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[luzburg]

i read the different endings. i liked it and i know the one i wanna go for

[incinerator950]

Luc0s wrote...

DDG3595 wrote...

I just want to see every Reaper blown to bits.  If that happens I'll be very happy.

Even if blowing all reapers to bits, means blowing all mass relays to bits too?


I think I know why some people will be angry with ME3's ending, even though there are multiple endings. Every single ending requires at least some form of sacrifice. Not a single ending goes without some kind of sacrifice. I think some folks here are not willing to sacrifice anything at all. After all, the Paragons didn't have to sacrifice anything so far (okay, the Arrival DLC is the only exception). ME3's ending will be the first time that a Paragon will be forced to make a sacrifice. Not everyone can be saved and not everything will be sunshine and happiness....

In before the rabid waves of the storm of ****.

[Good Chaos7]

As long as I get a happy ending (me & Garrus hand in hand with sniper's in our others)

Although I didn't read the leaked script, I still remember one of the Devs saying their will be different ending's depending on your actions.

[bucyrus5000]

thank god I'm forgetful and lazy otherwise I would know about the leaks.

Truthfully I really want to see a game with a majority of endings that are commonly achievable (some satisfying, some dark), but also having a couple of hidden, dramatic, epic ending that are not easy to achieve (because certain people have to be met in a certain order, or certain missions have to be failed). It's too late for any game as far down the pipe as ME3, but some day someone will go the extra mile.

[GnusmasTHX]

Luc0s wrote...

DDG3595 wrote...

I just want to see every Reaper blown to bits.  If that happens I'll be very happy.

Even if blowing all reapers to bits, means blowing all mass relays to bits too?


I think I know why some people will be angry with ME3's ending, even though there are multiple endings. Every single ending requires at least some form of sacrifice. Not a single ending goes without some kind of sacrifice. I think some folks here are not willing to sacrifice anything at all. After all, the Paragons didn't have to sacrifice anything so far (okay, the Arrival DLC is the only exception). ME3's ending will be the first time that a Paragon will be forced to make a sacrifice. Not everyone can be saved and not everything will be sunshine and happiness....

I doubt destroying all the Relays, with an Arrival esque explosion is an ending. At least not a "Victory" anyway.

[Dormiglione]

Can only talk for myself. As long that i get an answer, even if i dont like it, im satisfied. Im not saying that im happy with every answer i get, maybe i get also angry, but i remain satisfied because i get an ending and answers to many questions.

[DarkSeraphym]

Before people start getting upset over what is in the leaks, I read them months ago and I can safely say that they were pretty vague. In fact, the endings that I read seemed like they were literally describing what was being displayed in the last few scenes of the game. Beyond that, I don't recall seeing anything about an Epilogue that told us what happened to the rest of the galaxy or what the full effects of our decisions, beyond what we were told would happen before we made them? I think I am going to reserve judgment until I see that stuff once I beat the game.

[Skoomax]

Shepard insulted Liara, this can't be ME3.

Modifié par Skoomax, 03 février 2012 - 05:25 .

[AnsinJung]

Given how Revan apparently turned out (I only read a synopsis plus several negative user reviews, and I was disgusted), I'm not surprised.

[Kasen]

DarkSeraphym wrote...

Before people start getting upset over what is in the leaks, I read them months ago and I can safely say that they were pretty vague. In fact, the endings that I read seemed like they were literally describing what was being displayed in the last few scenes of the game. Beyond that, I don't recall seeing anything about an Epilogue that told us what happened to the rest of the galaxy or what the full effects of our decisions, beyond what we were told would happen before we made them? I think I am going to reserve judgment until I see that stuff once I beat the game.

I haven't read the leaks for myself, just what was said here, so I hope that is indeed the case. I hope a month from now I can let out a sigh of relief and feel silly for jumping to conclusions based on what I read in this thread. Truthfully I wish I hadn't come across the spoilers at all...

Edited to add: The recent statement with regards to the novel, Deception, gives me some hope too, despite being unrelated.

Modifié par Kasen13, 03 février 2012 - 06:32 .

[Zulmoka531]

After reading the script leaks ( and I won't spoil anything, or do my best not to, so avert your eyes if you'd like) the ultimate issue I have is that what you do throughout the game doesn't affect these "choices" (which are all sorts of bittersweet anyways, they have little to do with renegade or paragon for that matter). It only changes the aftermath. You could completely bomb the game and these choices would still be the same, with just varying outcomes after.

It's asking a lot I know, but that's just my take on it. Also, they were without context, maybe we are all missing something or something was changed due to feedback. So while I am pessimistic, I'll with hold my final judgement until after I've completed the game.

[Candidate 88766]

Zulmoka531 wrote...

After reading the script leaks ( and I won't spoil anything, or do my best not to, so avert your eyes if you'd like) the ultimate issue I have is that what you do throughout the game doesn't affect these "choices" (which are all sorts of bittersweet anyways, they have little to do with renegade or paragon for that matter). It only changes the aftermath. You could completely bomb the game and these choices would still be the same, with just varying outcomes after.

It's asking a lot I know, but that's just my take on it. Also, they were without context, maybe we are all missing something or something was changed due to feedback. So while I am pessimistic, I'll with hold my final judgement until after I've completed the game.

I've heard rumours that your choice at the end of ME2 can affect the (trying ot be as vague as possible here) 'pro-human ending'. I don't know how true this is, but from the snippets I've heard that ending may only be available to people who made a certain choice at the end of ME2. I could be entirely wrong here, so take it with a pile of salt, but it would make some sense.

[RocketManSR2]

Yuqi wrote...

The  leaked endings are bad.. even the best ending is bad IMO. Oh well It cant be as bad as the ****storm the DA2 forums were..

Wanna bet? 

[Legiongethinator]

" ah yes ,reapers how we have dismissed that claim

[N172]

Some of the opinions we have on BSN:
"Same sex romances"
"More romance talk"
"Show everything (sex)"
"Show nothing, just talk"
"No romances at all"

"Renegades should yield best results"
"The Paragon-way should backfire sometimes"
"Paragon should yield best results"
"Renegade should not mean being an a*****e"
"Renegade means being an a*****e by definition"

So its not really news that some might get angry.

Modifié par N172, 03 février 2012 - 10:22 .

[DigitalMaster37]

AnsinJung wrote...

Given how Revan apparently turned out (I only read a synopsis plus several negative user reviews, and I was disgusted), I'm not surprised.

Which is proof that you should play it. It is not as bad in context as people randomly explain it. I'll reserve judgement until I play ME3. SWTOR and Revan's part in it was good IMO, both republic and Empire side.

[Black_Vanguard]

Am I the only one here that's kind of relieved the "perfect ending" isn't exactly perfect so to speak. The reapers have arrived and are kicking a** and taking names. It makes sense that lots of lives or even species would be wiped out.

To get rid of a threat like that something drastic would have to be done to defeat them. It at least makes sense to me. Am I the only one that sees it that way?

[Tazzmission]

Black_Vanguard wrote...

Am I the only one here that's kind of relieved the "perfect ending" isn't exactly perfect so to speak. The reapers have arrived and are kicking a** and taking names. It makes sense that lots of lives or even species would be wiped out.

To get rid of a threat like that something drastic would have to be done to defeat them. It at least makes sense to me. Am I the only one that sees it that way?

no and i agree with you.  if i had to some up me3 from the leaks i have read id have to say picture ww2 in space.


people fail to realise that wars never usually end well despite victory being achieved and victory isnt just always about winning hell sometimes it takes sacrifising a population to achieve victory

Modifié par Tazzmission, 04 février 2012 - 05:49 .

[Skoomax]

*Looks at Assassin's Creed*


Hmmhm ...

[shepard1038]

Tazzmission wrote...

Black_Vanguard wrote...

Am I the only one here that's kind of relieved the "perfect ending" isn't exactly perfect so to speak. The reapers have arrived and are kicking a** and taking names. It makes sense that lots of lives or even species would be wiped out.

To get rid of a threat like that something drastic would have to be done to defeat them. It at least makes sense to me. Am I the only one that sees it that way?

no and i agree with you.  if i had to some up me3 from the leaks i have read id have to say picture ww2 in space.


people fail to realise that wars never usually end well despite victory being achieved and victory isnt just always about winning hell sometimes it takes sacrifising a population to achieve victory

Is about survival

Modifié par shepard1038, 06 février 2012 - 04:28 .

[AnsinJung]

Deltaboy37-1 wrote...

AnsinJung wrote...

Given how Revan apparently turned out (I only read a synopsis plus several negative user reviews, and I was disgusted), I'm not surprised.

Which is proof that you should play it. It is not as bad in context as people randomly explain it. I'll reserve judgement until I play ME3. SWTOR and Revan's part in it was good IMO, both republic and Empire side.

I was referring to the book.  There's no way I'm getting TOR with my current money.

[Femlob]

I haven't read the leaked script, but considering the timing I wouldn't be surprised to find that it is mostly accurate. Even if BioWare wanted to change things as a result of popular backlash, there is only so much you can do when you're less than a year removed from shipping (at least, I think they were less than a year removed from shipping when the script was leaked). That said, there is also only so much you can derive from flat text as opposed to the final product. Some of my favorite movies didn't look like much on paper, either.

Of course, it ultimately depends on what you want out of Mass Effect. I've taken a liking to the series because of the characters and the atmosphere, which BioWare is known to be quite good at creating (from the Baldur's Gate series to Jade Empire to Knights of the Old Republic, it's the one element all BioWare games have in common). If Mass Effect 3 provides tasteful closure for the characters its predecessors have introduced, whether they live or die, the game will be a success for me; what happens to the universe in the meantime is of secondary importance. I can always replay the series from scratch to change things up a little.

If you're in it for the plot and lore, I can see how a leaked script that employs cliches and is otherwise miles removed from what you imagined is cause for desillusion. All I have for people like that is another cliche: it is what it is, take it or leave it. And perhaps a bit of hard-earned wisdom: never get too deeply invested into anything you can't control.

On the subject of endings: unless there's an ending that allows me to eliminate all sentient life and reset the universe by imploding all known galaxies I don't think BioWare can surprise me with anything they can throw at me. Planets will be destroyed, civilizations will be burned back to bedrock and people Shepard loves or cares about will be shipped back to whatever home they have remaining in a box. All is fair in love and war, so you can't expect anyone to come out of a conflict like this entirely unscathed.

The Reapers are big, perhaps even too big to take down in one go (that the rumored superweapon might be only partially viable alludes to that). I can imagine the "happy ending" to be a Sauron-esque situation where the Reapers end up being greatly weakened for a time, perhaps weakened enough that they can never again become quite the menace they are now, but to destroy them entirely seems like wishful thinking. Something that's been harvesting sentient organic life for time untold isn't just going to roll over and die after a single hit from one secret weapon or another.

As for a possible Mass Effect 4: I wouldn't be surprised to see a Mass Effect: Origins (or Zero) emerge sooner or later. There were three backgrounds to choose from when creating Shepard, each with their own unique conflict, so it's possible that BioWare might want to expand on that.

[floppypig]

Total Biscuit wrote...

Skoomax wrote...

Could someone give me '' small '' details about the ending, don't want to read it all but i'm getting very curious and excited here.

Well, if the leaks are true, as it now sounds;

MacGuffin, 3 magic buttons to choose everyones fate, Reapers motivations are based on the delusions of their creators, and don't hold water, all endings kick you in the balls, and you can't actually win in any of them.

Do not go into ME3 expecting to do anything more than survive. The 3 leaked endings are in no way satisfying, and the 'perfect' ending is complete bollocks, both in terms of not making a lick of sense, and in the fact that it basically lets the Reapers win.

Yeah, I'm deffinately in the hate catagory. I'd actually say those leaked endings are as bad as MGS 2, vanilla Fallout 3, and Star Wars the Force Unleashed for not making sense and leaving you pissed off. They're aimed squarely at the 5% of the population that hate happy endings.

OMG I think I'm gonna love them. Cept the "Reaper win" one... the ****? It better not be some sort of peace or something. **** that. 

[Arppis]

As long as paragon ending is truely paragon ending, I'm happy. (And they make a statue of my Shepard)

[Tazzmission]

firestrike 332 wrote...

so all the ending everyone die to the Reapers WTF =.= so there no ending where we win ?

um no not everyone dies.

basicly the endings will show some form of destruction because wars never end perfectly despite how much people think it does.

i like the idea of how the endings are written because regardless wich one you get theres no real winner

thats the casualties of war