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'You'll get answers to everything'.

That probably isn't the best thing to do.

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One thing I'm curious about. Some sites talk about how "gamers who work hard will get a very satisfying ending" while others say "ME3's ending will make some/all gamers rage". Then it occurred to me that with ME3 coming up, there will be multiple endings depending on who you save, who you left to die, what choices you made before and how it'll all play out in the end. There are some endings that won't be very satisfying while there will be some that fans will be content with.

Isn't it just that some of these endings are for those who don't work hard enough to secure a satisfying outcome? Isn't it more likely that those who run for a 100% completion, do all the sidequests, save as many as possible and muster enough of an army to defeat the Reapers that we'll all get a decent epilogue?

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bboynexus wrote...

'You'll get answers to everything'.

That probably isn't the best thing to do.

Especially since some of those answers are incredibly idiotic

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Khran1505 wrote...

One thing I'm curious about. Some sites talk about how "gamers who work hard will get a very satisfying ending" while others say "ME3's ending will make some/all gamers rage". Then it occurred to me that with ME3 coming up, there will be multiple endings depending on who you save, who you left to die, what choices you made before and how it'll all play out in the end. There are some endings that won't be very satisfying while there will be some that fans will be content with.

Isn't it just that some of these endings are for those who don't work hard enough to secure a satisfying outcome? Isn't it more likely that those who run for a 100% completion, do all the sidequests, save as many as possible and muster enough of an army to defeat the Reapers that we'll all get a decent epilogue?


It sounds like it.  Then again, a lot of the people who will be mad are the people who already read the script, and never really had a good decision backfire on them. 

Best example of that, Army of Two TFD:  You save a woman from a guy who saves you, because it looked like he had her detained to have his way with her.  Turns out, she's a KGB agent sent to kill him, and his wife, who were Russian Defecters.  She basically shoots him, kills his wife, and right before she kills his child, he shoots her.  

Never felt bad for doing the right thing the time until being shown that the repercussion for helping someone out of good nature was destroying someone elses family. 

I'm expecting more disasterous results from ME 3, civiliazations and species destroyed.  Like Fable 3, being a good person and not working your ass off (or patiently waiting until rent accumalated millions).  I don't expect to be hand held to a good ending for being a paragon.  I don't expect people to like me for being a renegade, even sometimes killing someone ends the problem in the long run. 

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I don't mind an ending where the Reapers win, if they write fantastically about the whole 'we are beyond your comprehension' and it's a very valid reason... (Poor example; As if the Reapers fate was tied directly into the fabric of the milky way galaxy itself... or whatever)

I don't mind an ending where we win but at such a cost, we've pretty much only 'secured' the galaxy for the next bunch of sentinent species.

I don't mind an ending where rocks fall, everyone dies. Provided the epilogue is bloody well good.

I will mind an ending where sheploo buggers off into 'dark space oooh, spoookkkyyyyy'.

I will mind an ending where I can't earn my happy ending. And by happy ending I don't care for rainbows and butterflies, just that, maybe y'know, Shep is there with his love on his arm and a mate by his side and the reapers at his feet as the entire galaxy burns infront and behind him. It comes at a cost but it can be prevailed against. Moreso for Paragon Shep because that's the entire damn theme of him in my view; hope and determination.

The 'spoiled' endings provided in this topic, blow... But I have feeling that there's a 90% chance Bioware won't have changed the script anyway. We'll see.

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The game should end with that kid in the ME3 Intro/Demo playing with the space ship figure and we find out that he is Shepard, and all the stuff we just played through was his imagination.

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incinerator950 wrote...

It sounds like it.  Then again, a lot of the people who will be mad are the people who already read the script, and never really had a good decision backfire on them. 

Best example of that, Army of Two TFD:  You save a woman from a guy who saves you, because it looked like he had her detained to have his way with her.  Turns out, she's a KGB agent sent to kill him, and his wife, who were Russian Defecters.  She basically shoots him, kills his wife, and right before she kills his child, he shoots her.  

Never felt bad for doing the right thing the time until being shown that the repercussion for helping someone out of good nature was destroying someone elses family. 

I'm expecting more disasterous results from ME 3, civiliazations and species destroyed.  Like Fable 3, being a good person and not working your ass off (or patiently waiting until rent accumalated millions).  I don't expect to be hand held to a good ending for being a paragon.  I don't expect people to like me for being a renegade, even sometimes killing someone ends the problem in the long run. 


Fair enough, I can see how people will get pissed off about that. Granted, I'm all for a happy ending but only when there's been enough sacrifices and loss along the way to make us appreciate it even more. I don't like the idea of my decisions backfiring on me but then that's reality, some decisions just aren't the right ones and they could always come back to haunt us.

People like to see things reach a satisfying conclusion but they don't want it to be all sunshine and butterflies. When you look back on our own wars, you can say the ones that benefitted today's society ended for the greater good, but there were still an immeasurable amount of losses. With ME3 being a war story, there should be some bad choices biting us in the backside and we have to fight hard to get around them and make up for our mistakes.

Again, I stand by my notion that BioWare have listened to fan feedback and are working around the endings to make them more satisfying. It goes without saying not all of us will be happy but that's fandom for you.

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As long as there is no anti-climax like in War of the Worlds I'm good.

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BSN is going to be angry no matter what, so it's not like it actually matters. Then again, most Mass Effect fans, the non-whiny ones, will probably enjoy it. Which I totally understand, since ME3 is clearly going to be the best thing ever.

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The PLC wrote...

BSN is going to be angry no matter what, so it's not like it actually matters. Then again, most Mass Effect fans, the non-whiny ones, will probably enjoy it. Which I totally understand, since ME3 is clearly going to be the best thing ever.


This, thank you.

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A have a baaad feeling about Tali's face...

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The  leaked endings are bad.. even the best ending is bad IMO. Oh well It cant be as bad as the ****storm the DA2 forums were..

Modifié par Yuqi, 03 février 2012 - 02:54 .


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all I want to know is whether there is post completion game play or not and if the moronic endings from the leak are real

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Khran1505 wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

It sounds like it.  Then again, a lot of the people who will be mad are the people who already read the script, and never really had a good decision backfire on them. 

Best example of that, Army of Two TFD:  You save a woman from a guy who saves you, because it looked like he had her detained to have his way with her.  Turns out, she's a KGB agent sent to kill him, and his wife, who were Russian Defecters.  She basically shoots him, kills his wife, and right before she kills his child, he shoots her.  

Never felt bad for doing the right thing the time until being shown that the repercussion for helping someone out of good nature was destroying someone elses family. 

I'm expecting more disasterous results from ME 3, civiliazations and species destroyed.  Like Fable 3, being a good person and not working your ass off (or patiently waiting until rent accumalated millions).  I don't expect to be hand held to a good ending for being a paragon.  I don't expect people to like me for being a renegade, even sometimes killing someone ends the problem in the long run. 


Fair enough, I can see how people will get pissed off about that. Granted, I'm all for a happy ending but only when there's been enough sacrifices and loss along the way to make us appreciate it even more. I don't like the idea of my decisions backfiring on me but then that's reality, some decisions just aren't the right ones and they could always come back to haunt us.

People like to see things reach a satisfying conclusion but they don't want it to be all sunshine and butterflies. When you look back on our own wars, you can say the ones that benefitted today's society ended for the greater good, but there were still an immeasurable amount of losses. With ME3 being a war story, there should be some bad choices biting us in the backside and we have to fight hard to get around them and make up for our mistakes.

Again, I stand by my notion that BioWare have listened to fan feedback and are working around the endings to make them more satisfying. It goes without saying not all of us will be happy but that's fandom for you.


I never said I was against a happy ending, I will not be displeased by it.  Survival has been one of my top life priorities over happiness, seeing it in a game will be second nature, like Dead Space.

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incinerator950 wrote...

I never said I was against a happy ending, I will not be displeased by it.  Survival has been one of my top life priorities over happiness, seeing it in a game will be second nature, like Dead Space.


I agree, a happy ending is good but in a game with a war story as its driving point, survival should be our main objective.

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Show me the script, damn

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Here you go, something new to spice up this thread: Bioware suggests keeping Mass Effect 3 saves

Modifié par mornegroth, 03 février 2012 - 03:56 .


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[Mass Effect 3 ending will "make some people angry"] is as informative as saying, Mass Effect 3 will be played by humans... mostly... we think.

XD

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mornegroth wrote...

Here you go, something new to spice up this thread: Bioware suggests keeping Mass Effect 3 saves


Mass Effect 4 confirmed.

*groan*

They just can't let it rest.
I mean, I'm already psychologically prepared for ME3 to be the last game. I don't want all that crying in the shower go to waste!

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"No Shepard, you are the reapers."

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roflchoppaz wrote...

mornegroth wrote...

Here you go, something new to spice up this thread: Bioware suggests keeping Mass Effect 3 saves


Mass Effect 4 confirmed.

*groan*

They just can't let it rest.
I mean, I'm already psychologically prepared for ME3 to be the last game. I don't want all that crying in the shower go to waste!


LOL... you sir, are a genius. You made me spill cofee over my desk.

Modifié par Luc0s, 03 février 2012 - 04:08 .


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crimzontearz wrote...

all I want to know is whether there is post completion game play or not and if the moronic endings from the leak are real

The devs have pretty much said that there won't be post-completion play. The DLC will all take place during the campaign, since the ending provides "closure."

And I'm pretty sure those leaked endings are real. Those who read the leaks have said that everything they've seen thus far has matched up to what was in them. :-(

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So i'm the only one who wants to see a ME4 sequal?

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I just want to see every Reaper blown to bits.  If that happens I'll be very happy.

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I just want to see every Reaper blown to bits.  If that happens I'll be very happy.


Even if blowing all reapers to bits, means blowing all mass relays to bits too?


I think I know why some people will be angry with ME3's ending, even though there are multiple endings. Every single ending requires at least some form of sacrifice. Not a single ending goes without some kind of sacrifice. I think some folks here are not willing to sacrifice anything at all. After all, the Paragons didn't have to sacrifice anything so far (okay, the Arrival DLC is the only exception). ME3's ending will be the first time that a Paragon will be forced to make a sacrifice. Not everyone can be saved and not everything will be sunshine and happiness....