then more power to them I say.

No a commanding officer in any military does not run their ship the way they want because if they can't maintain efficient control over their ship, battalion, etc. then they will lose their command to another officer who can.

Command positions are cherished and their is a lot of competition to get them and hold onto them.

PS: You're right in pointing out that Shepard is a weak commanding officer and its bothered me throughout the entire series.

[BobZilla84]

True Enough Jreezy I concede my remark about Krogans but still Shepard wen't Toe to Toe with a Yahg Hand to Hand combat against a Yahg is very impessuive by all standards.

Also as I said I am not against Shepard losing a fight but I just think Bioware should have made it optional maybe you let Vega win and he opens up to you or something or you could beat his A** and put him in his place then Vega could concede and tell you about himself.

[Shifty Assassin]

I have a feeling that wether you lose or win that match might depend on your morality. Paragon=loss Renegade=win. Something along the lines of paragon Shepard letting him win and renegade Shepard kicking his ass regardless of the situation.

[DJBare]

implodinggoat wrote...
No a commanding officer in any military does not run their ship the way they want because if they can't maintain efficient control over their ship, battalion, etc. then they will lose their command to another officer who can.

Command positions are cherished and their is a lot of competition to get them and hold onto them.

PS: You're right in pointing out that Shepard is a weak commanding officer and its bothered me throughout the entire series.

It's a war with the galaxy at stake, I doubt anyone is feeling like being picky about regulations, vega maybe questioning Shepards ability to lead, now Shepard could follow regulations and throw him in the brig and he would be within his rights as commander to do so, but they are going to need everyone they can get in this fight, and I would sooner trust a commander that has the courage to knock me on my rear end than one that takes the easy regulation route.

[LadyDrusilla]

He still looks like a male model, because his appearance is based on that of a male model. He had a bit of facial hair (which women conveniently can't grow) and all of a sudden he is 'seasoned'?

DJBare wrote...

LadyDrusilla wrote...

You do know this is a setting where medical advancements mean people intheir 50s and 60s don't look older than 25, right? FemShep is in her 30s, fo reason why she wouldn't look like she does. I really wish people would actually familiarise themselves with the setting before spouting off about this.

Ahh, so that's why male shep looks older and more seasoned in ME3, I wish people would not spout nonsence when I'm just stating my opinion that a spar between vega and the currently shown femshep would look "odd"

[DJBare]

LadyDrusilla wrote...

He still looks like a male model, because his appearance is based on that of a male model. He had a bit of facial hair (which women conveniently can't grow) and all of a sudden he is 'seasoned'?

Sorry, I cannot continue a discussion with someone who keeps top posting.

[LadyDrusilla]

Convenient way of not responding with any kind of argument.

[implodinggoat]

DJBare wrote...

It's a war with the galaxy at stake, I doubt anyone is feeling like being picky about regulations, vega maybe questioning Shepards ability to lead, now Shepard could follow regulations and throw him in the brig and he would be within his rights as commander to do so, but they are going to need everyone they can get in this fight, and I would sooner trust a commander that has the courage to knock me on my rear end than one that takes the easy regulation route.

I would have very little trust in a commanding officer who allowed his subordinates to openly defy him/her.

Shepard seems to command entirely through charisma and inspiring the faith of his crew and while that may work for someone who saved the entire galaxy in a fictional setting in the real world an officer needs to lay down the law sometimes.

[DJBare]

LadyDrusilla wrote...

Convenient way of not responding with any kind of argument.

What is it I need to argue?, in my opinion a spar between vega and the currently shown FemShep would look odd as a scene, there is no argument, it's just my opinion, I assume I am allowed an "opinion" yes?

[DJBare]

implodinggoat wrote...
I would have very little trust in a commanding officer who allowed his subordinates to openly defy him/her.

Shepard seems to command entirely through charisma and inspiring the faith of his crew and while that may work for someone who saved the entire galaxy in a fictional setting in the real world an officer needs to lay down the law sometimes.

The earth is already under attack, the first wave has already hit the alliance pretty hard, now if you want to follow the rule book then in reality you are going to be throwing a lot of people into the brig, there's going to be panic and fear, even your most couragous soldier is going to be sweating when he sees his home world being all but destroyed, he questons you, you throw him in the brig, he now feels useless and his moral has fallen to an all time low, I agree with regulations, there is reason they are put in place, but sometimes you have to step outside those regulations when dealing with people in desperate situations.

Modifié par DJBare, 02 février 2012 - 08:41 .

[Golden Owl]

DJBare wrote...

LadyDrusilla wrote...

Convenient way of not responding with any kind of argument.

What is it I need to argue?, in my opinion a spar between vega and the currently shown FemShep would look odd as a scene, there is no argument, it's just my opinion, I assume I am allowed an "opinion" yes?

As an older woman myself...I strongly agree with this statement...nothing to do with equality, just honesty....I found the concept of femShep and the Yahg just as immersion breaking also, if not even more so.

[SockPuppet317]

Only broShep gets the sparring scene. When Vega says 'let's dance' to femShep, he's literally expressing interest in a dance off. Or maybe a Space DDR tournament. 

In any event, I think we all know who'll emerge victorious. Nobody can hope to top this.

Well, except maybe Techno Turian...

Modifié par SockPuppet317, 02 février 2012 - 08:50 .

[seirhart]

Shepard runs the normandy his way and his way is being lenient with the regs and as is shown in ME 1 and 2 he doesn't care about regs. So again if he wants to duel someone his rank or lower then more power to him.

[implodinggoat]

You don't need to throw someone in the brig to instill discipline.

EX: My grandfather commanded a tank battalion. Once the mechanics in his motorpool weren't getting his tanks up and running fast enough. So he had the mechanics work in the mess hall for the next week and had the cooks work on the tanks. The cooks did a surprisingly good job and when the mechanics got their jobs back the next week they had been effectively shamed into getting their act together.

[Lotion Soronarr]

implodinggoat wrote...

Shepard is the COMMANDING OFFICER!  

As a commanding officer you never allow your subordinates to get into a situation that undermines your authority.   If you want to spar with someone your own rank or someone who isn't under your command that's one thing; but you can't allow your subordinates to be punching you in the face while they question your leadership.

There are plenty of ways to blow off steam and relate to your men that don't involve undermining your authority.

Talking in private is not undermining authority.

Frankly, I'd never, ever trust an officer that strust around like in infallibe dictator.

Commanding officers SHOULD be questioned - but not in the thick of battle. Back at hte bease, between missions, in private? Perfect time and place.

[Gabey5]

omgodzilla wrote...

Vega pounded his ass pretty hard. Bloody nose and everything. I hope we get a renegade interrupt to kick him in th nuts or poke him in the eye so we could win the fight. Seriously, I'd love to play dirty for once.

God forbid they portray Shepard as actually human and not some God mode cyborg


but the mary sues won`t have it, Shepard cannot lose any engagment ever to them

Modifié par Gabey5, 02 février 2012 - 08:59 .

[Seboist]

DJBare wrote...

LadyDrusilla wrote...

Convenient way of not responding with any kind of argument.

What is it I need to argue?, in my opinion a spar between vega and the currently shown FemShep would look odd as a scene, there is no argument, it's just my opinion, I assume I am allowed an "opinion" yes?

It's indeed no argument, there's no question it would look ridiculous with femshep like this does:



Femshep with her twiggy like physique trying to spar with a buffed up marine would be a laugh riot. I can't imagine her hand not shattering upon punching him.

[marstor05]

shep can take Vega apart if he wants. It's not a fight - just a couple of soldiers discussing their feelings over a nice mutual punchup.

[Fates end]

Seboist wrote...

DJBare wrote...

LadyDrusilla wrote...

Convenient way of not responding with any kind of argument.

What is it I need to argue?, in my opinion a spar between vega and the currently shown FemShep would look odd as a scene, there is no argument, it's just my opinion, I assume I am allowed an "opinion" yes?

It's indeed no argument, there's no question it would look ridiculous with femshep like this does:

*snip*

Femshep with her twiggy like physique trying to spar with a buffed up marine would be a laugh riot. I can't imagine her hand not shattering upon punching him.

Seeing as Shepard has been heavily modified and augmented with technology.  I think it would be more Shepard's fist shattering Vega's face, if she hit him full force.

[Gabey5]

Fates end wrote...

Seboist wrote...

DJBare wrote...

LadyDrusilla wrote...

Convenient way of not responding with any kind of argument.

What is it I need to argue?, in my opinion a spar between vega and the currently shown FemShep would look odd as a scene, there is no argument, it's just my opinion, I assume I am allowed an "opinion" yes?

It's indeed no argument, there's no question it would look ridiculous with femshep like this does:

*snip*

Femshep with her twiggy like physique trying to spar with a buffed up marine would be a laugh riot. I can't imagine her hand not shattering upon punching him.

Seeing as Shepard has been heavily modified and augmented with technology.  I think it would be more Shepard's fist shattering Vega's face, if she hit him full force.

That does not make him stronger, it may even make him weaker.

[atheelogos]

I-am-Biwinning wrote...

Well, I hope there is some kind of interrupt to win that fight if shepard doesn't win it by default. I will be extremely upset if my shepard is beaten by vega. He's killed two reapers, why should some generic alliance soldier be any trouble?

U make it sound like shep killed those Reapers with his hands.... Shep isn't the best at everything man. Have some humility. lol^_^

[atheelogos]

Gabey5 wrote...

Fates end wrote...

Seboist wrote...

DJBare wrote...

LadyDrusilla wrote...

Convenient way of not responding with any kind of argument.

What is it I need to argue?, in my opinion a spar between vega and the currently shown FemShep would look odd as a scene, there is no argument, it's just my opinion, I assume I am allowed an "opinion" yes?

It's indeed no argument, there's no question it would look ridiculous with femshep like this does:

*snip*

Femshep with her twiggy like physique trying to spar with a buffed up marine would be a laugh riot. I can't imagine her hand not shattering upon punching him.

Seeing as Shepard has been heavily modified and augmented with technology.  I think it would be more Shepard's fist shattering Vega's face, if she hit him full force.

That does not make him stronger, it may even make him weaker.

How the hell do cybernetic enhancements make u weaker?........