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So this afternoon I finished my first M!Shep/Cortez playthrough and I have to say that I really wish there was more to it. It just felt that there should have been more to the romance scene than just a cutaway then the dream sequence then the wake-up scene. They really could have used the body models for the M!Shep/Kaidan scene and just make the model for Cortez darker. Would that have been so difficult?

Not to say that the romance arc wasn't 100% lacking, though. Seeing Steve cry as he hears the audio recording from his husband was definitely a heartbreaking moment. And yeah, the ending still sucketh but it was nice to see Steve come out of the Normandy at endgame along with Vega. At least there was some consolation in that.

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MageTarot wrote...

So this afternoon I finished my first M!Shep/Cortez playthrough and I have to say that I really wish there was more to it. It just felt that there should have been more to the romance scene than just a cutaway then the dream sequence then the wake-up scene. They really could have used the body models for the M!Shep/Kaidan scene and just make the model for Cortez darker. Would that have been so difficult?

Not to say that the romance arc wasn't 100% lacking, though. Seeing Steve cry as he hears the audio recording from his husband was definitely a heartbreaking moment. And yeah, the ending still sucketh but it was nice to see Steve come out of the Normandy at endgame along with Vega. At least there was some consolation in that.

My problem with both Steve and Kaidan's romance is that there's a big gap between the date scene and the sex scene before Cronos Station. That's a problem with all romances in ME3 though, but especially new ones. There really should've been a 'middle' romance scene to make the pacing better. At least Steve has tons of ambient romance lines in between the date and sex scene, probably the most of all characters. But for my future playthroughs, I will just leave Steve and Kaidan's date scene for (much) latter in the game.

Anyway, which was your favourite romance line with Steve Mage? :devil: Mine's probably how he says that he thoguht he felt connection, but he was just afraid it may have only benn hope dawww :wub: No Steve, my Shep loves you <3 Ohh and of course how asks my Shep if he needs help with "reports" again tonight xD

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IsaacShep wrote...

[Anyway, which was your favourite romance line with Steve Mage? :devil: Mine's probably how he says that he thoguht he felt connection, but he was just afraid it may have only benn hope dawww :wub: No Steve, my Shep loves you <3 Ohh and of course how asks my Shep if he needs help with "reports" again tonight xD


I lol'd when Steve told Shepard he was thnking about the cramped space Shepard had to share with his squad mates when leaving the Reaper Dreadnought  with Legion piloting and Shepard suggested that next time they can 'do it under the bed'.

Makes you kind of wonder what else Shepard learned during his Spectre training!

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lookingglassmind wrote...

Thank you! What a lovely compliment. *beams*

I will be continuing the story. Next chapter will be up within the next 24 hours.

I'm glad you've enjoyed what you've read so far.

Yass can't wait :3 <3 :devil: Also, I submitted your fanfic to fuckyeahshepcortez.tumblr.com/ Hope you don't mind, but it's a great resource for all thins Sheptez :D


Thank you, a million times over! I love that blog, and for you to have submitted something on my behalf is incredible of you. I am in your debt. It's because of your submission, I think, that I have gained the followers that I have.

The next installment is up, and there will be another one within the next day. :D

Again, thank you!

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MageTarot wrote...

So this afternoon I finished my first M!Shep/Cortez playthrough and I have to say that I really wish there was more to it. It just felt that there should have been more to the romance scene than just a cutaway then the dream sequence then the wake-up scene. They really could have used the body models for the M!Shep/Kaidan scene and just make the model for Cortez darker. Would that have been so difficult?

Not to say that the romance arc wasn't 100% lacking, though. Seeing Steve cry as he hears the audio recording from his husband was definitely a heartbreaking moment. And yeah, the ending still sucketh but it was nice to see Steve come out of the Normandy at endgame along with Vega. At least there was some consolation in that.


I think they did a great job with Cortez and his romance up until you finish the club scene.  It's like everything after that is just rushed and he's sort of forgotten. Plus it really sucks that in the end scene as Shepard is about to activate the catalyst you don't even get a cut to Steve's face like you do with Kaidan, instead they give you LIARA! (that **** lol).  Even though I'm a kaidanite now I still have my saved game with Steve and I hope they give us some closure in the DLC.
Oh and lastly the lighting during the Steve romance scene is terrible, I know he's dark but it was like making love to a shadow with blue eyes.

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AndreasShepard wrote...

MageTarot wrote...

So this afternoon I finished my first M!Shep/Cortez playthrough and I have to say that I really wish there was more to it. It just felt that there should have been more to the romance scene than just a cutaway then the dream sequence then the wake-up scene. They really could have used the body models for the M!Shep/Kaidan scene and just make the model for Cortez darker. Would that have been so difficult?

Not to say that the romance arc wasn't 100% lacking, though. Seeing Steve cry as he hears the audio recording from his husband was definitely a heartbreaking moment. And yeah, the ending still sucketh but it was nice to see Steve come out of the Normandy at endgame along with Vega. At least there was some consolation in that.


I think they did a great job with Cortez and his romance up until you finish the club scene.  It's like everything after that is just rushed and he's sort of forgotten. Plus it really sucks that in the end scene as Shepard is about to activate the catalyst you don't even get a cut to Steve's face like you do with Kaidan, instead they give you LIARA! (that **** lol).  Even though I'm a kaidanite now I still have my saved game with Steve and I hope they give us some closure in the DLC.
Oh and lastly the lighting during the Steve romance scene is terrible, I know he's dark but it was like making love to a shadow with blue eyes.


Steve suffers from the same romantic dry spell that all the other LI's do after they get together. Although I will say, having played through the Kaidan romance and now playing through the Liara romance, Steve is a lot flirtier than either of them when you talk to him. The Liara thing with the flashback isn't limited to Steve. It happens with any LI that's not Kaidan or Ashley. It's very annoying. I'm hoping they fix that in the extended cut, but I'm not holding my breath.

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AndreasShepard wrote...

Plus it really sucks that in the end scene as Shepard is about to activate the catalyst you don't even get a cut to Steve's face

That's surely gonna get fixed. Bioware did intend to show all LIs, but for some technical reasons they couldn't get anyone but ME1 LIs' flashbacks to work before going gold. Miranda, Tali, Garrus etc. dont' have these flashbacks either. But since it was their intention to show everyone, I'm positive it will get fixed :D

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Just finished a playthrough with Steve romanced and I have to say that I loved it. The subtle changes between a romanced and unromanced Steve are great. And the flirty lines he has when he's out of dialogue are certainly better than Kaidan's 'Yeah, let's talk later -_-' line you get regardless of romance. Definately made up for him not being part of your active squad :D.

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ATTENTION EVERYONE!!!

ME LI book project is ending in 3 days!!! We need to send Shep/Steve contribution!!! Send fanart, screenshots or fan letters supporting Steve/Shep romance! If you're writing letters, don't forget to mention that you want to see more Steve romance content in future ME3 DLC! :happy::happy::happy:

Link with all the info:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/11315889

lookingglassmind wrote...

Thank you, a million times over! I love that blog, and for you to have submitted something on my behalf is incredible of you. I am in your debt. It's because of your submission, I think, that I have gained the followers that I have.

The next installment is up, and there will be another one within the next day. :D

Again, thank you!

Ohh snap totally miseed your post that next chapter is up! :pinched::pinched::pinched: Goes to read NAOW!!! :D:D:D

Have beautiful Steve as a sorry :blush:
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katerinafm wrote...

Just finished a playthrough with Steve romanced and I have to say that I loved it. The subtle changes between a romanced and unromanced Steve are great. And the flirty lines he has when he's out of dialogue are certainly better than Kaidan's 'Yeah, let's talk later -_-' line you get regardless of romance. Definately made up for him not being part of your active squad :D.

Yeah, I wish Kaidan had as much romance lines in between the main scenes as Steve has :( I love how he keeps complimenting my Shep almost everytime I go to the Shuttle Bay <3

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New Bioware blog article on writing Steve/Samantha!

blog.bioware.com/2012/05/07/same-sex-relationships-in-mass-effect-3/

We finally learn who wrote Cortez and it's... Dusty Everman who most already know from writing Dr. Chakwas, Ken, Gabby and Kelly :D 

Hoepfully Dusty will visit this thread, he's been very active in Ken/Gabby's thread here :) C'mon c'mon Dusty, talk to us about Cortez, we don't bite :whistle: :D ;)

Flirting Sheptez as a bonus ;P
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IsaacShep wrote...
Hoepfully Dusty will visit this thread, he's been very active in Ken/Gabby's thread here :) C'mon c'mon Dusty, talk to us about Cortez, we don't bite :whistle: :D ;)


I do visit this thread from time to time.  The reason I spoke out so much in the Ken/Gabby thread was because we accidentally shipped with a nasty bug that basically cut them from most player's games.  Thank goodness that didn't happen with Cortez.

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Dusty Everman wrote...

I do visit this thread from time to time.  The reason I spoke out so much in the Ken/Gabby thread was because we accidentally shipped with a nasty bug that basically cut them from most player's games.  Thank goodness that didn't happen with Cortez.

Yay hi Mr. Everman! :D Love the article, thank you so much for doing great job with Cortez! <3 I've been replaying ME2 since a couple of days and it just feels so empty without him :(

Any chance for more Steve in future DLC? :blush: Especially more romance? :P Would absolutely love if you could write some more Steve :D

Also, as a Vega fan, I very much appreciate their banter in the Shuttle Bay. Did you work on it together with Mac Walters (who I believe wrote Vega)?

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Yay hi Mr. Everman!

To steal from Preston's posts years ago: "Please, Mr. Everman is my dad." Image IPB

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Any chance for more Steve in future DLC? Image IPB Especially more romance? Image IPB Would absolutely love if you could write some more Steve Image IPB

For a bazillion reasons, I can't talk about what may or may not be in future DLC.  The biggest reason is that anything can change before ship. Things get added or cut all the time in game development.

IsaacShep wrote...
Also, as a Vega fan, I very much appreciate their banter in the Shuttle Bay. Did you work on it together with Mac Walters (who I believe wrote Vega)?

I'm glad to hear you like them. I wrote the banter, then Mac did a voice pass on James' lines.  Carlo Lynch, the editor for that conversation, did any last tweaks.

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Great job! You really made the most of the limited in-game time available with Steve. He even shifted my Shep from Kaidan, so I guess that's compliment enough Image IPB. M.

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I’m gathering up a big list of fanfic on the Fan Creations forum.

There’s a sad dearth of Steve…if someone can compile a list and post it over there, that’d be awesome.

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Dusty Everman wrote...
I do visit this thread from time to time.  .

Thank you, Dusty. I love to see in ME3 the these small Sheperd's steps towards Cortez. From a member of the ship's crew, pilot shuttle to a friend and finally "more than just a friend". For me mShepard/Cortez story is more interesting and well written than mShepard/Kaidan Alenko. And of course, we want more Steve... ;) 

Please go on. You're doing all right!

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Dusty Everman wrote...
For a bazillion reasons, I can't talk about what may or may not be in future DLC. The biggest reason is that anything can change before ship. Things get added or cut all the time in game development.

Absolutely understand, was just suggesting ;) Though I won't lie, the "things get added" part definitely makes my hopes go up, can't help it! :D Like others said, we just hop there could be some more content with Steve, especially romance <3

Dusty Everman wrote...
I'm glad to hear you like them. I wrote the banter, then Mac did a voice pass on James' lines. Carlo Lynch, the editor for that conversation, did any last tweaks.

I loved them. Gonna be honest, if it wasn't for those banters, I wouldn't like Vega nearly as much as I did. He's an interesting character but it's his friendship with Steve that show his friendly/caring side

Also, Dusty, what does T-65 Trident looks like? Did we see it anywhere in ME3 (or ME1/ME2)? Can't find any more info on that so I was wondering whether Steve referenced some particular freighter or was it a name you came up with specifically for the purpouse of that conversation

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lillitheris wrote...

I’m gathering up a big list of fanfic on the Fan Creations forum.

There’s a sad dearth of Steve…if someone can compile a list and post it over there, that’d be awesome.

No problem, I will compile the list tomorrow :) Was gonna do it anyway since all the fanfics are scattered all over the place


ElijahRee wrote...

Thank you, Dusty. I love to see in ME3 the these small Sheperd's steps towards Cortez. From a member of the ship's crew, pilot shuttle to a friend and finally "more than just a friend".

I love how much interaction there is before the romance. It's as well done as in ME2, where you had to get to know the squadmates first and solving their "loyalty problems" before going deeper into the relationship. Makes it seem very natural.

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 Hi Everyone.
New guy here, but been lurking for a little while.  I also wanted to just give my thanks to Dusty Everman as well.  Steve was definitely a great edition to the game. Not only was I grateful to have the inclusion of s/s relationships included (always wanted to romance Kaidan since ME1), but to have second option as well was fantastic.  And that he is latino as well, he's basically reppin me in there too. :D

But honestly, he even surpasses Kaidan.  From "getting to know you" phase, helping him get over the grief of losing his husband, becoming friends, and then eventually lovers was really well done. Especially when you think that the concept of time as the game progesses actually takes place over the course of a few months. The BIG PLUS that he has over Kaidan is the fact that he seems to always acknowledges his and Shep's relationship. Kaidan has "grander" scenes, but his "walk-up-to" dialog was severely lacking. Where, on the other hand, Steve always has something to say, even after anything he mentions in regards to any of the missions.  This made it feel a bit more real between them. Steve will always be my choice for my Shep.

Anyways....sorry for the rant.  Again just wanted to say hi and also thanks Dusty.  ^_^

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Angelwave wrote...

 Hi Everyone.
New guy here, but been lurking for a little while.  I also wanted to just give my thanks to Dusty Everman as well.  Steve was definitely a great edition to the game. Not only was I grateful to have the inclusion of s/s relationships included (always wanted to romance Kaidan since ME1), but to have second option as well was fantastic.  And that he is latino as well, he's basically reppin me in there too. :D.

Hi Angelwave, welcome! :happy: You've mentioned something I've been wondering about since some time. Steve definitely has latino roots but isn't he also partially black? I saw quite a few comments on the net saying that he's "blatino", rather than just pure latino. Hmmm... Hope Dusty pops in again and could tell us more about his ethnicity/heritage :D

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I've just realized, there is a huge fault in Steve as a character... I still haven't met him in RL Image IPB... M.

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Frozen83 wrote...

I've just realized, there is a huge fault in Steve as a character... I still haven't met him in RL :crying: ... M.

xD Not possible I'm afraid :P But you could meet his voice actor Matthew Del ******, and pretend it's Steve ;P Check out this interview with him: blip.tv/room314/interview-with-joelle-carter-matthew-del-******-994047 That voice <3 He's quite handsome too, but of course not as handsome as our carmel studmuffin Steve :wub:

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IsaacShep wrote...

Hi Angelwave, welcome! :happy: You've mentioned something I've been wondering about since some time. Steve definitely has latino roots but isn't he also partially black? I saw quite a few comments on the net saying that he's "blatino", rather than just pure latino. Hmmm... Hope Dusty pops in again and could tell us more about his ethnicity/heritage :D


Thanks for the welcome IsaacShep! :D

Yeah I'd say he is mixed. Actually most latin cultures, have a wide range of racial variety, including Asian believe it or not. So it wouldn't surprise me. Heck people look at me, and everyone gets confused. :lol:

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Yeah I'd say he is mixed. Actually most latin cultures, have a wide range of racial variety, including Asian believe it or not. So it wouldn't surprise me. Heck people look at me, and everyone gets confused. :lol:

haha I can imagine xD But hey, it adds mystery *wink wink*
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I suck at recognizing accents, anyone can tell what Steve's accent is and which country he could be from?