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[Sperizer]

MugenJustice wrote...

I understand what you mean by wearing her uniform, being military and all.  But I'd prefer my Shepard to be wearing a wedding dress as well.  She deserves to let her hair down and be girly from time to time.  

It would definitely have to be a choice, because my femshep would never agree to wear a dress.

[Valorefane Dragonwinter]

Flyers215 wrote...

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
Great read, Flyers. Very well done.

Thank you, miss.  I'm glad you liked it

Mister would be more appropriate, but I'm not gonna quibble over confusing people online when I still manage to confuse them IRL.  

Sperizer wrote...
It would definitely have to be a choice, because my femshep would never agree to wear a dress.

Also, ^this.  Having been in the military, I can't really see that my Femshep would wear one either.  It's just not utilitarian.

Modifié par Valorefane Dragonwinter, 05 mai 2012 - 08:30 .

[themikefest]

nicely done flyers 215
what do you think of a dlc where its just shep and sam on a mission searching for sams parents?

[Flyers215]

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
Great read, Flyers. Very well done.

Thank you, miss.  I'm glad you liked it

Mister would be more appropriate, but I'm not gonna quibble over confusing people online when I still manage to confuse them IRL.  

Apologies.  I saw you said that you identified as a lesbian in the past, so I used miss.

My FemShep would be wearing her military uniform without a doubt.  She's an Alliance soldier to the core.

[Flyers215]

themikefest wrote...

nicely done flyers 215
what do you think of a dlc where its just shep and sam on a mission searching for sams parents?

I'd buy the hell out of that.

[Rebel666]

draken-heart wrote...
read them both Rebel666, hilarious, and yet decently romantic.

Thank you 

[Valorefane Dragonwinter]

Flyers215 wrote...

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
Mister would be more appropriate, but I'm not gonna quibble over confusing people online when I still manage to confuse them IRL.  

Apologies.  I saw you said that you identified as a lesbian in the past, so I used miss.

No worries.  My fault for not being a little more clear.  

Also, you guys and gals are making me wanna write up something of my own. 

Modifié par Valorefane Dragonwinter, 05 mai 2012 - 11:47 .

[Flyers215]

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
Also, you guys and gals are making me wanna write up something of my own. 

That's what happened to me lol.  I stayed up late writing last night because of it.

[Valorefane Dragonwinter]

SilentK wrote...





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Seeing as Femshep is strong to begin with from all the soldiering and now augmented w/ implants of all kinds, I could totally see her doing this.  It's awesome.  

[SilentK]

Samantha Traynor by BlackLion310
Sam always looks smashing

MugenJustice wrote...

Imagine if it were Donnelly and Joker who plan the bachelorette party....oh the chaos and debauchery.

Eeek   ha ha    =)     the Normandy would never ever look the same again. If those two are planning the party I want Gabby to be there as a voice of reason resisting the worst ideas, lol

But we have the poker-table and the bar. They should be able to do something fun with it.



Have started a new FemShep and just got the Grissom-academy-mission from Traynor. I like how just happy and a little nervous she sounds after

FemShep: Traynor, good catch    =)
Traynor: Thank you commander

For me it's really in her voice there, great moment. Can see her starting to have some feelings for FemShep at that point.

[themikefest]

that pic is awesome silentK  high marks

[Flyers215]

Zandilar wrote...

And even if it were "scheduled" to naturally vanish in the next millennia if left to its own devices, we would have well and truly developed the techniques and technology to preserve the gene before that would happen. In the future, people won't dye their hair, they'll have gene therapy. People will decide they want their son or daughter to have red hair, and will design their baby that way.

Red hair, like blonde hair, is with us for the long haul.

From the datapad app:

"In the 22nd century, manipulation of the human genome became commonplace. Techniques of genetic engineering advanced to the point where the rich could custom build fetuses that grew into stronger, smarter, and more attractive adults. In more permissive regions, custom-designed life-forms and 'uplifted' animals occupied an ill-defined niche between 'property' and 'sapient being.' "

The more you know.

I found that stuff kind of interesting. There is also a very short list of what is legal and what is not. I found it interesting that it is illegal to add new abilities to humans is outlawed. The examples of "adding a tail" and "the ability to digest cellulose" are listed as being illegal. Also, "some genetic enhancement is provided for free to Alliance military recruits, but the average citizen must pay for the privilege." That seemed a little more in line with something that Cerberus would do.

This is all under Secondary > Humanity and the Systems Alliance > Genetic Engineering for anyone that has the ME3 Datapad app.

Since that has nothing to do with Sam, I'll add that Sam is awesome!

[themikefest]

if there is a ME4 ( I believe there will be) do you think sam will have a bigger role in the game than ME3?

[draken-heart]

not surem but if they had comics in ME universe, do you think Samantha would read them? if so, which one would she read

[Flyers215]

themikefest wrote...

if there is a ME4 ( I believe there will be) do you think sam will have a bigger role in the game than ME3?

I don't think there will be a "Mass Effect 4," but I do think that we'll eventually have some type of game (I'm thinking an MMO).  However, I don't think she'd have a bigger role unless the writing team really fell in love with her like we did.  In the grand scheme of things (and sadly), she's a rather minor character.  She played a pivotal role in the end of Cerberus, but everything else was just being cute, adorable, and someone to talk to between missions.

draken-heart wrote...

not surem but if they had comics in ME universe, do you think Samantha would read them? if so, which one would she read

I definitely think she'd read them.  She'd probably read any really geeky ones that dealt with technology or sci-fi.

[Smugglers Luck]

 

Hey Traynor fans. Just thought I should post this.

I find it funny how Traynor was able to find the location to the Illusive Man's "secret" base and Liara, The Shadow Broker, can't.  

[lillitheris]

…Well, she did use a tracker (or got the codes for a tracker, or whatever it was), but still. Traynor’s just very good at what she does. Plus EDI.

Modifié par lillitheris, 06 mai 2012 - 10:50 .

[themikefest]

flyers215 wrote
I don't think there will be a "Mass Effect 4," but I do think that we'll eventually have some type of game (I'm thinking an MMO). However, I don't think she'd have a bigger role unless the writing team really fell in love with her like we did. In the grand scheme of things (and sadly), she's a rather minor character. She played a pivotal role in the end of Cerberus, but everything else was just being cute, adorable, and someone to talk to between missions.

your right with her role being limited. I hope you're wrong for MMO since am not a fan of online playing. now I might be if you could play as sam, that would be interesting

[Flyers215]

themikefest wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

I don't think there will be a "Mass Effect 4," but I do think that we'll eventually have some type of game (I'm thinking an MMO). However, I don't think she'd have a bigger role unless the writing team really fell in love with her like we did. In the grand scheme of things (and sadly), she's a rather minor character. She played a pivotal role in the end of Cerberus, but everything else was just being cute, adorable, and someone to talk to between missions.

your right with her role being limited. I hope you're wrong for MMO since am not a fan of online playing. now I might be if you could play as sam, that would be interesting

I'm not a big fan of MMOs either, but I think Mass Effect could do well with one.  I'm replaying ME2 right now and I walked out on Illium into Nos Astra and thought "it'd be really cool to stand here with someone else."  The skyline is gorgeous and it'd be great to be able to just sit and chat with someone there.  

However, I think they could really ruin the series with an MMO depending on story and combat especially.  The typical MMO "holy trinity" does not work with this franchise.  I would hope that they'd do away with it.  Also, SW:TOR, also made by BioWare for those who don't know, is very, very, very, very, very, very combat-based.  There is nothing to do other than combat (and RP) in that game, which is quite disappointing.  With the Mass Effect games being so involved with exploring, NPC conversation, and other things to do besides combat, I'd hope that BioWare will/would incorporate that into the game.  In addition, the Mass Effect universe is based on "near future" circumstances.  There's heavy talk of businesses, mercenaries, and sales, so I would want the game to have a healthy economy and resources to make that happen.

The stunning graphics are also something else that I love about the series.  I hope that they would make the game more for higher end machines then SW:TOR, which is supposed to be accessible to everyone.  I don't have a good computer at all (I'm running SW:TOR on the lowest settings possible), but I'd be willing to fork over the money for such a game.

Either way, I'd hope that Traynor plays a significant role in any future Mass Effect content whether it's a book, a comic, a short story, a picture, or a new game lol

[chevyguy87]

Don't know what it is but I am such a sucker for a woman with an accent.

[themikefest]

I agree flyers215 it would be interesting how much more popular sam would be if she was a romance option for manshep and not just femshep

[Valorefane Dragonwinter]

chevyguy87 wrote...

Don't know what it is but I am such a sucker for a woman with an accent.

OMG yes.  *drools*

Seriously...  a woman with a British accent can read the phone book and I'll think it's sexy.  I was stationed in Iraq w/ some Brits and I'd just sit out and talk to these two British girls for HOURS.  It was 130 degrees and I did not care. 

[Valorefane Dragonwinter]

From http://blog.bioware....-mass-effect-3/


Same-sex romances have been part of previous BioWare games, but until now, these romance-option characters could be attracted to a player character of either gender. Mass Effect 3 characters Samatha Traynor and Steve Cortez represent the first time BioWare has written full romances that are exclusively for same-sex characters. Patrick Weekes and Dusty Everman wrote these relationships and talk about their experiences here.

What past relationship writing have you done?

Patrick Weekes: On Mass Effect 2, I had the chance to write the Tali and Garrus romances, and to contribute to Miranda’s romance as well. In Lair of the Shadow Broker, I handled the Liara arc, from her initial coldness to her reconciliation and the post-mission talk in the Normandy cabin.

Dusty Everman: Though I am primarily a level designer, I got the opportunity to write for Mass Effect 2 under some
excellent old-school-BioWare mentorship. I wrote the Normandy’s “light” characters, including Yeoman Kelly Chambers. While she had a much smaller scope than any full squad member, her character could be a light, flirty romance for Shepard.

PW: Dusty is being a little too modest. He’s the reason we even have Donnelly, Daniels, Gardner, and legendary Serrice Ice connoisseur, Dr. Chakwas, in addition to Kelly.

How did you approach writing a gay character in Mass Effect 3?

PW: Liara’s relationship in Lair of the Shadow Broker can be with players of either gender, so I was familiar with writing dialog that needed to work for a same-sex romance. Nevertheless, I’m a straight white male – pretty much the living embodiment of the Patriarchy – and I really wanted to avoid writing something that people saw and went, “That’s a straight guy writing lesbians for other straight guys to look at.”

I also really wanted the romance with Traynor to be positive. One of my gay friends has this kind of sad hobby in which she watches every lesbian movie she can find, trying to find ones that actually end up with the women not either dying or breaking up. I think the most positive one she’s found is “D.E.B.S.” I wanted to avoid any kind of tragic heartbreak, to make this a fundamentally life-affirming relationship… at least, as much as possible within Mass Effect 3′s grim war story.

DE: I shared the concerns Patrick had about writing something that felt real. I’ve never been romantic with another guy, so I couldn’t write from personal experience. Also, there seemed to be extra pitfalls associated with a male same-sex romance. Some players have concerns over being “ninja romanced” – where a relationship shifts from friendly to romantic to the player’s surprise – and those concerns seem greater for same-sex romances.

PW: I remember hearing someone complain about getting “ambushed” by the same-sex romance with Sky in Jade Empire. Really, though, if you gay-romanced Sky, I’m pretty sure you did it on purpose. You had to dig for that one.

DE: I wanted to make sure that my writing fit into the Mass Effect universe and supported the themes of Mass Effect 3. Keeping Cortez grounded and focusing on the journey shared with Shepard is a foundation that I hope leads to a real attraction.

PW: I worked hard to create a character who addressed her lesbian identity in a positive and intelligent way. My
first draft of Traynor’s pitch was all about how her character arc would be about identifying and overcoming the challenges of being gay… and my friends and managers called me on it. I’d been so focused on writing something positive that I hadn’t made a real-enough character. So in the next draft (closer to how she shipped), the focus was on her as a mostly lighthearted fish out of water, a very smart lab tech trying to adjust to life on the front lines, with her identity as a lesbian present but not shouted from the rooftops.

DE: I believe that by the 22nd century, declaring your gender preference will be about as profound as saying, “I like
blondes.” It will just be an accepted part of who we are. So I tried to write a meaningful human relationship that just happens to be between two men.

PW: Yeah. If I’ve done my job right, I’ve made Traynor a character that people in the LGBT community will like not because we happened to put a gay character in the game, but because she’s a great character even if you never romance her.

DE: My approach was to have the majority of the relationship be about building a friendship. Everyone, straight and gay alike, can get to know the character, and romantic feelings only surface towards the end of the arc. Like I said before, I wanted to support the ME3 theme of a massive war, where everyone is dealing with loss.  Normally, I don’t like stories about prior lost loves, but here it makes sense. When Cortez says “I lost my husband”, every player knows his sexuality, so precious word budgets aren’t spent to establish that fact.  Instead, the time is spent bonding over past losses and future hopes.

How do you feel your relationship turned out?

PW: I’m fortunate to have gay and lesbian friends at BioWare who were willing to take a look at Traynor for me and help me edit a few bad lines that played into negative stereotypes. As for the fans, the reaction has been very positive so far – I think the nicest thing I’ve heard was, “I think I’ve actually had that conversation in real life.”
The largest concern I’ve heard in feedback about Traynor is that people want more conversations with her – which I think holds true for just about every romance in the game. 

Traynor’s shower scene has also raised some eyebrows. I liked it, but for a while we were on the fence about whether to have that scene or just do a fade to black as Shepard stood up. We put it in because this scene was Traynor’s biggest romance moment from a cinematic perspective (her endgame love scene is very short and simple), and I didn’t want to say, “Romancing Ash? You get a big cutscene. Romancing Traynor? Fade to black.” And also because I think it’s a lovely, funny scene from Guillherme Ramos (who also brought you the Liara cabin scene in Lair of the Shadow Broker).

DE: Though I was a bit out of my element here, I’m very happy with how Cortez turned out. Given the nature of the relationship, I expected that my work here would be scrutinized more than anything I’ve ever done, so not one word was written lightly. The early feedback I’ve seen has been encouraging, and I’m eager to hear everything players have to say about him, both positive and negative.

Is there anything else you’d like to say?

PW: I’m really proud of Traynor’s relationship. I think that it came together really well — the artists did a wonderful job, Alix Wilton Regan did an amazing job voicing her, and the cinematic designers really made her come to life. 

It’s also entirely possible that, writing a same-sex conversation for the first time, I still created something that plays into stereotypes. Everyone I showed the scenes to knows me, and knowing me might have
caused them to give some scenes the benefit of the doubt. That feedback – places where I can improve in writing a character, places where I broke immersion — is what helps me do a better job next time I’m writing a romance character who isn’t a white male game designer.

DE: I’ll echo Patrick: the artists, cinematic designers, and voice actors all did amazing jobs. I love Matthew Del
******’s voice for Cortez, and thought Leo Lucien-Bay, the cinematic designer for the Purgatory dance scene, did a fantastic job with such a challenging scene under immense time constraints. It’s great to see how players are receiving Cortez. I’m taking notes on every bit of a feedback I see.

Modifié par Valorefane Dragonwinter, 07 mai 2012 - 06:33 .

[themikefest]

I say patrick weekes should be promoted to lead writer and its almost sounds like he would love to expand more on sams romance(me4 anyone)

[Flyers215]

That's a great interview (and furthers my desire to work for BioWare as a writer). I like that they care about the characters and that Patrick Weekes is listening to the fan feedback. He touched on some of the biggest criticisms of the romance, which makes me feel like the developers care about the characters and universe as much as we do.

I thought Traynor's story was very good. I developed a very nice relationship with her from the minute she stumbled up to my cabin and stammered through an introduction. The first time, I didn't even catch the fact that she liked EDI's voice, so I didn't know she was a lesbian for a long time. I didn't know until [Join her] popped up and I talked to my cousin about how incredible the Traynor romance is and he said "the girl you play chess with? Yeah, that's hot." He plays a ManShep like a loser, so he doesn't know lol