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dialogue between Samantha and Javik a few weeks into her secret:

Javik: comm specialist, you look ill
Samantha: i noticed, just morning sickness
Javik: ...
Samantha: oh um, i guess that needs explaining. you see, science has gotten to the point where i can be with Shepard and she and i do not need a male to have children
Javik: i see, so you are with child (yep, that is right, samantha used tech to get preggers with hers and Shep's baby)
Samantha: uh...yes but how did you kn-?
Javik: your pheromones told me, then you confirmed it
Samantha: riiight. anyways, just do not let Shepard know. she will freak if she finds out i went behind her back to have a ch-
Shepard: have a what?
Samantha: N-nothing, i-i need to get back to work

Modifié par draken-heart, 05 mai 2012 - 12:38 .


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hey draken-heart did sam take dna from shep without her knowing?

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Mike, Chakwas helped out abit, but i can say she did get Shepard's DNA, just did not tell anyone why she needed it.

Also:

*in Shepard's Quarters*
Shepard: Samantha, i spoke to Liara and she told me something interesting...
Samantha: look, i know what it looks like but i-i had to, what if you died or-or y-
*Shepard kisses Samantha*
Shepard: i do not care, we are going to be mothers soon.
Samantha: you...you do not care that i lied to get your DNA?
Shepard: i am a little upset at that, but not really
Samantha: Sure you can handle parenthood?
Shepard: i am willing to try
*Shepard and Samantha kiss as they fall onto the bed* 

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SilentK, can Corvidae make a picture of pregnant Samantha?

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SilentK wrote...

Also had no idea that there were people who where irritated at the fact that the FemShep/Traynor romance starts with the shower. Hmm... that was actually one thing that I liked, that it was so playfull and fast, just a happy feeling. Somehow it suited my Robin perfectly. Pretty much thought that she would end up single forever after being dumped by Jacob. She didn't click with Liara, and Kaidan was just to serious for her. Sam's just joyful attitude won her over when she really didn't think that she would ever find someone again. And it ended up being just... perfect  =)


I actually don't understand how anyone can not see the problem with it.

It's gratuitous, it comes completely out of the blue. It is full of bad animations. And none of the other romances start with such a blatantly sexual situation. Most of them wait until the romance has developed a bit before hopping into bed together. (And you don't ever actually get to play chess with her, if you choose to join her. *pout*)

It's the only human/human lesbian relationship in the game, and it gets treated as cheap titilation at the start. (Not to mention that it overall gets treated as second class when compared to M!Shepard/Kaiden or (a fairer comparison) M!Shepard/Cortez.)

Having said all that, there were ways they could have done that scene that wouldn't have annoyed me. Nudity, sex, and water together in one delicious place don't irritate me. They could have moved it to later in the romance and I'd have been happy.

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I don't particularly have a problem with the scene for the most part. It's not an uncommon practice for lesbians to hop in the sack right off and then get into a relationship after that. I mean, all those U-Haul punch lines can't be wrong. (I speak with some experience on this, since I originally identified as a lesbian before figuring out I was transgendered and now identify as male... just for the useless personal info tossed in to vet myself.)

I will say that it could have been done better as far as animations and stuff go. And seriously... who gets in a gorram shower fully dressed?

I much prefer Sam's romance to mShep/Cortez one. That romance arc feels so slimy because Cortez is still mourning his husband, FFS.

EDIT: Clarity on my personal bidness.  :devil:

Modifié par Valorefane Dragonwinter, 05 mai 2012 - 11:58 .


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I'll start working on a scene to write. I think I've got a good idea, so I'll post it when I'm done.

As for the shower scene, I liked it, but it was very spur of the moment. I would have preferred a deeper relationship for doing the no pants dance, but it made sense given the circumstances.

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Just for the record, Sam is awesome. I don’t even care for the romance, she’s just a great character.

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draken-heart wrote...

question, who WOULD wear the dress at the wedding: Samantha or Shepard

i said Samantha because in my head Shepard is an officer so she would need to look professional, thus wear dress blues as her "tux"

CALLENGE: all artists i would like to See Samantha in a wedding dress


I understand what you mean by wearing her uniform, being military and all.  But I'd prefer my Shepard to be wearing a wedding dress as well.  She deserves to let her hair down and be girly from time to time.  


Kasumi will be her maid of honor.  (Just think about the bachelorette party Kasumi would throw).

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Zandilar wrote...

I actually don't understand how anyone can not see the problem with it.

It's gratuitous, it comes completely out of the blue. It is full of bad animations. And none of the other romances start with such a blatantly sexual situation. Most of them wait until the romance has developed a bit before hopping into bed together. (And you don't ever actually get to play chess with her, if you choose to join her. *pout*)

It's the only human/human lesbian relationship in the game, and it gets treated as cheap titilation at the start. (Not to mention that it overall gets treated as second class when compared to M!Shepard/Kaiden or (a fairer comparison) M!Shepard/Cortez.)

Having said all that, there were ways they could have done that scene that wouldn't have annoyed me. Nudity, sex, and water together in one delicious place don't irritate me. They could have moved it to later in the romance and I'd have been happy.



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Actually really like that there is at least one romance that doesn't follow the usual pattern of Meeting, Courting and Nekkid-times-before boss and that it was a completely different scene from the chess-scene  =).  What I would have expected was that if you chose Sam then you would get the same chess in the sofa scene with some flirty lines and some pre-Earth snuggles. Like if you after Kaidan or Liara on the Citadel. Garrus also I believe. The scene does not change so much, with him taking FemShep's hand while sitting at that table. So if you go for Kaidan you have pretty much the same scene with little difference. If you go after Sam you have a completely different scene. This is replay value for me, and very seldom seen in game, I want more of it( both in romance and general story). That a choice in a romance leeds to a completely new scene and not just different lines in the old scene. And also for once also having a relationship that starts up with snuggles and then grows stronger is also new in ME and made it feel real for me. Slightly too much info but it has happened to me. Simply fun that one romance is different in progress-path. These two things surprised me, I like that.

Completely out of the blue and not a fair amount of time. Well, this game is very different with the romances. Some have a lot of content like Liara and Kaidan and some has considerably less, Jack, Thane and my dear Jacob.
Before my FemShep ended up in the shower she had had plenty of Sam-time.
* Cute little scene right after the first Citadel-visit and nightmare. She had rehearsed her intro, gotten overheard by Liara and FemShep. They talk for a bit in the cabin
* Gotten the Grissom-academy-mission after talking with Traynor, I liked it
* Gotten Jacob's mission collecting the Cerberus-people after talking with Traynor, also a sweet scene

It worked for me, I felt that they had a growing relationship. By the time that my FemShep had done all the scenes above, getting to know Sam better all the time and actually been to been to bed with her once there still hadn't been a single Quarian-sighting so BroShep would be crying into his pillow missing Tali and the one who romanced Jack would already have had his dancing-date on the Citadel and have nothing more than a holo-call on earth to look forward to. The FemShep's who romanced Thane would already have crashlanded on Aria's sofa in their attempt to drown their sorrow in alcohol. And then you still have really sweet banter with Sam in the CIC, she figures out how to find sanctuary, romance-night and a really really good farewell-scene before earth. Sam is present throughout the game. From your first visit in the citadel to going to earth she will have content, standing there everytime out you come out from the warroom after a mission. Kaidan, Ash, Thane, Jack, Miranda, Tali, Jacob are not always present in that way, she is never removed from my FemShep. But that's just how I feel  =)

Also, biggie for me. She is fun. She has fun conversations, teases FemShep and is in general just a upbeat person. As much as I love Kaidan and Liara to bits they are not funny in that way. Haven't encountered someone like that since Alistair, someone happy in all that sorrow. My FemShep was in a pretty dark place after being dumped by Jacob, thought that she would be alone forever but Sam just became the light in her life.

So yes, of course one can complain at things. Could we please get a scene with Sam on someplace else than Normandy. And a little more time for my sunshine on the ship. But also, if one let's the dislike for the shower-scene get in the way of even trying out the Traynor-romance I really believe that you are missing out on a very rewarding experience. The same reasons for someone not liking the scene, nekkid-early and no-chess is also the reason for why I find that scene amusing. Completely new material for romance and not the same old romance progression.

Ha ha    :lol:      sorry for the wall o text here. Of course everyone feels differently. This romance just blew me away. Give it a try, you might just like it.



MugenJustice wrote...

I understand what you mean by
wearing her uniform, being military and all.  But I'd prefer my Shepard
to be wearing a wedding dress as well.  She deserves to let her hair
down and be girly from time to time.  


Kasumi will be her maid of honor.  (Just think about the bachelorette party Kasumi would throw).


Kasumi and bachelorette party. Count me in, would love to see this   :wizard:

Modifié par SilentK, 05 mai 2012 - 09:26 .


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cool pic silentKImage IPBImage IPBImage IPB keep up the good pics

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themikefest wrote...

cool pic silentKImage IPBImage IPBImage IPB keep up the good pics


Who ever has that tumbler makes adorable art, she has a ton of good stuff on it. Hope she will post more with Sam, I can't draw stickfigures unfortunately. Hope there will be more artists making Traynor-art   <3

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i think the quality of the romance is in how you look at it. personally, i think the Samantha/Shepard romance makes more sense for a couple of lesbians in the military. waiting for build-up in my opinion really has no place when you could be killed in your sleep.

anyways, i am beginning to think that if the crew does get rescued(for the pro-ender), Sammie would do all the wedding plans, to make sure Shepard does not mess it up.

also would love to see Kasumi throw a bachlorette party, and  wear a bridesmaid dress :lol:

Modifié par draken-heart, 05 mai 2012 - 03:24 .


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I've done numerous playthroughs as femshep and will always take sam shes funny,smart, firm and has good taste in going after my lisa
with liara shes ok but if i want blue children i'll go buy a box of smurfs
with garrus it will always be friends with alot in common
alenko is like boy trapped in amans body and falls in love with any girl that says a kind word to him maybe he should talk to his hand and assuming i still had cerberus ties
thane was dieing so that wasn't gonna work
jacob nocomment

now at the bachlorette party i would love to see grunt pop out the cake and do a striptease(lol)

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the shower scene with shep lifting sams leg(nice) you could say that shep was"ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

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themikefest wrote...
now at the bachlorette party i would love to see grunt pop out the cake and do a striptease(lol)


LOL, that would be a sight

but still, when it comes to planning things, i doubt Shepard would be able to do so for a wedding.
Battle and
 wedding are completely different

Sam vs Shepard for wedding plans. DISCUSS!

Dialogue:

Samantha: *groans* Shepard, dear i-*sighs* just go spar with Garrus or something
Shepard: dear i-
Samantha: Shepard if you want our wedding to be perfect, let me get it all together
Shepard: but i-fine, but if you need anything you tell me
Samantha: do not worry dear i will be fine

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Imagine if it were Donnelly and Joker who plan the bachelorette party....oh the chaos and debauchery.

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MugenJustice wrote...

Imagine if it were Donnelly and Joker who plan the bachelorette party....oh the chaos and debauchery.


lol, those guys would not be able to throw a bachelorette party if their lives depended on it.

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Finished a little something from last night. I didn't really revise, so I hope it's not in too bad of shape. Enjoy:


The sun was just beginning to rise as its deep orange and purple light shone over the beach and ocean water. The beach was small with a great deal of large stones scattered in the sand, but the sand was pure and white. There was a strange yet pleasing silence to the scene.

The quiet was peaceful and soothing. Surprisingly, there weren't even any birds singing or flying around: no seagulls or pelicans in sight. The only sound was the tranquil repetition of the waves crashing serenely on the beach, the sound of the water racing as far as it could up the sand, and then receding back into the ocean. It was just the type of setting that Valerie Shepard had been looking for.

The red-haired woman sat on the beach silently and she had been there for a few hours now, but she had lost track of the time while her light green eyes stared out at the sunrise. She had woken up in the middle of the night again, so she threw on her Alliance uniform and headed out the door without waking the only other resident of the house. All she knew now was that it had been dark when she had walked down from the beach house to sit by the ocean.

She'd come to the area to take a break from saving the galaxy. After her most recent experience on the Citadel, she needed to get away. She needed to stare blankly out into space and escape the horrors she had seen: the painstaking battle leading up to the Reaper beam, the heavy losses of soldiers and friends along the way, the bodies of her fellow sentients littered across the floors of the Citadel, the concluding moments of her debate with the Illusive Man, one of her oldest friends dying by her side, and then The Catalyst...

She shook her head to push the images out. It was enough that they haunted her dreams and turned them into nightmares, but she didn't want them infecting her conscious realm as well. The terrors and torments of war and the Reaper conflict had finally caught up to the impenetrable, immovable Commander Shepard. That's why she had taken leave after being extracted from the Citadel after all that. That's how she came to be sitting on a beach overlooking a sunrise.

And now her shoes were sitting beside her, her toes were neatly buried in the dry sand, and her back was pressed against a large boulder that formed a natural chair as she sat on the sand. Another large stone just to her right was currently serving as her armrest. A soft breeze started to roll over the beach and caress the woman's face. She almost smiled, but she still wasn't sure that her face muscles remembered how to do that. However, the Alliance Navy commander was oddly comfortable given the circumstances.

The waves continued to come in softly as she thought the same thing that one of her oldest and dearest friends had told her: "it feels like it's been so long since I just sat down." Two weeks by the beach had passed now. Two weeks since the events on the Citadel. Two weeks since... A whole different life time ago. But another thought about the Citadel...

She closed her eyes and leaned her head back craning her neck in an almost uncomfortable position. Her make-shift rock chair only came up to the middle of her back and provided no headrest, but that didn't matter now. She kept her eyes closed when she felt a presence walk up behind her. She didn't bother opening her eyes because she knew who it was. She knew that presence and could never get enough of it.

"Yes, Samantha?" asked the commander in little more than a whisper.

"Couldn't sleep again?" asked the woman from behind her. She had stopped walking and was simply standing a few metres behind the other woman.

"No, but I'm not surprised anymore. It's not like it's uncommon or unexpected," replied Shepard in a tired, lazy voice.

"I know, but - I just..." stammered the woman behind the commander.

"What is it?" Shepard asked with her eyes still closed.

"I wish there was something I could say - something I could do," responded the other woman nervously as if it were her fault that Shepard was struggling.

"All you need to do is be here, Samantha," Shepard said softly. "That's all I need from you. These things take time."

"That can't stop me from wanting to make it all go away, though," said Samantha almost sternly. In her mind's eye, Shepard could see Samantha standing in the beach with her hands on her hips in protest to her inability to help. With that mental image, Shepard finally cracked a smile.

"Come sit with me, Sam," requested Shepard as she turned her head around and opened her eyes.

The daylight had grown stronger, but it was still quite dim while dawn continued through the motions. In the soft light, Shepard saw Samantha looking back at her and standing in the sand with a nice, purple robe made of some silk-like material draped around her shoulders that flapped a little against the light wind.

Samantha walked closer to her partner and sat on the rock on which Shepard was leaning. She put her legs on either side of her and put her hand on Shepard's shoulders. Shepard turned back towards the ocean, leaned her head against Samantha's right knee, and wrapped her right arm around Samantha’s calf.

"This is a beautiful spot, Val," said Samantha after a short silence.

"That it is. I told you Vancouver wasn't so bad," Shepard said jokingly.

"Well, I guess you were right," replied Samantha with a single soft chuckle at the reference. "You can't get this view in Paris. It's a bit warmer there, though."

"I can deal with the cold," said Shepard.

The two fell back into silence to enjoy the quiet of the setting as the sun continued to rise into the sky. Shepard, like many humans in those days, was glad to just see another sunrise. For her, seeing a sunrise on Earth while not aboard a starship was even more outlandish and spectacular than for the other humans on Earth.

As Shepard started to fall back into thoughts of the recent past for the umpteenth time that morning, she was glad that Samantha broke the silence to keep that from happening. She wondered if her better half had sensed it the same way she had sensed her arrival earlier.

"Did you see the new message?" Samantha asked kindly trying not to push Shepard too much.

"Yeah, but I'm not ready yet. Hackett's anxious for me to get back to the real world, but that's just not where I need to be right now," answered the commander pulling her head off its resting position against Samantha's knee.

"I'm not trying to pressure you. I just thought I should bring it up. The admiral really seems to think that you're needed. There's a lot to be done and the world could use a look at its biggest hero," said Samantha softly.

"I don't know what he expects me to do. Should I just stand there and smile as species from all over the galaxy look at me like I know how to get them back home? Or are they going to turn me into the enemy and blame me for what happened?" asked Shepard more rhetorically than anything as she sat up straight. "There's only so much I can do at once."

"I know. Calm down," Samantha said soothingly starting to massage Shepard's shoulders. "I didn't mean to get you riled up. Relax."

"Sorry..." Shepard started before pausing to think. "I just wonder if I'm really harming everyone by sitting out here on a beach while the rest of the galaxy runs around trying to figure out what to do now.” She paused again. “It's going to be a rough road, isn't it, Sam?" Shepard finished turning around to look at her masseuse as if she had all the answers.

"I don't know any more than you do, but I don't think it's going to be easy," said Samantha honestly despite the voice in her head telling her to be optimistic. "But I do think you can help us get through this. You're an amazing leader. Look at all you've already done from the Collectors to driving away the Reapers. You're an incredible woman, Valerie. But like I said before, you'd be a terrible backseat pilot. I don't think you're quite cut out for this selfish stuff. You like being in the middle of it all – in the fray – but someone like you deserves a rest every now and then."

Shepard thought to herself and turned back around to face the ocean. She placed her head back on Samantha's knee and gave it a soft kiss to indicate her appreciation for the words, but Samantha already knew; she always knew.

Was she being selfish? Was she causing the newly freed galaxy a great deal of pain, suffering, and confusion by sitting on her backside in the sand trying not to feel bad about herself? Was it time to act like a true soldier again and meet this challenge head on? Shepard wrestled with these thoughts for a short while before making them vocal.

"Is it time, Sam?" Shepard asked with no indication of the subject. Samantha knew what she meant.

"Are you ready? This is going to be rough trying to get everyone on peaceful terms, fed, and sheltered. The world could use your leadership, but not if you're falling apart from nightmares and visions," answered Samantha plainly. "I know you love being the hardened, rock-solid soldier, Val, but you're still human. And I worry about you."

"And sometimes I wonder if I can keep doing that… or if I did the right thing,” said Shepard lowering her eyes almost shamefully. “Did I do the right thing by getting rid of the Reapers? Is the immediate threat gone while the long-term threat remains?”

“I can’t answer that,” said Samantha in a sad whisper. “Only time will tell, but I know that I’d rather keep living another day than be killed by a Reaper. Everyone on this planet right now owes you for that privilege.”

“I didn’t think I’d be stranding everyone here, though. I thought I’d just be getting rid of the Reapers once and for all. I might have doomed them all to a death of starvation and homesickness,” said Shepard sadly.

“You did better than anyone else could. You made a tough decision, but one that had to be made. I don’t know the details of it all, but I’m sure you made the right decision for everyone,” explained Samantha trying to cheer up Shepard.

“It was very hard, but I hope so,” replied the commander.

“Do you want to talk about it?” asked Samantha patiently. It had been two weeks with no explanation of what had really happened. She had just remained calm and waited for Shepard to tell her, but she was starting to think that she never would.

“I don’t want you to worry about it,” said Shepard truthfully and confirming Samantha’s suspicion. Shepard really didn’t want anyone to have to ever experience what she’d gone through on the Citadel. “I saw a lot of troubling things, but I think it’s time to go back. People are waiting for me; people miss me; people… people need me, Sam.”

“They certainly do, Val, and me most of all,” replied Samantha with a smile. She then ducked her head down and kissed the top of Shepard’s head. “But let’s finish watching this sunrise before we get ready to leave.”

“Copy that,” Shepard said almost as a joke at some distant past life of hers.

Shepard smiled and pulled Samantha’s calf closer. The two of them continued to stare out at the ocean as the light became more yellow and fierce while the day came forward. Samantha continued to massage Shepard’s shoulders as she fell asleep leaning on her leg. She knew that she was tired, so she sat patiently on the beach for her to wake. Until then, she knew she’d just enjoy the view.

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that is great flyers, a little long though.

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draken-heart wrote...

that is great flyers, a little long though.


Thanks.  I knew it was going to be long, but I play for keeps B)

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Hello fellow Samantha lovers!

I don't know if anyone posted them yet but I just wanted to post a story I'm working on with the sweet Specialist and my Shepard, called, "Lasting Impressions." It's going to start with parts from the game and then move to new material.

Chapter One: Revealing Hiccups
Chapter Two: The Call

A little blurb from Chapter Two:

  "It all makes sense now," Shepard leaned back against the railing,
"You can't crack a joke, that's why you stood there watching…"
  "That's not it at all!"
  "Don't worry, Traynor, not everyone can roll with the punches."
  "I can tell jokes too!"
  "Alright then, tell me one."
  Her
mind went blank. She recalled all the jokes she used to overhear in the
lab, some concerning her commanding officer. Yet, as soon as the
pressure was on her, she couldn't remember any of them.
  "Come on, Traynor, take a stab at me. There are dozens of jokes out there that are about me, pick one."
  "I," she rubbed the back of her neck anxiously, "I cannot think of one."
  "Would
you look at that, I left the Oxford-girl stumped," the blonde-haired
soldier grinned from her victory, "So enlighten me, what did your fancy
school teach you? Certainly there was an extracurricular activity you
enjoyed embarking on."

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read them both Rebel666, hilarious, and yet decently romantic.

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Great read, Flyers. Very well done.

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Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

Great read, Flyers. Very well done.


Thank you, miss.  I'm glad you liked it :D