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[Fates end]

Gabey5 wrote...




That does not make him stronger, it may even make him weaker.

Assuming Shepard recieved all of the physical upgrades mentioned earlier in the thread, I fail to see how it would make him/her weaker.  Shepard was able to engage a Yagh in hand-to- (paw?)   and come out of the fight in one piece, even aided by Liara, that's pretty impressive.

Against a more regular-sized (and not as enhanced) human, I imagine Shepard's enhancements would allow him/her to beat that person into a bloody pulp, if it were a lethal fight.

I personally hope there's an option for Shepard to win the fight, simply by experience, if nothing else.  But I imagine Shepard is sparring to try and prove a point to Vega, and maybe not necessarily to win.

[Gabey5]

Fates end wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...




That does not make him stronger, it may even make him weaker.

Assuming Shepard recieved all of the physical upgrades mentioned earlier in the thread, I fail to see how it would make him/her weaker.  Shepard was able to engage a Yagh in hand-to- (paw?)   and come out of the fight in one piece, even aided by Liara, that's pretty impressive.

Against a more regular-sized (and not as enhanced) human, I imagine Shepard's enhancements would allow him/her to beat that person into a bloody pulp, if it were a lethal fight.

I personally hope there's an option for Shepard to win the fight, simply by experience, if nothing else.  But I imagine Shepard is sparring to try and prove a point to Vega, and maybe not necessarily to win.

IIRC correctly in the lore it is never mentioned that shepard is made stronger. It like getting a plate in your skull or a knee replacement with metal. It will not necessarily make you stronger

I think they just did the yagh fight so it would look cool, like the headbutting krogan scene on Tuchanka

No way shepard would be able to do that and shrug it off

TIM went out of his way to keep shepard as is, mentally and as much as possible physically.

[AlexXIV]

Bleh Shep doesn't need to be a Mary Sue but I rather have Garrus kick his arse than Vega. Where does it leave Garrus anyway if he refuses sparring with femShep for fear to get his arse kicked and where does it leave Vega if he beats up femShep. I hope this doesn't happen really.

[atheelogos]

Gabey5 wrote...

Fates end wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...




That does not make him stronger, it may even make him weaker.

Assuming Shepard recieved all of the physical upgrades mentioned earlier in the thread, I fail to see how it would make him/her weaker.  Shepard was able to engage a Yagh in hand-to- (paw?)   and come out of the fight in one piece, even aided by Liara, that's pretty impressive.

Against a more regular-sized (and not as enhanced) human, I imagine Shepard's enhancements would allow him/her to beat that person into a bloody pulp, if it were a lethal fight.

I personally hope there's an option for Shepard to win the fight, simply by experience, if nothing else.  But I imagine Shepard is sparring to try and prove a point to Vega, and maybe not necessarily to win.

IIRC correctly in the lore it is never mentioned that shepard is made stronger. It like getting a plate in your skull or a knee replacement with metal. It will not necessarily make you stronger

I think they just did the yagh fight so it would look cool, like the headbutting krogan scene on Tuchanka

No way shepard would be able to do that and shrug it off

TIM went out of his way to keep shepard as is, mentally and as much as possible physically.

"By reinforcing the skeleton with a synthetic weave, bones can be made almost unbreakable. In the event of bone trauma, medi-gel conduits allow for bone regenerations in a matter of days"

Shepard does +25% Melee damage.Perforating the muscles with micro-fibers increases overall strength and decreases the potential for muscle damage from exertion

Strong synthetic fibers can be woven through the skin, dramatically reducing damage taken from most attacks. These fibers also act as a medi-gel conduit, improving healing."

Now if all that doesn't make someone stronger than I don't know what does...

Modifié par atheelogos, 02 février 2012 - 09:30 .

[KotorEffect3]

People are reading way too much into this

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 02 février 2012 - 09:33 .

[AlexXIV]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

People are reading way too much into this

Maybe but if he makes my femShep nose bleed he is going through the airlock at first occation.

[marstor05]

in the red corner, petite little thing femshep, and in the blu corner huge man mountain able to crush a person with his bare hands and trained killer Vega.

Lets get ready to rumble / roflmao / take a reality check.

[KotorEffect3]

Shepard is egging vega on. He wants to see what he is made of.

[Warden130]

For all we know, this may actually be a Male Shepard only event. Although if thats true, you know the Femshep fans are gonna start up a **** storm about it .

atheelogos wrote...

Shepard does +25% Melee damage. Perforating the muscles with micro-fibers increases overall strength and decreases the potential for muscle damage from exertion

Those upgrades are a gameplay feature, doesn't mean they have to incorperate that into the story.

But like someone else said earlier, people are looking way to much into this. Im sure there are some interrupts that would let Shepard win this sparing match, although I would be disappointed if Shepard could win this flawlessly without taking a single hit. That would just be an insult to Vega.

Modifié par Warden130, 02 février 2012 - 09:48 .

[AlexXIV]

marstor05 wrote...

in the red corner, petite little thing femshep, and in the blu corner huge man mountain able to crush a person with his bare hands and trained killer Vega.

Lets get ready to rumble / roflmao / take a reality check.

Size/muscle is not everything. That's a realitiy check for once. If you want to crush something you first have to hit it. Also if you are hard as a rock you don't need to be big. Even small stones can knock you out.

[TCBC_Freak]

He may have reach and muscle, but Femshep has flexibility...Boom, take it and love it!! Haha

[DaJe]

I want Vega to feel insignificant. Because that's what he is. Someone who doesn't deserve to be on the Normandy. My badass femshep doesn't play nice with a stranger, when there is a galaxy to save.

[Last Vizard]

andy69156915 wrote...

eqzitara wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Renegade option is probably to kick the crap out of him.

shoot him in the knee.


I wonder if he will box fem shepard lol.
(Don't give me that feminist crap) He's got at least 80pounds on her. I honestly don't believe she would be consious after one blow. Hes got more muscle in his arm then her whole body.

You're talking about someone who has bones that have been super reinforced with very strong synthetic lacing, has artificial super fiber weave muscles added directly to the real muscles for super strength and endurance , and has skin that has super strong micro fibers that make the skin significantly BULLET PROOF.

How do I know this?

http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Research

Heavy Bone Weave (Skeletal Lattice)
By reinforcing the skeleton with a synthetic weave, bones can be made
almost unbreakable. In the event of bone trauma, medi-gel conduits
allow for bone regenerations in a matter of days.


Heavy Muscle Weave (Microfiber Weave)
Perforating the muscles with micro-fibers increases overall strength
and decreases the potential for muscle damage from exertion.


Heavy Skin Weave (Lattice Shunting)
Strong synthetic fibers can be woven through the skin, dramatically
reducing damage taken from most attacks. These fibers also act as a
medi-gel conduit, improving healing.

The most he could cause is a minor nose bleed. If he punches too hard, a broken hand would be his reward.

The only way this makes sense is if  Shep is going easy on Vega knowing Vega could never win a real fight while Vega being more serious is trying to test Shep.  Depending on which interupt you choose might change how Shep wins the fight, such as:
Paragon: gets him in a submission armbar or something that makes Vega tap out.
Renegade: punches Vega in the face then gut while following up with a kick that sends him across the floor.

Both would show Vega that Shep is on a whole other level.

As to the random people saying this is a **** thread... wait what? one question, would Shep lose to a normal Human? 

A Krogan couldn't overpower CyborgShep, if shep does get get destroyed by Kai... well I hope we can get some better upgrades .

[hangmans tree]

Man, too many give too much credit to cybernetics.
They are there to keep Shep from falling apart in the first place. Secondary, much of Sheps strenght comes from augumented battlesuit with servo-mechanics and other handy enchancements.

And Vega does not seem to me like a noob or newbie as some call him. And I would think that aliance invests in its marines and 'upgrades 'em with meshes and the like. Just like Shepard.

All in all strenght is not about muscle size but its elasticity/buoyancy (for both of the characters). Bruce Lee comes to my mind as an example.

Aye, Lee is a 'mere' human that would mop up the floor with Shep, Vega, Turian, Krogan etc. and kick Reaper ass down from orbit. My opinion of course.

google one inch punch for more of the awesome...

Modifié par hangmans tree, 02 février 2012 - 10:17 .

[hangmans tree]

atheelogos wrote...
"By reinforcing the skeleton with a synthetic weave, bones can be made almost unbreakable. In the event of bone trauma, medi-gel conduits allow for bone regenerations in a matter of days"

Shepard does +25% Melee damage.Perforating the muscles with micro-fibers increases overall strength and decreases the potential for muscle damage from exertion

Strong synthetic fibers can be woven through the skin, dramatically reducing damage taken from most attacks. These fibers also act as a medi-gel conduit, improving healing."

Now if all that doesn't make someone stronger than I don't know what does...

Does it prevent Sheps brain from bouncing off of cranium walls? No? So Shep can sustain damage easily and be one-hit KOed...

Modifié par hangmans tree, 02 février 2012 - 10:15 .

[LadyDrusilla]

Yep, by the logic displayed by some people in this thread Bruce Lee et al would never be able to win a fight against people larger than they.

AlexXIV wrote...

marstor05 wrote...

in the red corner, petite little thing femshep, and in the blu corner huge man mountain able to crush a person with his bare hands and trained killer Vega.

Lets get ready to rumble / roflmao / take a reality check.

Size/muscle is not everything. That's a realitiy check for once. If you want to crush something you first have to hit it. Also if you are hard as a rock you don't need to be big. Even small stones can knock you out.

[Last Vizard]

hangmans tree wrote...

Man, too many give too much credit to cybernetics.
They are there to keep Shep from falling apart in the first place. Secondary, much of Sheps strenght comes from augumented battlesuit with servo-mechanics and other handy enchancements.

And Vega does not seem to me like a noob or newbie as some call him. And I would think that aliance invests in its marines and 'upgrades 'em with meshes and the like. Just like Shepard.

All in all strenght is not about muscle size but its elasticity/buoyancy (for both of the characters). Bruce Lee comes to my mind as an example.

Aye, Lee is a 'mere' human that would mop up the floor with Shep, Vega, Turian, Krogan etc. and kick Reaper ass down from orbit. My opinion of course.
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncapPrTusA[/url]
google one inch punch for more of the awesome...

The movie The Dark Knight comes to mind, does the alliance think a marine is worth two billion credits worth or upgrades? Shep is almost completely rebuilt and he isn't just some corpse stappled back together...

Bruce Lee couldn't kill a Biotic Shep though

[Raizo]

Haasth wrote...

Personally, I hope there's a way to just avoid that fight all together. I can't imagine my Shepard fist fighting with some Alliance soldier for anything really. Not the way my Shepard is anyway. 

Same here. My Shepard's have a very similar attitude to sparring that Ned Stark did in the "Game of Thrones" television series, they don't take part in mock fights/friendly sparring matches becuase they don't want anyone to know what they are capable of when the fighting gets real.

[hangmans tree]

Last Vizard wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Man, too many give too much credit to cybernetics.
They are there to keep Shep from falling apart in the first place. Secondary, much of Sheps strenght comes from augumented battlesuit with servo-mechanics and other handy enchancements.

And Vega does not seem to me like a noob or newbie as some call him. And I would think that aliance invests in its marines and 'upgrades 'em with meshes and the like. Just like Shepard.

All in all strenght is not about muscle size but its elasticity/buoyancy (for both of the characters). Bruce Lee comes to my mind as an example.

Aye, Lee is a 'mere' human that would mop up the floor with Shep, Vega, Turian, Krogan etc. and kick Reaper ass down from orbit. My opinion of course.
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncapPrTusA[/url]
google one inch punch for more of the awesome...

The movie The Dark Knight comes to mind, does the alliance think a marine is worth two billion credits worth or upgrades? Shep is almost completely rebuilt and he isn't just some corpse stappled back together...

Bruce Lee couldn't kill a Biotic Shep though[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie].

Lee would ping-pong his/hers biotics with nunchucks...

Modifié par hangmans tree, 02 février 2012 - 10:20 .

[Kronner]

Bloodied nose hardly means he lost the "fight". I am pretty sure that blindfolded Shepard could kick Vega's ass easily..with the titanium hands and all. lol

[Pinkflu]

I think we're all missing the vital fact, here. And that is that no matter who is tougher, Matriarch Aethyta would slap a singularity on both their asses. No-one can stand against Matriarch Aethyta.

No-one.

[Last Vizard]

hangmans tree wrote...

Last Vizard wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Man, too many give too much credit to cybernetics.
They are there to keep Shep from falling apart in the first place. Secondary, much of Sheps strenght comes from augumented battlesuit with servo-mechanics and other handy enchancements.

And Vega does not seem to me like a noob or newbie as some call him. And I would think that aliance invests in its marines and 'upgrades 'em with meshes and the like. Just like Shepard.

All in all strenght is not about muscle size but its elasticity/buoyancy (for both of the characters). Bruce Lee comes to my mind as an example.

Aye, Lee is a 'mere' human that would mop up the floor with Shep, Vega, Turian, Krogan etc. and kick Reaper ass down from orbit. My opinion of course.
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SncapPrTusA[/url]
google one inch punch for more of the awesome...

The movie The Dark Knight comes to mind, does the alliance think a marine is worth two billion credits worth or upgrades? Shep is almost completely rebuilt and he isn't just some corpse stappled back together...

Bruce Lee couldn't kill a Biotic Shep though.

Lee would ping-pong his/hers biotics with nunchucks...

Anyway Bruce Lee is a bad example,  sure Vega is good at hand to hand however he isn't the martial arts master Bruce Lee is obviously, Sheps bones are nearly unbreakable, muscles are enhanced and his skin itself is stronger... Vega wouldn't win because Shep has been train just as well if not better than Vega otherwise the story would be about Vega becoming a spectre and stopping Sov

The story follows the best or someone that has the potential to be the best.... Kai Leng has better implants/enhancements and is a martial arts master, I expect Shep to lose to him but never to Vega

[Chewin]

Someone With Mass wrote...

James is not the only one.

Interesting.