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[revnant31]

After playing this and having a great time with it like i did with the Baldurs Gate series, i actually want to install the series again and play through it for nostalgia's sake, i proud to say that i still have the originals in box with everything in storage, there are just some games that i keep for personal collection and never sell or trade.



I actually regret buying this game on Direct2Drive and not a collectors edition cause this game will be added to the personal collection of the true PC gaming gems.



As far a DLC goes, i understand why people don't like the idea but I've come to terms with it for todays gaming. It's something your just going to have to accept and choose whether to buy it or not, while being an older gamer myself, i too miss the old days where we get full blown expansion packs BUT i also understand that business models change over the years especially during a time of a recession.



From a business standpoint making small DLC features brings in cash much more effectively and quicker than spending a whole year or more developing an entire expansion pack with a full team.

[Kaosgirl]

For the 'main' intended topic, I loved BG.  in spite of it's taking place in the Forgotten Realms.  I will probably go back and play through it again in a bit, though... I tend to have to wait between replays on story-driven games, so after I finish DA:O it'll have to wait awhile before I can come back to it.

Now some responses to previous comments..

Ulrik the Slayer wrote...
Yes, because back in those games you got a full game right off the bat when you bought it. I know, its silly of me to think thusly....

As I recall, both of the BG games had add-on expansions and patches of subjectively debatable necessity.  (Most of the issues patched never affected me, but they were 'breaking' the game for some people at the time.)  And BG2 doesnt even really 'finish' without the expansion.  

DLC is essentially the same thing as an expansion pack, just with a different delivery format.

Ulrik the Slayer wrote...
That's funny. Baldur's Gate series didn't need "another 5 years of development time". Nor did it need a lot of patching and tweaking.

Quibbles about the word "need" aside:  yeah, it did.  Unless you waited 5 years and got one of the "battle chest" editions that came with the patches and expansion packs

chaosapiant wrote...
In respect to either case, I will say the one thing I really miss is boxed expansion packs. There is nothing cooler than looking forward to opening a shiny new box with 20-40 more hours of your favorite game.

Meh.  Like I said above DLC is pretty much the same thing - minus the shiny new box.   I can understand some people missing the anticipation factor or the 'shiny material component' aspect, but I can also understand some people preferring the relative convenience of digital delivery.  

I think if you really want to "blame" anyone, blame the advent of broadband connections.  Thats what made DLC a viable (and therefore 'preferable') alternative to releasing boxed expansions.

Ulrik the Slayer wrote...That's hardly a reedeming factor, now is it? And if DLC is what keeps the non-monthly fee gaming alive, I wonder how the heck the gaming industry has managed to survive up till this point!

By competing in a different environment than it faces today.  Duh.  
Things change in the market, and necessitate new approaches if one wants to do more than just retire on the glory of one's past achievements.

[Blakes 7]

Its funny through that after playing dao I tried bg2 again and found the convenience of the user interface from bg2 far and away more convenient apart from the inventory chess mini game; biggest gripe for me about the da user interface is the click detection which fails to register far too often and the lack of an ingame tutorial to get to grips with the tactics options. And yeah I mean far and away more variety in bg2 in terms of party composition and quests and everything etc It just looked way better in an overhead view than da did too in my opinion - just my opinion by the way so please can other people find it in their hearts to not correct someone who is 'wrong on the internet' - man that still cracks me up! Really there is no need this is a discussion about peoples preferences - there is no right or wrong opinion on this

[fr4gged]

I actually find myself being unable to play a lot of classic games for one reason: games are getting better. Nostalgia makes past gaming experiences seem better but in reality the interface and controls of today's games are better than before (Excluding some genres like FPS games). Did Wolfenstein 3d have mouselook? I honestly don't remember. Heck I remember playing Dune II... No way to hotkey crap in that game.

I lament the loss of the game manual. When I picked up a copy of MW2 the game manual was around 12 pages. I WAS CHEATED. I actually don't mind buying the game digitally on Steam because of the loss of the manual. I actually find that most games today try very hard to make the interfaces far more intuitive. The game's lore can be enhanced by a good manual, but a good narrative more than makes up for it.

On to DLC. Do you guys even remember what kind of support you can expect from most companies without DLC? This is capitalism people. Most companies don't support their games indefinitely. The most I expect from game companies are patches to fix bugs in a game and THAT'S IT. You know what happens to all that other content? IT'S GONE. It's business people. While I don't like it if a company is trying to nickel and dime me for DLC (which is situational), I can honestly say that for games that I get value from, it's worth it.

It's either some kind of DLC that we get for a year and then a major expansion or sequel or we get NOTHING in the meantime.

I think DLC is a great change to the industry as long as companies are responsible with it. If you honestly think EA/Bioware is nickel and diming you for a game with as much content as DA:O you are delusional. Save your criticism for where it belongs, those BS FPS map packs.

Modifié par fr4gged, 24 novembre 2009 - 03:03 .