Checkmate! - The Samantha Traynor Discussion Thread [Updated 5/28/12]
#1001
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 07:13
#1002
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 02:22
Sarcastic Tasha wrote...
I can't say that I have much faith in the EC. When I first heard about the indoctrination theory I liked it because it sorted all the plot holes and I thought it was a pretty cool stunt. But that would have only really worked if they'd brought out the EC earlier. Its a pretty crappy idea to release a game with a fake ending then bring out the "real ending" months later once everyone has had plenty of time to slate the game. I just think the game was rushed and they buggered up the end, but hey I'd love to be wrong and be pleasantly surprised by the EC.
even though all these plot holes can be logically explained? yeah, i am still Skeptical myself on IT. i guess sam and Katelynn will never be together, but will choose destroy, just in case...
Modifié par draken-heart, 19 juin 2012 - 02:22 .
#1003
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 08:09
themikefest wrote...
since EC will not change the ending, how about(and hopefully) change liara's face and put sams face as femshep picks red,green or blue.
when femshep is shooting at red pipe she sees liara, joker and anderson, I would hope that bioware changes it to sam,jokerand anderson. I don't believe am asking for too much
#1004
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 09:14
I'm not sure what to expect with the EC... But i'm hoping for more than just a few minor additions...
#1005
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 10:06
twi323 wrote...
i dont think that is to much to ask for Mike, and i agree with you.
I'm not sure what to expect with the EC... But i'm hoping for more than just a few minor additions...
i hope so to Twi, but the IT skeptic/pessimist in me is leaning towards any LI on the Normandy=lost forever.
#1006
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 10:23
#1007
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 11:16
draken-heart wrote...
even though all these plot holes can be logically explained? yeah, i am still Skeptical myself on IT. i guess sam and Katelynn will never be together, but will choose destroy, just in case...
Well IT only sorts the plot holes by pretending they never happened, which I'd be happy to do since I despise starchild. Goddess I didn't like him when he was just a kid (I couldn't have been the only one who laughed when he got sploded at the start). I should have known he was up to no good, there are no kids in ME so him even existing is pretty suspicious now I think about it. But I'm getting off topic and I don't want to get nightmares about starchild, so back to our favourite comm specialist...
Anyone have a favourite Traynor comment?
My personal favourite was the "never thought I'd see a woman under all that amour." I thought it was an apt metaphor. As Miranda says Shepard's "a hero, a bloody icon" and no doubt Traynor saw her that way before she met her. But once she gets to know her she can see that Shepard's a woman with doubts and fears just like everyone else. Shepard doesn't show that side of herself very often, she has to be strong for everyone, to the point of coming across as cold sometimes. But with Traynor she could get out from under the armour and be just a woman instead of an icon for a while.
#1008
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 11:31

I always thought that lil scene when Shep compliments Traynor on her sharp tracking skills was cute, Shep tells her she did good and she's trying to be humble and act like it's not that big of deal, and you know inside she's beaming. Catching Traynor off guard like that was adorable.
Modifié par CrimsonN7, 19 juin 2012 - 11:32 .
#1009
Posté 19 juin 2012 - 11:56
random dialogue about the past
Sam: You found the information then?
Liara: yes, apparently Shepard was more than a wife, she was also going to be a mother...
Sam: what?
Liara: it appears that when Shepard's wife died, she was also with a child.
Sam: oh, i see
Liara: i assumed it was science at work...
Sam: i guess. i should go *leaves*
*in Shepard's Cabin*
Samantha: Katelynn, we need to talk.
Shepard: oh, Traynor, what is wrong?
Samantha: i want to know why did you not tell me about your kid?
Shepard: *sighs* Liara told you then....
Samantha: Yes, just because you mourned Emily, does not mean you are great.
Shepard: of course i am still hurting. i lost not only my wife, but my unborn Child thanks to Cerberus.
Samantha: Kate, we have to-
Shepard: Sam, just go back to your old quarters. just for tonight.
Samantha: *groans* Fine. but we are not done talking about this. *leaves in a huff*
Modifié par draken-heart, 20 juin 2012 - 01:39 .
#1010
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 01:17
CrimsonN7 wrote...
-snip-
I always thought that lil scene when Shep compliments Traynor on her sharp tracking skills was cute, Shep tells her she did good and she's trying to be humble and act like it's not that big of deal, and you know inside she's beaming. Catching Traynor off guard like that was adorable.
i like that too, but i thought Shepard was flirting with her for a minute....
#1011
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 01:35
Sarcastic Tasha wrote...
draken-heart wrote...
even though all these plot holes can be logically explained? yeah, i am still Skeptical myself on IT. i guess sam and Katelynn will never be together, but will choose destroy, just in case...
Well IT only sorts the plot holes by pretending they never happened, which I'd be happy to do since I despise starchild. Goddess I didn't like him when he was just a kid (I couldn't have been the only one who laughed when he got sploded at the start). I should have known he was up to no good, there are no kids in ME so him even existing is pretty suspicious now I think about it. But I'm getting off topic and I don't want to get nightmares about starchild, so back to our favourite comm specialist...
Anyone have a favourite Traynor comment?
My personal favourite was the "never thought I'd see a woman under all that amour." I thought it was an apt metaphor. As Miranda says Shepard's "a hero, a bloody icon" and no doubt Traynor saw her that way before she met her. But once she gets to know her she can see that Shepard's a woman with doubts and fears just like everyone else. Shepard doesn't show that side of herself very often, she has to be strong for everyone, to the point of coming across as cold sometimes. But with Traynor she could get out from under the armour and be just a woman instead of an icon for a while.
favorite comment 'suck it up princess you're in the military"
#1012
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 01:52
draken-heart wrote...
CrimsonN7 wrote...
-snip-
I always thought that lil scene when Shep compliments Traynor on her sharp tracking skills was cute, Shep tells her she did good and she's trying to be humble and act like it's not that big of deal, and you know inside she's beaming. Catching Traynor off guard like that was adorable.
i like that too, but i thought Shepard was flirting with her for a minute....
Hmm I saw it more as her giving Traynor a personal morale boost, although I gotta admit having Traynor onboard the Normandy in ME3 was tricky, she's really cute, her accent is gorg plus I love her quirky personality. For me it was kinda similar to having Jack onboard in ME2, both beautiful women that my Shep had to ignore as my Shep is loyal to Liara.
#1013
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 02:06
draken-heart wrote...
random dialogue about the past
Sam: You found the information then?
Liara: yes, apparently Shepard was more than a wife, she was also going to be a mother...
Sam: what?
Liara: it appears that when Shepard's wife died, she was also with a child.
Sam: oh, i see
Liara: i assumed it was science at work...
Sam: i guess. i should go *leaves*
*in Shepard's Cabin*
Samantha: Katelynn, we need to talk.
Shepard: oh, Traynor, what is wrong?
Samantha: i want to know why did you not tell me about your kid?
Shepard: *sighs* Liara told you then....
Samantha: Yes, just because you mourned Emily, does not mean you are great.
Shepard: of course i am still hurting. i lost not only my wife, but my unborn Child thanks to Cerberus.
Samantha: Kate, we have to-
Shepard: Sam, just go back to your old quarters. just for tonight.
Samantha: *groans* Fine. but we are not done talking about this. *leaves in a huff*
*Sam is walking past Liara's room and overhears Shepard and Liara arguing*
Shepard: T'Soni, you should not have told her
Liara: She deserved to know
Shepard: NO SHE DID NOT!!!
Sam *interrupting*: Katelynn, Calm down
*Shepard goes to leave But Sam gets in her way*
Sam: KATY I-
*Shepard biotically blasts Samantha, Knocking her to the ground a good few feet away*
Sam: OOMPH
Shepard: CONSIDER YOURSELF MY EX-GIRLFRIEND, SAM! *leaves*
Liara: *running to Sam* are you alright
Sam: i think Shepard broke my back
Liara: lets get you to Chakwas.
#1014
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 02:06
sam:sure. But first put on your armour for me so I can test it
shepWhat for? And why did you have it?
sam:well with help from Dr.CHadwas and Engineer Adams, we put in sensors throughout the armour to manage your vital signs and stress factors for when your on a mission. The same for your helmet
shep:(as she is putting on armour)anything else?
sam:yes, there is a camera mounted on both your front and back. And more for me, I put in a separate audio line to me if something comes up. I won't talk to you because it may distract you. Its more for you if want to talk to me for whatever reason.
shep:(smiling)sounds more like you keeping tabs on me.
sam:Is that what you think?
shep:No.(walks over and gives sam a kiss) Am just curious why you did this.
sam: Easy.Not are you looking out for me, but the whole galaxy as well. That is alot of pressure. I thought I would return the favor by looking out for you.
shep:thanks sam that means alot.
sam:Lisa before I give you that back rub,when you go on your next mission check in with Dr.Chadwas first so she can make sure the sensor s work properly
#1015
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 03:29
This one is a tough one. I pretty much adored everything she said and did, but the thing that really SOLD me on Traynor was the farewell before the mission to Earth.Sarcastic Tasha wrote...
Anyone have a favourite Traynor comment?
Specialist Traynor: Thanks for everything. Even if we don't end up with the house with the white picket fence and the two kids. Sorry. Stupid joke.
Femshep: That sounds pretty good to me.
Specialist Traynor: Okay, good, because I wasn't really joking. I want a big house, and a dog, some kind of retriever. I'm thinking two kids, but... are you writing this down?
Femshep: I'll remember.
Specialist Traynor: You damn well better.
Specialist Traynor: Whatever happens... I love you.
Alix Wilton Regan knocked it out of the park with those lines.
*commence feels*
Modifié par Valorefane Dragonwinter, 20 juin 2012 - 03:30 .
#1016
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 06:34
CrimsonN7 wrote...
*snip*
I always thought that lil scene when Shep compliments Traynor on her sharp tracking skills was cute, Shep tells her she did good and she's trying to be humble and act like it's not that big of deal, and you know inside she's beaming. Catching Traynor off guard like that was adorable.
I liked that Traynor was crap at taking a compliment. I think its a British thing, like taking a compliment is too close to boasting or something.
#1017
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 07:35
Sarcastic Tasha wrote...
Anyone have a favourite Traynor comment?
My personal favourite was the "never thought I'd see a woman under all that amour." I thought it was an apt metaphor. As Miranda says Shepard's "a hero, a bloody icon" and no doubt Traynor saw her that way before she met her. But once she gets to know her she can see that Shepard's a woman with doubts and fears just like everyone else. Shepard doesn't show that side of herself very often, she has to be strong for everyone, to the point of coming across as cold sometimes. But with Traynor she could get out from under the armour and be just a woman instead of an icon for a while.
Sam has many great lines, but I would agree with the one you picked. It's very touching - I'd rank it with Garrus' "It'd be an awfully empty galaxy without you..." line as the most romantic lines in the ME games.
Following closely in second place would be their "two kids, a dog, and a house with a white picket fence" conversation.
Rounding out the top three would be when Sam mentions painting "kills" on the side of the galaxy map every time she "analyzes the crap out of some data", FemShep congratulates her on becoming a regular marine. The following ensued:
Traynor: Well, I think you're rubbing off on me.
FemShep: Well, I'm hoping to, anyway...
Traynor: Ha!
Those two can be positively naughty sometimes.
Modifié par MugenJustice, 20 juin 2012 - 07:36 .
#1018
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 04:32
that is nice, perhaps someone can draw Shepard rubbing OFF on Sam, if ya get my meaningMugenJustice wrote...
Sarcastic Tasha wrote...
Anyone have a favourite Traynor comment?
My personal favourite was the "never thought I'd see a woman under all that amour." I thought it was an apt metaphor. As Miranda says Shepard's "a hero, a bloody icon" and no doubt Traynor saw her that way before she met her. But once she gets to know her she can see that Shepard's a woman with doubts and fears just like everyone else. Shepard doesn't show that side of herself very often, she has to be strong for everyone, to the point of coming across as cold sometimes. But with Traynor she could get out from under the armour and be just a woman instead of an icon for a while.
Sam has many great lines, but I would agree with the one you picked. It's very touching - I'd rank it with Garrus' "It'd be an awfully empty galaxy without you..." line as the most romantic lines in the ME games.
Following closely in second place would be their "two kids, a dog, and a house with a white picket fence" conversation.
Rounding out the top three would be when Sam mentions painting "kills" on the side of the galaxy map every time she "analyzes the crap out of some data", FemShep congratulates her on becoming a regular marine. The following ensued:
Traynor: Well, I think you're rubbing off on me.
FemShep: Well, I'm hoping to, anyway...
Traynor: Ha!
Those two can be positively naughty sometimes.(unless it's actually my mind/interpretation that is naughty...lol)
plus did anyone else expect this if the two are in a romance
Traynor: HA! i thought you did that every night since the shower incident.
Modifié par draken-heart, 20 juin 2012 - 04:34 .
#1019
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 04:47
draken-heart wrote...
draken-heart wrote...
random dialogue about the past
Sam: You found the information then?
Liara: yes, apparently Shepard was more than a wife, she was also going to be a mother...
Sam: what?
Liara: it appears that when Shepard's wife died, she was also with a child.
Sam: oh, i see
Liara: i assumed it was science at work...
Sam: i guess. i should go *leaves*
*in Shepard's Cabin*
Samantha: Katelynn, we need to talk.
Shepard: oh, Traynor, what is wrong?
Samantha: i want to know why did you not tell me about your kid?
Shepard: *sighs* Liara told you then....
Samantha: Yes, just because you mourned Emily, does not mean you are great.
Shepard: of course i am still hurting. i lost not only my wife, but my unborn Child thanks to Cerberus.
Samantha: Kate, we have to-
Shepard: Sam, just go back to your old quarters. just for tonight.
Samantha: *groans* Fine. but we are not done talking about this. *leaves in a huff*
*Sam is walking past Liara's room and overhears Shepard and Liara arguing*
Shepard: T'Soni, you should not have told her
Liara: She deserved to know
Shepard: NO SHE DID NOT!!!
Sam *interrupting*: Katelynn, Calm down
*Shepard goes to leave But Sam gets in her way*
Sam: KATY I-
*Shepard biotically blasts Samantha, Knocking her to the ground a good few feet away*
Sam: OOMPH
Shepard: CONSIDER YOURSELF MY EX-GIRLFRIEND, SAM! *leaves*
Liara: *running to Sam* are you alright
Sam: i think Shepard broke my back
Liara: lets get you to Chakwas.
*In the Normandy's Med-bay*
Chakwas: well, your back does not appear broken, but i suggest staying away from Shepard.
Samantha: thanks, but i love her too much to ignore her
Liara: Traynor, you do not know what will happen next time Shepard gets like this
Samantha: all this is just Shepard letting loose about her unborn child being killed along with her waifu
Liara: Sam...
Chakwas: listen to us, let Shepard calm down and talk to her in a civil manner.
Samantha: *groans* fine, i'll let shepard have her space. for now.
#1020
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 07:15
MugenJustice wrote...
Sam has many great lines, but I would agree with the one you picked. It's very touching - I'd rank it with Garrus' "It'd be an awfully empty galaxy without you..." line as the most romantic lines in the ME games.
Following closely in second place would be their "two kids, a dog, and a house with a white picket fence" conversation.
Rounding out the top three would be when Sam mentions painting "kills" on the side of the galaxy map every time she "analyzes the crap out of some data", FemShep congratulates her on becoming a regular marine. The following ensued:
Traynor: Well, I think you're rubbing off on me.
FemShep: Well, I'm hoping to, anyway...
Traynor: Ha!
Those two can be positively naughty sometimes.(unless it's actually my mind/interpretation that is naughty...lol)
Traynor and Shepard did have a lot of funny banter. That one was particularly funny. One of my other favourites was the "flatter me all you like, I'm still not feeding your fish." (not sure if those were her exact words) Although that quote only really makes sense if Kelly fed Shepard's fish in ME2 and it also raises the question of how Traynor knew about that. Unless perhaps Shepard asked if Traynor would feed her fish and she told Shep to bugger off. But now I'm over thinking it so I'll just stop.
Traynor not being very impressed with Vancouver made me laugh too.
Shepard: It's a lovely city.Traynor: You never take me anywhere nice.
#1021
Posté 20 juin 2012 - 10:34
#1022
Posté 21 juin 2012 - 02:47
draken-heart wrote...
draken-heart wrote...
draken-heart wrote...
random dialogue about the past
Sam: You found the information then?
Liara: yes, apparently Shepard was more than a wife, she was also going to be a mother...
Sam: what?
Liara: it appears that when Shepard's wife died, she was also with a child.
Sam: oh, i see
Liara: i assumed it was science at work...
Sam: i guess. i should go *leaves*
*in Shepard's Cabin*
Samantha: Katelynn, we need to talk.
Shepard: oh, Traynor, what is wrong?
Samantha: i want to know why did you not tell me about your kid?
Shepard: *sighs* Liara told you then....
Samantha: Yes, just because you mourned Emily, does not mean you are great.
Shepard: of course i am still hurting. i lost not only my wife, but my unborn Child thanks to Cerberus.
Samantha: Kate, we have to-
Shepard: Sam, just go back to your old quarters. just for tonight.
Samantha: *groans* Fine. but we are not done talking about this. *leaves in a huff*
*Sam is walking past Liara's room and overhears Shepard and Liara arguing*
Shepard: T'Soni, you should not have told her
Liara: She deserved to know
Shepard: NO SHE DID NOT!!!
Sam *interrupting*: Katelynn, Calm down
*Shepard goes to leave But Sam gets in her way*
Sam: KATY I-
*Shepard biotically blasts Samantha, Knocking her to the ground a good few feet away*
Sam: OOMPH
Shepard: CONSIDER YOURSELF MY EX-GIRLFRIEND, SAM! *leaves*
Liara: *running to Sam* are you alright
Sam: i think Shepard broke my back
Liara: lets get you to Chakwas.
*In the Normandy's Med-bay*
Chakwas: well, your back does not appear broken, but i suggest staying away from Shepard.
Samantha: thanks, but i love her too much to ignore her
Liara: Traynor, you do not know what will happen next time Shepard gets like this
Samantha: all this is just Shepard letting loose about her unborn child being killed along with her waifu
Liara: Sam...
Chakwas: listen to us, let Shepard calm down and talk to her in a civil manner.
Samantha: *groans* fine, i'll let shepard have her space. for now.
finale of my "Shepard was a prospective mommy?" dialogue series
*2 days after Sam's back fully healed, in shepard's cabin*
Samantha: Shepard.
Shepard: Sammie, i was wrong to hurt you.
Samantha: i know you do not want to talk about unborn dead child.
Shepard: you just did not know how happy i was to find out that Emily was pregnant. i was scared and told her to stay on the ship.
Samantha: yet Emily convinced you to take her?
Shepard: yes, she said i needed her, and i did.
Samantha: i am sorry about re-opening old wounds.
Shepard: do not be. so *showing sam the necklace she bought for her* wanna be my girlfriend again?
Samantha: *kissing Shepard* yes, i will be your girlfriend again
*the two spend the rest of the night making love*
#1023
Posté 21 juin 2012 - 05:43
Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
I love their flirty banter. There should be more of it.
There really should.
I heard a new (...well, new to me anyway) flirty banter the last time I played. Just so happened to put off the Tuchanka: Bomb mission until after the Citadel coup/locking in the romance and was surprised that their dialogue changed.
Traynor: Being here, watching you...You've shown me what it means to serve in the Alliance.
Shepard: Good. I don't offer my shower to anyone who wouldn't jump on a bomb for me.
Traynor: You have terribly unrealistic standards.
Traynor pretty much said exactly what I was thinking about Shepard at that moment, only in a sexier accent. Made me laugh.
#1024
Posté 21 juin 2012 - 08:56
MugenJustice wrote...
Those two can be positively naughty sometimes.(unless it's actually my mind/interpretation that is naughty...lol)
Yes, I think it is your interpretation that it's "naughty" because I never really got that vibe from Shepard or Sam, but I've mentioned that before in response to some of the fanfic that's been posted on the thread. I was surprised to see all the different interpretations of the relationship from my fellow Sam lovers. I find it interesting, but to each their own.
You could try and find my little fanfic blurb to see what my interpretation of the Shepard-Sam relationship is like
Modifié par Flyers215, 21 juin 2012 - 08:58 .
#1025
Posté 21 juin 2012 - 07:30
wickedgoodreed wrote...
Valorefane Dragonwinter wrote...
I love their flirty banter. There should be more of it.
There really should.
I heard a new (...well, new to me anyway) flirty banter the last time I played. Just so happened to put off the Tuchanka: Bomb mission until after the Citadel coup/locking in the romance and was surprised that their dialogue changed.
Traynor: Being here, watching you...You've shown me what it means to serve in the Alliance.
Shepard: Good. I don't offer my shower to anyone who wouldn't jump on a bomb for me.
Traynor: You have terribly unrealistic standards.
Traynor pretty much said exactly what I was thinking about Shepard at that moment, only in a sexier accent. Made me laugh.
You can put off the Tuchanka Bomb mission until after the Citadel Coup???
Flyers215 wrote...
MugenJustice wrote...
Those two can be positively naughty sometimes.(unless it's actually my mind/interpretation that is naughty...lol)
Yes, I think it is your interpretation that it's "naughty" because I never really got that vibe from Shepard or Sam, but I've mentioned that before in response to some of the fanfic that's been posted on the thread. I was surprised to see all the different interpretations of the relationship from my fellow Sam lovers. I find it interesting, but to each their own.
You could try and find my little fanfic blurb to see what my interpretation of the Shepard-Sam relationship is like
True, I didn't really get that vibe from them either. Then again, they are responsible for the all-too-soon shower scene together, so that interpretation might not be too farfetched. Still, it was a bit of a shock when I heard it. I bursted out laughing.
I agree though, my interpretation of their romance differs from much of the "fan-fic" dialogue that's been posted here.





Retour en haut




