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#2001
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Finally that stupid thread is done. It's just ridiculous to me. It seems that no matter what Bioware does, attractive male human characters in this franchise are hated by a part of ME players (usually straight guys). First Kaidan, then Jacob, Vega, Steve. They're called whiny, boring, awful, creepy, meathead or that they want to molest Shep and anything imaginable. I mean seriously, this is so childish

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#2002
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Breaking news. I had no inclination of Steve hitting on my Shepard and I'm straight.

He was never anything less than professional. He was a shuttle pilot who just happened to be gay. He was simply mourning his partner like anyone else would, gay or straight.

It's the same way with Miranda. People can't get past the way she looks. It has nothing to do with the value of the character.

#2003
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Taboo-XX wrote...

Breaking news. I had no inclination of Steve hitting on my Shepard and I'm straight.

He was never anything less than professional. He was a shuttle pilot who just happened to be gay. He was simply mourning his partner like anyone else would, gay or straight.

It's the same way with Miranda. People can't get past the way she looks. It has nothing to do with the value of the character.

I may not have agreed with your posts much before, but this post made you an awesome person in my eyes. ;)

#2004
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Hannah Montana wrote...

I find this character "Steve" to be a very boring, uninteresting and badly written character.
I want to change that outlook.

I see there is 80 pages so far, from those 80 pages what might make me like Steve?


No one is making you do anything, you don't like the character then please go somewhere else, this is as civil as I could put it

#2005
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Vigilant111 wrote...

Hannah Montana wrote...

I find this character "Steve" to be a very boring, uninteresting and badly written character.
I want to change that outlook.

I see there is 80 pages so far, from those 80 pages what might make me like Steve?


No one is making you do anything, you don't like the character then please go somewhere else, this is as civil as I could put it


I want to like the character, convince me.

#2006
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Taboo-XX wrote...

Breaking news. I had no inclination of Steve hitting on my Shepard and I'm straight.

He was never anything less than professional. He was a shuttle pilot who just happened to be gay. He was simply mourning his partner like anyone else would, gay or straight.

It's the same way with Miranda. People can't get past the way she looks. It has nothing to do with the value of the character.


I've never posted here (Only skimmed through), so hello guys.

Anyway, I pretty sure there was no inclination because Shepard has to be the one that initiates the relationship. Through 3-4 separate dialogue stages. I'll never understand how anyone can claim Steve ninjamanced them.

#2007
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Steve Cortez Picspam to Celebrate my First Post Here <3<3<3 (lol derailment)
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lovely art by Stonelions

He doesn't force his feelings to Shepard, offers friendship or love...whatever Shepard needs~
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May it be in the Normandy or in the battlefied, he's a professional and a damn good pilot~
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Oh, look at that he's in the Leviathan DLC, doing exactly what he's supposed to! Gasp, what a spectable! B)

#2008
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Hannah Montana wrote...

I find this character "Steve" to be a very boring, uninteresting and badly written character.
I want to change that outlook.

I see there is 80 pages so far, from those 80 pages what might make me like Steve?

I'm not exactly sure how a thread about a character can change you opinion. Instead, I would rather just listen to what he says. People claim that the only thing about him is his sexuality as if they forgot that he's also a big geek for ships and vehicles, likes to drink with his straight friend Vega (when Garrus says 'drinks on the Citadel' people seeem to love it), and the point of his personal story is not being gay. You could turn Robert into Roberta and it would still be about the same thing - moving on from loss in order to live good life till it's still possible (since the galaxy may soon not even exist anymore). This was part of the overall ME3 war theme regardless of sexual orientations, for example that EDI comment how there's more public displays of affection on the Citadel now since War made people realize more how uncertain life is and that they should try live a good life everyday. This is not just about Steve but Shepard as well since Shepard lost Ash/Kaidan and then he saw how that kid got killed in the opening of ME3. And after this little story is done, you get a pure fun scene at the club with drinks and ONLY then you can start a romance, Steve doesn't hit on Shep unless Shep initiates it.

If someone doesn't like him anyway, it's fine. I'm used to the fact that many people don't care for some of the characters I live very much (Kaidan, Jacob, Steve) but to say that he's just about sexuality is stupid because no one ever would say that Kasumi was just about heterosexuality. Both Steve and Kasumi also talk about other things they like and other aspects of their lives.

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#2009
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Also, cut dialogue for you guys~
extracted by: http://dana-duchovny.livejournal.com/ 

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Steve: That landing in the Cerberus docking bay was a rough one. But I’ve triple-checked the shuttle, and she’s ready to fly. So am I.
* [Romance] Steve: And, Shepard, promise me you’ll be careful on Earth. Don’t go carrying all this on your shoulders. Please don’t go playing the hero. Just come back to me, okay?
> Shepard: Hey, I’ll come back. It’ll take more than a few hundred Reapers to stop me.
Steve: That’s why I love you. Your confidence borders on stupidity.
> Shepard: I’ll try my best, but with so much at stake… we have to do whatever it takes.
Steve: That’s why I love you. You’re annoyingly honest.
* [Friendship] Steve: And, Shepard, I want you to know how much our time together has meant.
Shepard: That sounds like a “goodbye,” Steve. We’re winning this war. We’ll make it through this.
Steve: Of course. Then I’ll see you on the other side. It’s been the greatest honor of my life to have you as my commander… and as my friend.
Shepard: It’s been an honor for me as well, Steve.
Steve: Good luck, Shepard.
* Steve: And, Commander, I just wanted to say it’s been the greatest honor of my life to serve with you.
Shepard: That sounds pretty final, Lieutenant. We’ll look back on this day in victory.
Steve: Yes, Commander.
Shepard: I know you’ll do humanity proud today, Lieutenant.
Steve: I’ll do my best, Commander.
Shepard: Now let’s go kick the Reapers the hell out of our galaxy.
Steve: Yes, sir.

Modifié par laikabaws, 20 août 2012 - 08:08 .


#2010
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COGNiTiON 1 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Breaking news. I had no inclination of Steve hitting on my Shepard and I'm straight.

He was never anything less than professional. He was a shuttle pilot who just happened to be gay. He was simply mourning his partner like anyone else would, gay or straight.

It's the same way with Miranda. People can't get past the way she looks. It has nothing to do with the value of the character.


I've never posted here (Only skimmed through), so hello guys.

Anyway, I pretty sure there was no inclination because Shepard has to be the one that initiates the relationship. Through 3-4 separate dialogue stages. I'll never understand how anyone can claim Steve ninjamanced them.


You only get ninjamanced when you are drunk and clicked the "wrong" dialogue option, so my advice is DON'T GET DRUNK

One more thing if people claim they don't care about Steve, then the reasonable expectation is that they won't interact with him at all, so how exactly do they get ninjamanced is beyond me, unless they enjoy giggling when chatting with Steve, u know, in a disrespectful manner

#2011
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Hannah Montana wrote...
I want to like the character, convince me.


Do you mean, you want to like his character or overall?
I'm compiling you a list for starters. (The list is, of course, influenced by my own opinions)
1. He has a very gentle personality.
  - I really like how he cares about Shep, even if he isn't romanced.
  - I can't even imagine him being angry and that's something.
2. He is physically attractive.
  - Those blue eyes... I can stare them for hours without getting bored.
3. He takes his job seriously.
  - He is not a slacker.
  - He works hard and ensures everybody's safety.
4. He has a touching past.
  - He has lost a loved one about 6-9 months ago. He got over it, but as the invasion started, the only think he grabbed in a hurry was that recording. It all came back to him. The grief, the sorrow, everything.

I could throw that in just from the top of my head. The Leviathan DLC will surely bring more into every aspect of his character.

Remember that no one is forcing you to like him. Talking with him is purely optional.

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#2012
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Beep Il wrote...

Hannah Montana wrote...
I want to like the character, convince me.


Do you mean, you want to like his character or overall?
I'm compiling you a list for starters. (The list is, of course, influenced by my own opinions)
1. He has a very gentle personality.
  - I really how he cares about Shep, even if he isn't romanced.
  - I can't even imagine him being angry and that's something.
2. He is physically attractive.
  - Those blue eyes... I can stare them for hours without getting bored.
3. He takes his job seriously.
  - He is not a slacker.
  - He works hard and ensures everybody's safety.
4. He has a touching past.
  - He has lost a loved one about 6-9 months ago. He got over it, but as the invasion started, the only think he grabbed in a hurry was that recording. It all came back to him. The grief, the sorrow, everything.

I could throw that in just from the top of my head. The Leviathan DLC will surely bring more into every aspect of his character.

Remember that no one is forcing you to like him. Talking with him is purely optional.


I like Steve. I didn't need anybody to convince me for that purpose. If i don't like a character, chances are nobody will convince me otherwise, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

#2013
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Mimitochan wrote...
I like Steve. I didn't need anybody to convince me for that purpose. If i don't like a character, chances are nobody will convince me otherwise, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, Steve himself had me at the hello. :wub:

#2014
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--------------------------------Romance Fans!--------------------------

The results of the ME3 Romance DLC Survey are finally here!

See them on our new blog at: http://me3cosmiclove.wordpress.com/

And, if you really want to get BioWare's attention, help us Rewteet!

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#2015
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Beep Il wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...
I like Steve. I didn't need anybody to convince me for that purpose. If i don't like a character, chances are nobody will convince me otherwise, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, Steve himself had me at the hello. :wub:


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Steve is lovely. Period.
Kaidan too. But that's another thread.

#2016
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Look into his eyes, Look into his eyes, not around the eyes, but into his eyes.
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you're under, now you will do whatever Doodle commands you to do
3, 2, 1, you're back in the room

#2017
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I won't be able to follow your orders Doodle, can't turn away from dem eyes ;P

#2018
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IsaacShep wrote...

I won't be able to follow your orders Doodle, can't turn away from dem eyes ;P


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IsaacShep wrote...

I won't be able to follow your orders Doodle, can't turn away from dem eyes ;P

Yes, I nearly drown in those pretty blue eyes.  Then Steve's voice... /purr

#2020
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IsaacShep wrote...

Finally that stupid thread is done. It's just ridiculous to me. It seems that no matter what Bioware does, attractive male human characters in this franchise are hated by a part of ME players (usually straight guys). First Kaidan, then Jacob, Vega, Steve. They're called whiny, boring, awful, creepy, meathead or that they want to molest Shep and anything imaginable. I mean seriously, this is so childish


The same problem goes with straight female players hating on EDI because she turned into an "attractive humanoid girl" in ME3. It all comes from a very juvenile form of viewing the difference between genders and attraction. It is pretty sad.

PS: that James/Cortez pic made me laugh a lot, I love it.

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#2021
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Steve: That landing in the Cerberus docking bay was a rough one. But I’ve triple-checked the shuttle, and she’s ready to fly. So am I.
* [Romance] Steve: And, Shepard, promise me you’ll be careful on Earth. Don’t go carrying all this on your shoulders. Please don’t go playing the hero. Just come back to me, okay?
> Shepard: Hey, I’ll come back. It’ll take more than a few hundred Reapers to stop me.
Steve: That’s why I love you. Your confidence borders on stupidity.
> Shepard: I’ll try my best, but with so much at stake… we have to do whatever it takes.
Steve: That’s why I love you. You’re annoyingly honest.
* [Friendship] Steve: And, Shepard, I want you to know how much our time together has meant.
Shepard: That sounds like a “goodbye,” Steve. We’re winning this war. We’ll make it through this.
Steve: Of course. Then I’ll see you on the other side. It’s been the greatest honor of my life to have you as my commander… and as my friend.
Shepard: It’s been an honor for me as well, Steve.
Steve: Good luck, Shepard.
* Steve: And, Commander, I just wanted to say it’s been the greatest honor of my life to serve with you.
Shepard: That sounds pretty final, Lieutenant. We’ll look back on this day in victory.
Steve: Yes, Commander.
Shepard: I know you’ll do humanity proud today, Lieutenant.
Steve: I’ll do my best, Commander.
Shepard: Now let’s go kick the Reapers the hell out of our galaxy.
Steve: Yes, sir.


/Delurks - Aww man why wasn't this included in game? I wish Cortez/Shepard had a chance to tell each other they loved each other in game. Although Steve's final "Just come back in one piece okay?" was very heartfelt as well. I would have liked the inclusion. Ah well...

._. Oh hello fellow fans of Steve Cortez. Just thought I'd delurk and ask you fine people if you think there will be romance specific dialogue in the new Leviathan DLC? I for one am VERY happy that it will include Cortez as he is my favorite ME3 character and getting any more content with him would be fantastic and on top of that romance specific dialogue. Fingers crossed :3.

...../Shyly slithers away and goes back to lurking

#2022
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Music wrote...

._. Oh hello fellow fans of Steve Cortez. Just thought I'd delurk and ask you fine people if you think there will be romance specific dialogue in the new Leviathan DLC? I for one am VERY happy that it will include Cortez as he is my favorite ME3 character and getting any more content with him would be fantastic and on top of that romance specific dialogue. Fingers crossed :3.


Yes, there definitely should be even one romance specific line. Like, Shep is reluctant to leave Steve behind. =]

Music wrote...
...../Shyly slithers away and goes back to lurking


*Throws a lasso and catches Music as he/she tried to go back to lurk*
There's no escape!:devil:

#2023
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Well from the very faint background noise that is the demo's dialogue that Mike Gamble talks over it sounds like Cortez is worried about Shepard's safety regardless of romance status or not. I'm just hoping there's a bit more to it, indeed hopefully Shepard being reluctant to leave Steve behind would be great. Also Steve seems to talk to Shep through the comm while exploring below the ocean so maybe we'll get more lines yes xD? I hope anyway.

*gets lassoed* o.x; *falls over* oof. He shall escape! Although being trapped with Cortez isn't terrible...hmm. I may have to rethink this.

#2024
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I didn't watch the gameplay video past Steve's dialogue wheel so I really don't know what happens after that. I want to save it till I play it myself. ;)

Trapped with Steve? O.o
Well, I guess you both will have fun if you're not both tied. :whistle:

#2025
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xD Ah you didn't miss much. Indeed I don't want to spoil myself either. (It never works, I always end up spoiling everything haha.)

Well...you did lasso me in the Steve Cortez thread so...I mean technically I'd be trapped with Steve.

XD I would but then my Shepard would murder me. He doesn't like sharing Steve.