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i don't know, maybe she could be lock out of all but essential systems. i did not think about it at first, so if you want to deal with that mike, go ahead.

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draken-heart wrote...

i don't know, maybe she could be lock out of all but essential systems. i did not think about it at first, so if you want to deal with that mike, go ahead.


the only suggestion I can give would be to have sam and femshep somehow deactivate the robot keeping edi contained within the ship

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that wouldn't happen. Neither Shepard nor Sam would ever do that.

For that matter, EDI and Liara and Joker wouldn't do that either.

But that's just my two cents.

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draken-heart wrote...

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*Sam walks alongside her Girlfriend, Shepard, after noticing a few people looking at them weirdly*

Sam: have you noticed people have been staring at us lately?
Shepard: Yes, Sammie, i have.
Sam: Why are they looking like they never seen a lesbian couple before
Vega: yo, Lola. hey there Checkmate.
Shepard: James do you know why people are staring at Sam and I weirdly today?
Vega: you mean, you ladies did not post the video on the extranet?
Sam: What video?
Vega: well, someone posted a video of you two being...intimate earlier today and...
Shepard: LIARA!!!! YOU BETTER TAKE THAT VIDEO DOWN THIS INSTANCE OR I WILL TEAR YOU APART! THEN THROW THE REST OF YOU OUT THE AIRLOCK!!
*Shepard storms after liara. Samantha follows right after her*


Liara: okay, i got the video off the extranet, but whoever posted it covered their tracks well, i could not find a source.
Shepard: WELL KEEP LOOKING, WHOEVER POSTED IT KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT PRIVACY!!
Sam: Shepard my love, calm down
Shepard: CALM DOWN! YOU SHOULD BE GETTING UPSET! OUR PRIVATE LIFE IS JUST THAT, PRIVATE!!!
Sam: Dear, i am angry, but shouting is not going to help the situation.
Shepard: right, sorry, i just lose my cool when things like this happen.
Sam: it is alright. now, lets get off this ship and go somewhere nice. you could do all sorts of things to me then...
Shepard: Dear i love the way you think...
*Shepard and Sam leave to spend some time together*

The finale-part one is here.

Shepard: Liara, you said you found out who the culprit is for the video.
Liara: Culprits, actually. But yes, i have.
Sam: so who posted it?
Liara: ..., Joker and EDI may have done it as a joke, since it was posted from the bridge from Joker's electonic mail account.
Shepard: WHAT?! I THOUGHT EDI CARED FOR MY PRIVACY!!!
Sam: Shepard, dear. *squeesing Shepard's hand*
Shepard: You are right, sorry.

*Three minutes later*
Joker: huh? oh, hi Sammie, Commander, what's up
Sam: you know very well what's up Lieutenant Moreau. *glaring at Joker*
Joker: but i-what i meanis-oh fine. yes, EDI and i posted that vid of you two onto the extranet.
EDI: it was only meant as a joke, and to help you  two become more of a couple
Shepard: You know what i do to people who mess with me Joker...
Joker: oh [joker's favorite curse word] *Shepard punches Joker in the face, giving him a black eye. then breaks his legs*
Sam: *while walking away* Wasn't that a little excessive, dear?
Shepard: Maybe....

Finale-part 2

Sam: so, what will we do to EDI?
Shepard: I was angry at Joker, but EDI, she made a simple mistake. she recorded us making love.
Sam: what are you talking about?
Shepard: i decided to lock her out of any video and audio recording in our cabin.
Sam: i like the sound of that.*kisses Shepard on the lips*

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Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that wouldn't happen. Neither Shepard nor Sam would ever do that.

For that matter, EDI and Liara and Joker wouldn't do that either.

But that's just my two cents.


maybe not, but still, maybe EDI originally used it to help herself out an joker saw an decided to help Shepard loosen up.

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*in the life support room of Deck 3 of the Normandy*

Sam: glad you could make it Shepard.
Shepard: Please, Sammie, you earned the right to call me Katelynn
Sam: How about Kate, for short? anyways, i have something serious to ask you.
Shepard: what is it?
Sam: *on one knee, showing Shepard the engagement ring* Kate, will you marry me?
Shepard: *wide-eyed* Sam, i just want to know...
Sam: know what?
Shepard: WHEN WERE YOU GOING TO ASK ME?
Sam: oh, that. i was just scared to know what you would say.
Shepard: well, how about you slip that engagement ring on my finger?
*Sam puts the ring on Shepard's finger and kissed her fiance*

Modifié par draken-heart, 12 juin 2012 - 09:14 .


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Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
I'd go for Liara over Kelly, if Traynor was out of the picture.  But I think (fingers crossed here) that Bioware is gonna pull their heads outta their collective arse and fix the ending.  If Shepard lives, he/she will be able to reunite with the LI and have lots of cozy time.

I like the ending and hope that they don't change it.  Shepard died like a true hero and it was time for her story to end.  It'd be nice to reunite with Sam and the gang, but not everything has a happy ending.

I wouldn't have had a problem with Shepard dying if it wasn't for the whole last ten minutes.  Worst. Writing. Ever.  You don't introduce a completely new plot in the last portion of a story, it's just horrible writing.

And there is no way IN HELL that Shepard would've taken what the little Starbrat said without questioning it like s/he did.  That's so out of character, it makes my brain hurt.

That's why I think Bioware has something up their sleeve.  They've never written such utter nonsensical crap before, why would they start now? 


I just finished my second play through and man...  I think there is a lot more going in the end than just what meets the eye.

I'm not completely sure that ideas like IT are right but there are way, way to many plot holes for the "ending" to be taken at face value.

One quick example:

The last scene before the Citadel stuff.  As you are starting your run down to the beam, if you look to the right and behind you, you can see your second team mate.  If you follow him, he gets hit by the Harbingers beam.

Then later during the "on the planet after the crash scene", that same team mate will exit the Normandy...

More is going on then what meets the eye...


Anyways back on the Forum Topic.

The Samantha Romance is hands down the best romance in the Mass Effect Trilogy.  Awesome writing and some true heart was put into it.  Seeing that final goodbye between Samantha and Shepard, wow, brought a tear to my eye.

Now on to write my version of the EC, while we wait for Biowares!

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Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that wouldn't happen. Neither Shepard nor Sam would ever do that.

For that matter, EDI and Liara and Joker wouldn't do that either.

But that's just my two cents.


Have to agree with this as well.
Just can't see it happening.

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Also posted the story I wrote on Tumblr if anyone wanted to take a peek at it there.  No changes as of yet.  :(

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twi323 wrote...

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that wouldn't happen. Neither Shepard nor Sam would ever do that.

For that matter, EDI and Liara and Joker wouldn't do that either.

But that's just my two cents.


Have to agree with this as well.
Just can't see it happening.


i know it was out of Character, but who else would want to mess with Shepard?

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twi323 wrote...

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
I'd go for Liara over Kelly, if Traynor was out of the picture.  But I think (fingers crossed here) that Bioware is gonna pull their heads outta their collective arse and fix the ending.  If Shepard lives, he/she will be able to reunite with the LI and have lots of cozy time.

I like the ending and hope that they don't change it.  Shepard died like a true hero and it was time for her story to end.  It'd be nice to reunite with Sam and the gang, but not everything has a happy ending.

I wouldn't have had a problem with Shepard dying if it wasn't for the whole last ten minutes.  Worst. Writing. Ever.  You don't introduce a completely new plot in the last portion of a story, it's just horrible writing.

And there is no way IN HELL that Shepard would've taken what the little Starbrat said without questioning it like s/he did.  That's so out of character, it makes my brain hurt.

That's why I think Bioware has something up their sleeve.  They've never written such utter nonsensical crap before, why would they start now? 


I just finished my second play through and man...  I think there is a lot more going in the end than just what meets the eye.

I'm not completely sure that ideas like IT are right but there are way, way to many plot holes for the "ending" to be taken at face value.

One quick example:

The last scene before the Citadel stuff.  As you are starting your run down to the beam, if you look to the right and behind you, you can see your second team mate.  If you follow him, he gets hit by the Harbingers beam.

Then later during the "on the planet after the crash scene", that same team mate will exit the Normandy...

More is going on then what meets the eye...


Anyways back on the Forum Topic.

The Samantha Romance is hands down the best romance in the Mass Effect Trilogy.  Awesome writing and some true heart was put into it.  Seeing that final goodbye between Samantha and Shepard, wow, brought a tear to my eye.

Now on to write my version of the EC, while we wait for Biowares!


I,ve played through over 20 x and each time when running to the beam, I run backwards and noticed that my squadmates stay back at where the slop starts.So maybe its one of those wtf.
As you say back to sam. Yes I adore the romance, biggest complaint is when femshep walks to the shower with clothes on, when she could of undress as she s walking to the shower

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Somewhat unrelated, but if you're looking for info on what might be coming up with the EC, check out the tweet section of this page.  Shows that Bioware has had something in the works since before people got mad over the ending.

Although, I guess it's slightly related, since it means MORE SAM!!!!  :o:D

Modifié par Valorefane Dragonwinter, 13 juin 2012 - 06:17 .


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Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
Although, I guess it's slightly related, since it means MORE SAM!!!!  :o:D


Anything with more Sam is awesome and always related.

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Flyers215 wrote...
Anything with more Sam is awesome and always related.


I want a LOVE button for that.  :happy:

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Flyers215 wrote...

Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
Although, I guess it's slightly related, since it means MORE SAM!!!!  :o:D


Anything with more Sam is awesome and always related.


+1

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So, what do you all picture your femSheps doing when it comes to Sam? (i mean personally, not in-game)

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*Sam is looking on Spacebook (The galaxy's premier social networking site) at her last girlfriend's page when Shepard walks in and sees the pictures*

Shepard: Who's that?
Sam: Who? oh her, well she is my last Girlfriend. from oxford
Shepard: how long were you two-
Sam: three weeks. She cheated on me
Shepard: i am sorry.
Sam: do not be. She was my only Girlfriend besides you, so...
Shepard: do not worry, i will be here for you whenever you need me, love.
Sam: thanks, dear. *Shares a kiss with Shepard*

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So, what do you all picture your femSheps doing when it comes to Sam? (i mean personally, not in-game)


I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean why is Valerie with her?

If so, then I'd say because Sam is just awesome.  She's smart, she's talented, she's independent, she's got a good heart, a good sense of humour, and she's quite pretty.  She's pretty much perfect.  On top of all that, she understands Shepard's problems and makes her feel better about all the stress and struggles of being Commander Shepard during the Reaper invasion.  Sam comforts her and is there for her, which is something that my Shepard really needs as she struggles to balance saving as many lives as she can.

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Flyers215 wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

So, what do you all picture your femSheps doing when it comes to Sam? (i mean personally, not in-game)


I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean why is Valerie with her?

If so, then I'd say because Sam is just awesome.  She's smart, she's talented, she's independent, she's got a good heart, a good sense of humour, and she's quite pretty.  She's pretty much perfect.  On top of all that, she understands Shepard's problems and makes her feel better about all the stress and struggles of being Commander Shepard during the Reaper invasion.  Sam comforts her and is there for her, which is something that my Shepard really needs as she struggles to balance saving as many lives as she can.


I mean, personally what does your Shepard do secretely to show that she is interested in Sam, but not wanting Sam to know?

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Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...

Somewhat unrelated, but if you're looking for info on what might be coming up with the EC, check out the tweet section of this page.  Shows that Bioware has had something in the works since before people got mad over the ending.

Although, I guess it's slightly related, since it means MORE SAM!!!!  :o:D



nice find. my eyes still hurt.I would like to know what drugs the writers were on for the ending, so i can have them too.

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Flyers215 wrote...

draken-heart wrote...
So, what do you all picture your femSheps doing when it comes to Sam? (i mean personally, not in-game)


[snip]

If so, then I'd say because Sam is just awesome.  She's smart, she's talented, she's independent, she's got a good heart, a good sense of humour, and she's quite pretty.  She's pretty much perfect.  On top of all that, she understands Shepard's problems and makes her feel better about all the stress and struggles of being Commander Shepard during the Reaper invasion.  Sam comforts her and is there for her, which is something that my Shepard really needs as she struggles to balance saving as many lives as she can.

^this, in a nutshell.  Sam is just gorram perfect. 
I was gonna add some more, but then I realized I'd pretty much repeat (verbatim) what you said, Flyers.  So I'll just leave it at that.

Oh, and there's the accent.  *drools*

Sam is PERFECT. 

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draken-heart wrote...

*Sam is looking on Spacebook (The galaxy's premier social networking site) at her last girlfriend's page when Shepard walks in and sees the pictures*

Shepard: Who's that?
Sam: Who? oh her, well she is my last Girlfriend. from oxford
Shepard: how long were you two-
Sam: three weeks. She cheated on me
Shepard: i am sorry.
Sam: do not be. She was my only Girlfriend besides you, so...
Shepard: do not worry, i will be here for you whenever you need me, love.
Sam: thanks, dear. *Shares a kiss with Shepard*


*Sam and Shepard are at dinner when Samantha's ex-girlfriend finds them*

Sam: YOU!!!!
???: yes, sammie, me.
Sam: I TOLD YOU IT WAS OVER WHEN YOU CHEATED ON ME.
???: I DO NOT CARE I LOVE YOU
Sam: I AM ENGAGED
???: R-really?
Sam: Yes really. to the woman i am having dinner with
???: but, but i-*runs away crying*

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Flyers215 wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

So, what do you all picture your femSheps doing when it comes to Sam? (i mean personally, not in-game)


I'm not sure I understand the question.  Do you mean why is Valerie with her?

If so, then I'd say because Sam is just awesome.  She's smart, she's talented, she's independent, she's got a good heart, a good sense of humour, and she's quite pretty.  She's pretty much perfect.  On top of all that, she understands Shepard's problems and makes her feel better about all the stress and struggles of being Commander Shepard during the Reaper invasion.  Sam comforts her and is there for her, which is something that my Shepard really needs as she struggles to balance saving as many lives as she can.


Completely agree with Flyers.
I'll just add one more thing to the list:

She gives Shepard the hope.  A hope of a life outside the war she's been fighting for the past three years.  A big house, two kids, and a dog...  That is a life worth fighting for in my Shepard's eyes and Samantha is the hope that fuels that fight.

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only sam can say "suck it up princess ". motivation enough for femshep to go kick reaper a**

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okay, new question. Does your Shepard have any Samantha-related secret activities that she did pre-romance? and if so, what were they?