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Yana Montana wrote...

What do you, guys, think is Traynor's origin? She is very dark-skinned, but her surname is very British. South-Asian roots on her mother's side?


East Indian would be my guess.  She reminds me a great deal of Parminder Nagra, (a British born Indian actress), not just in looks, but also somewhat in her personality.

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themikefest wrote...

ec dlc with femshep and sam enjoy

5 weeks after reapers are destroyed shep looks at sam
shep: sam I've been here for weeks and you won't tell me where were at or anything even worse you ignore my advancements. Do you not want me anymore?
sam: lisa I want nothing more than to have my way with you but as I keep telling you not in your condition.
shep: that all you've been saying and its waring thin on my patience.
sam: OK. I will tell you but its going to be very emothional for you and you will need this.(hands shep a box of tissues)
sam takes sheps hand and leads her upstairs to the roof where shep starts to take in what has happened. She realizes its London seeing big ben. At the same time sees the aftermath of what the reapers have done, and seeing alot of reaper corpses. she sees people slowly trying to cean up and start again. A wave of tears overcomes her. she turns around and cries on sams shouledrs for few minutes.She finally gathers herself.
sam: this is only London.By reports nearly 94% of major cities have the same result. According to the alliance earth lost nearly 40% of its popoulation and expected to climb. The way one person said it was that if there 100 organics in the galaxy 70% is gone. Thessia took the worst with approx, 90% gone.( shep sits down and cries for nearly 10 minutes)
shep: what about the normandy?
sam To my understanding all crew are accounted for.
shep: You were not with them.
sam No. I left the ship with Dr.Chadwas in the shuttle to rescue you.
shep: I don't understand?
sam: Hackett called a full retreat of all fleets to nearest relay after nothing was happening with the crucible. When joker went to pick up your squadmates I rushed to the shuttle with a few weapons and a suit of armor with Dr. Chadwas in tow.The cargo door opened and left the mormandy.After the normandy left I looked around for you.I looked up and saw a flash of red in the sky. As I was head ing towards the citadel I saw giant explosions and started crying thinking you were gone.I made it up there and after a few minutes found you. I carried you back to the shuttle. I turned around and saw another body further away. It was anderson. We took the shuttle back to London where DR. Chadwas worked on you and anderson.
shep:(lisa was crying and than took sam and kissed her)
sam: we kept you under for 5 days so that your body can heal itself. Anderson is still recovering  and he's doing well. Also only me and Dr. Chadwas know you are alive.
shep: why? is it because of my condition or is it more to it.
sam:lisa it was my call not let anyone know because I wanted to let you rest and fully recover.
shep:Your my hero sam,willing to give up your life like that.
sam:You are my future lisa plus it gave me chance to where this armor.
shep what does BAG mean that you have on the chestplate
sam: (smiling) bad a** geek ( shep laughing and crying at the sametime)
shep: now about this condition I have?
sam: am surprised you haven't figured it out yet. Think about lisa, sickness in the morning, eating more than usual,feeling tired alot(shep still looking confused) .Remember after the thessia mission what we did?(sheps eyes popped wide open with abig smile)
shep:you mean am pregnant(sam smiling and nodding) when did you find out.
sam: a few hours after you left for earth. that's not the only thing(handed shep 2 pics from ultrasound) these were given to me 2 days ago
shep:(with tears of joy) why 2 pics? twins?(sam nodding)
sam: lisa would you stand up for me(shep stands up while sam gets on one knee) lisa shepard will you marry me?
shep( looks down with tears at sam and the huge diamond ring) you bet your a** I do
sam: I picked out a house with a white picket fence with 6 bedrooms on 10 acres on the west coast of Vancouver island if that will work for you(shep still trying to compose herself)enough of that. Didn't you say that you had needs to be satisfied?
shep:yes I do
sam (opens the door and shep sees shaving cream and a razor, a can of whipped cream and a costume)what do you think?
shep: you are asick, twisted, pervert and I can't believe am marrying you.(smiling)
sam:remember you make blush but I make you sing. By the way the costume is of little red riding hood.

5months later at there house you see anderson walking shepard down the isle with all the crew of the normandy onhand as well as the media from the galaxy.


20 yrs later with sam and shep in the backyard
shep:well sam since you're carring twins we are going to think of names for them
sam: well lets see the twins we have lisa and sam, then there is ashley,liara,miranda,gabby,and karin
shep: tali and samara would work.
sam: lisa do you have any regrets?
shep:(smiling) yes, 2 of them first is when I first met you I had to contain mysel ffrom throwing you on the bed and second with all the things we did to each other I had to buy a book to keep up with you(laughing)
sam:(laughing) like I said you make me blush and I make you sing. Well anyways heres to 20 yrs and for 20 more
shep: yhank you sam for giving me the life I thought was not possible. I love you(sam grabs shep for long kiss)

hope you enjoy I know its a little long


it is long but it is good :whistle:

Modifié par draken-heart, 01 mai 2012 - 11:06 .


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Isn't it time to update the OP again?

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Yana Montana wrote...

What do you, guys, think is Traynor's origin? She is very dark-skinned, but her surname is very British. South-Asian roots on her mother's side?


I'd say she's probably from all over the place.  When creating ManShep (ew) BioWare said that they wanted a model that seemed very multi-cultural because of the nature of the human race.  Our genes are becoming more and more intertwined where it will be harder and harder to distinguish where a person is from due to looks or features.

I think that southeastern Asia isn't a bad guess, though.  Maybe Singaporean.

In reference to what I said above, it's also what makes FemShep so special.  Red hair is a highly recessive gene that is already on it's way to extinction in our time.  Green eyes are also recessive, as far as I know.  In her day and age, those would be features that're very hard to find.  I'm so glad the "official" FemShep looks just like my real FemShep lol

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I think she's Indian (India Indian).

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Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

Yana Montana wrote...

What do you, guys, think is Traynor's origin? She is very dark-skinned, but her surname is very British. South-Asian roots on her mother's side?


East Indian would be my guess.  She reminds me a great deal of Parminder Nagra, (a British born Indian actress), not just in looks, but also somewhat in her personality.

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EDIT: Beating those damn parentheses into submission.



Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees the resemblance - physically and vocally.  ^_^

Heck, if they ever did a live-action tie-in (maybe just a short or something), Ms. Nagra would be the perfect candidate to portray Traynor.

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Richard 060 wrote...
Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees the resemblance - physically and vocally.  ^_^

Heck, if they ever did a live-action tie-in (maybe just a short or something), Ms. Nagra would be the perfect candidate to portray Traynor.


I know how you feel.  I thought I was the only one and then wondered just HOW insane I really am.  Now I know it's not as much as previously pondered. 
 :P

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Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

Richard 060 wrote...
Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees the resemblance - physically and vocally.  ^_^

Heck, if they ever did a live-action tie-in (maybe just a short or something), Ms. Nagra would be the perfect candidate to portray Traynor.


I know how you feel.  I thought I was the only one and then wondered just HOW insane I really am.  Now I know it's not as much as previously pondered. 
 :P


Err, don't think you're out of the wood just yet - I'm a certified headcase.

Need a second opinion? Just ask any one of my collection of singing potatoes...

 =]

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Richard 060 wrote...

Err, don't think you're out of the wood just yet - I'm a certified headcase.

Need a second opinion? Just ask any one of my collection of singing potatoes...

 =]


My cat is telling me you've gone 'round the bend.

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glad you liked it draken-heart and thanks for the compliment

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shep:sam whats so funny?
sam:Lt. Alenko asked me if you were interested in him and I told him that he didn't have the eguipment to satisfy you. He gave me that "what the f**k look".
shep(falls over laughing)

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^ lol

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Hi guys! I just took a hot shower with my comm officer.
Don't believe me? look!
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Jampe81 wrote...

Hi guys! I just took a hot shower with my comm officer.
Don't believe me? look!
[picture]


This picture makes me wonder how much of a black sheep that I am since I actually use the default Shepard look.  In all honesty, she looks just like my Shepard anyway, so I just stuck with it lol

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In reference to what I said above, it's also what makes FemShep so special.  Red hair is a highly recessive gene that is already on it's way to extinction in our time.  Green eyes are also recessive, as far as I know.  In her day and age, those would be features that're very hard to find.  I'm so glad the "official" FemShep looks just like my real FemShep lol


*boggles*

A recessive gene can be carried even when not expressed. A recessive gene can be passed along through successive generations where it isn't expressed. The only way red heads would go extinct would be if some evil red haired hating space aliens came down and zapped everyone (including unborn babies) who carried a red gene, right? (In other words, only if everyone carrying the red hair gene died out without reproducing.)

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hey all, anyone wonder when Sam realized she was lesbian? after all, even though there is a genetic component in sexual orientation development, there is also an environmental influence in it. (there was a study where, in identical twin boys, one ended up being gay the other was straight. the gay one loved helping out in the kitchen, and the straight one played sports)

my guess, while she was going to university.

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Jampe81: sam looks shy in that picture

also i cannot decide between Kelly&Sam:
  • Sam has a meaningful working romance with Shepard, and the Zaeed-like exchanges work better with a romanced Sam. on the other hand Sam gets crash landed, yet i heard that the crew does get rescued in the EC.
  • Kelly is the exact opposite. you do not get to see her all  the time unless you spend most of your time on the Citadel. but her romance feels more real for a person in the Military.
asked this before on another thread but did not get alot of answers

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anyone want to throw their opinion on when Samantha may have realized she is a lesbian or helping me with my Kelly/Sam dilemma?

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draken-heart wrote...

hey all, anyone wonder when Sam realized she was lesbian? after all, even though there is a genetic component in sexual orientation development, there is also an environmental influence in it. (there was a study where, in identical twin boys, one ended up being gay the other was straight. the gay one loved helping out in the kitchen, and the straight one played sports)

my guess, while she was going to university.


It largely depends on the person. I know some people who knew since they were very young children. I know others who didn't know until after years of marriage (to opposite sex partners).

Sam probably knew from an early age, and probably came out during high school. The reason why I think this is that she seems quite comfortable and established in her sexuality.

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its also possible that she may of had some bad experience with males that turned her to females

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Zandilar wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

hey all, anyone wonder when Sam realized she was lesbian? after all, even though there is a genetic component in sexual orientation development, there is also an environmental influence in it. (there was a study where, in identical twin boys, one ended up being gay the other was straight. the gay one loved helping out in the kitchen, and the straight one played sports)

my guess, while she was going to university.


It largely depends on the person. I know some people who knew since they were very young children. I know others who didn't know until after years of marriage (to opposite sex partners).

Sam probably knew from an early age, and probably came out during high school. The reason why I think this is that she seems quite comfortable and established in her sexuality.


Shepard: you expect me to believe that you've known that you're gay since you were 11?
Traynor: uhh, yeah
Shepard: *laughs* yeah right, i didn't even know till i kissed my first girl at (insert age here, for Katelynn, it was her wife Emily when she 15 years old)
Traynor: do not believe me ask my parents
Shepard: sorry, i just had a hard time believing you there, but i am sensible now, aaand... *Kisses Samantha passionately*

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Zandilar wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...
In reference to what I said above, it's also what makes FemShep so special.  Red hair is a highly recessive gene that is already on it's way to extinction in our time.  Green eyes are also recessive, as far as I know.  In her day and age, those would be features that're very hard to find.  I'm so glad the "official" FemShep looks just like my real FemShep lol


*boggles*

A recessive gene can be carried even when not expressed. A recessive gene can be passed along through successive generations where it isn't expressed. The only way red heads would go extinct would be if some evil red haired hating space aliens came down and zapped everyone (including unborn babies) who carried a red gene, right? (In other words, only if everyone carrying the red hair gene died out without reproducing.)


From my understanding, the gene is there, but it will become increasingly rare as time progresses.  The more and more people with dominant traits reproduce with those with recessive traits, the further buried the gene will become.  In all actuality, genetics are almost a purely mathematical situation.  Someone could have a 1 out of 1,000,000,000,000 chance of having red hair and still get it.

I believe I read a paper or article about a scientist who claims that it will be "mathematically" extinct in the future.  Blue eyes were also mentioned, but I've seen articles that say blue eyes aren't as recessive as we all once believed. I'm also no expert on the matter, so everything I just said could be complete bollocks.

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Jampe81: sam looks shy in that picture

also i cannot decide between Kelly&Sam:

  • Sam has a meaningful working romance with Shepard, and the Zaeed-like exchanges work better with a romanced Sam. on the other hand Sam gets crash landed, yet i heard that the crew does get rescued in the EC.
  • Kelly is the exact opposite. you do not get to see her all  the time unless you spend most of your time on the Citadel. but her romance feels more real for a person in the Military.
asked this before on another thread but did not get alot of answers


I definitely prefer Sam.  I think it depends on how you view the romance with Sam as to whether or not it's "true to the military."  There aren't many scenes that take place outside of Shepard's private quarters.  Sam is also Shepard's yeoman and comm officer, so it makes sense for her to frequently take a private audience with the commander in her quarters.  It reminds a little about the affair between Dave and Lisa from the mid to late '90s show News Radio.  There's always that "they could be doing it in the office" thought, but no one really knows until they get caught.

As for Kelly, I just didn't think she felt real enough.  It seemed like she was putting on a show for Shepard, and understandly so, but it takes away from the possibility of a real relationship.  Sam never seemed to have an issue saying "I was to slaughter people from Cerberus" during some of her weaker moments.  I never got that vibe from Kelly.

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Flyers215 wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Jampe81: sam looks shy in that picture

also i cannot decide between Kelly&Sam:

  • Sam has a meaningful working romance with Shepard, and the Zaeed-like exchanges work better with a romanced Sam. on the other hand Sam gets crash landed, yet i heard that the crew does get rescued in the EC.
  • Kelly is the exact opposite. you do not get to see her all  the time unless you spend most of your time on the Citadel. but her romance feels more real for a person in the Military.
asked this before on another thread but did not get alot of answers


I definitely prefer Sam.  I think it depends on how you view the romance with Sam as to whether or not it's "true to the military."  There aren't many scenes that take place outside of Shepard's private quarters.  Sam is also Shepard's yeoman and comm officer, so it makes sense for her to frequently take a private audience with the commander in her quarters.  It reminds a little about the affair between Dave and Lisa from the mid to late '90s show News Radio.  There's always that "they could be doing it in the office" thought, but no one really knows until they get caught.

As for Kelly, I just didn't think she felt real enough.  It seemed like she was putting on a show for Shepard, and understandly so, but it takes away from the possibility of a real relationship.  Sam never seemed to have an issue saying "I was to slaughter people from Cerberus" during some of her weaker moments.  I never got that vibe from Kelly.


i also think that until you decide to continue it (if you do) the both Shepard and Kelly treat the "romance" in ME2 as friends-with-benefits. That feeling from ME2 is what originally turned me off from Kelly, but the fact that she would be there for Katelynn after the game is what kind of got me back interested in "continuing" the romance w/her and confused me with talk of Sam and crew being rescued in the EC.

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Richard 060 wrote...

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

Yana Montana wrote...

What do you, guys, think is Traynor's origin? She is very dark-skinned, but her surname is very British. South-Asian roots on her mother's side?


East Indian would be my guess.  She reminds me a great deal of Parminder Nagra, (a British born Indian actress), not just in looks, but also somewhat in her personality.

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EDIT: Beating those damn parentheses into submission.



Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees the resemblance - physically and vocally.  ^_^

Heck, if they ever did a live-action tie-in (maybe just a short or something), Ms. Nagra would be the perfect candidate to portray Traynor.


I think Ms. Nagra is a great choice to play Traynor. 


If she doesn't work out, I'd like to throw Reshma Shetty's name ( www.imdb.com/name/nm2439805/ ) - from "Royal Pains" - into the hat.  Very easy on the eyes, has an accent.  Though she doesn't have the "geek" factor that Ms. Nagra has imho.

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