I just find the Alliance such a limiting organisation. Sure for the VS, it makes sense but Shepard is beyond that, he is about getting the job done with whatever resources he might have at hand, not going through Alliance orders to get his business done. It's kind of annoying that he even NEEDS to go back to Earth in this regard.
Shepard should really be beyond the Alliance, shouldn't he?
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 12:20
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Alliance is not an organization as you try to say. Alliance is a spacefarin nation representing humans. And shepard is an officer in alliance millitary so to your Op answer is simple no.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 12:20
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Stardusk78 wrote...
I just find the Alliance such a limiting organisation. Sure for the VS, it makes sense but Shepard is beyond that, he is about getting the job done with whatever resources he might have at hand, not going through Alliance orders to get his business done. It's kind of annoying that he even NEEDS to go back to Earth in this regard.
Heh, another fan who thinks his hero Shepard is "all that."
Shepard is not "beyond" anyone or taking orders. In ME1, he took orders from the council to get the job done ("But he disobeyed them in the end to get to Ilos" - yes, but he wouldn't have had a lead to go off of if not for them in the first place, so let's not give him too much credit here). And in ME2, TIM herded him like the sheep that he is.
He's probably not going to end up taking any orders from anyone come ME3 with the Alliance, but let's give the Shepard-deification a rest.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 12:23
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The Alliance certainly doesn't think so.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 12:38
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Indeed.husky husk wrote...
Why are there
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 12:43
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Amen.Hah Yes Reapers wrote...
Heh, another fan who thinks his hero Shepard is "all that."
Shepard is not "beyond" anyone or taking orders. In ME1, he took orders from the council to get the job done ("But he disobeyed them in the end to get to Ilos" - yes, but he wouldn't have had a lead to go off of if not for them in the first place, so let's not give him too much credit here). And in ME2, TIM herded him like the sheep that he is.
He's probably not going to end up taking any orders from anyone come ME3 with the Alliance, but let's give the Shepard-deification a rest.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 12:47
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yes, he should use what ever resources comes his way and not just the alliance and besides every race needs shepard. Shepard warned everyone but they didn't listen, if they got their blinders off and listened then just maybe everyone would be in a better position than what they are in now. Also shepard doesn't take orders from T.I.M
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 12:55
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SolidBeast wrote...
Indeed.husky husk wrote...
Why are there
husky husk wrote...
two of these?
#12
Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:04
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I am annoyed Shep has been forced to ally with whatever BW decides in ME2 and ME3....it is immersion breaking...but I really don't think the Allaince affiliation will have as greater an impact on Shep as the Cerberus alliance did.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:04
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Totally because not wanting Shep to work with the alliance = Shep is a god. >_>
As far as my Shep's concerned the alliance can screw themselves. He'll use them up until they have no more resources to give before tossing them aside.
He might as well do it first before they do it to him.
As far as my Shep's concerned the alliance can screw themselves. He'll use them up until they have no more resources to give before tossing them aside.
He might as well do it first before they do it to him.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:13
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Ryzaki wrote...
Totally because not wanting Shep to work with the alliance = Shep is a god. >_>
As far as my Shep's concerned the alliance can screw themselves. He'll use them up until they have no more resources to give before tossing them aside.
He might as well do it first before they do it to him.
So you want to screw humanity? Like it or not, the alliance is a nation, not an organization, or a military branch or something. Sure there are a few independant colonies, but screwing the alliance, taking its resources, is killing humanity.
Like it or not, shep's goal is to save humanity, if not necesarilly earth.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:15
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Depends on the Shepard but yes SHE should.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:17
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Nashiktal wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
Totally because not wanting Shep to work with the alliance = Shep is a god. >_>
As far as my Shep's concerned the alliance can screw themselves. He'll use them up until they have no more resources to give before tossing them aside.
He might as well do it first before they do it to him.
So you want to screw humanity? Like it or not, the alliance is a nation, not an organization, or a military branch or something. Sure there are a few independant colonies, but screwing the alliance, taking its resources, is killing humanity.
Like it or not, shep's goal is to save humanity, if not necesarilly earth.
my shepard doesn't give a damn about the alliance as far as he's concerned they all can burn, until that happens the only thing the alliance is good for is to be used and once shepard is done with them then he'll move on to the next organization or nation to give him resources.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:21
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Man, my Shep was beyond the Alliance when it was still underground.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:25
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I'm glad we're working with the Alliance again.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:27
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seirhart wrote...
Nashiktal wrote...
Ryzaki wrote...
Totally because not wanting Shep to work with the alliance = Shep is a god. >_>
As far as my Shep's concerned the alliance can screw themselves. He'll use them up until they have no more resources to give before tossing them aside.
He might as well do it first before they do it to him.
So you want to screw humanity? Like it or not, the alliance is a nation, not an organization, or a military branch or something. Sure there are a few independant colonies, but screwing the alliance, taking its resources, is killing humanity.
Like it or not, shep's goal is to save humanity, if not necesarilly earth.
my shepard doesn't give a damn about the alliance as far as he's concerned they all can burn, until that happens the only thing the alliance is good for is to be used and once shepard is done with them then he'll move on to the next organization or nation to give him resources.
So you don't give a damn about humanity? The alliance is the human government, without it any remnants of humanity is likely to be absorbed or conquered by one of the other species.
Especially in the terminous systems. Even if the batarians are gone as a power, there will still be plenty of pirates and independant species.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:29
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+2AdmiralCheez wrote...
Amen.Hah Yes Reapers wrote...
Heh, another fan who thinks his hero Shepard is "all that."
Shepard is not "beyond" anyone or taking orders. In ME1, he took orders from the council to get the job done ("But he disobeyed them in the end to get to Ilos" - yes, but he wouldn't have had a lead to go off of if not for them in the first place, so let's not give him too much credit here). And in ME2, TIM herded him like the sheep that he is.
He's probably not going to end up taking any orders from anyone come ME3 with the Alliance, but let's give the Shepard-deification a rest.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:33
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still don't care about the alliance, my shepard and my other shepards are pro alien anti human and just don't care if the alliance survives or falls. If the alliance survives, well good for them but if they fall oh well didn't care for the alliance.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:36
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BlueMagitek wrote...
Man, my Shep was beyond the Alliance when it was still underground.
Ha ha!
Actually, I sympathize with the OP. My Shepard got pretty comfortable doing things "her way" during ME2, so I can totally see her disobeying stupid orders at this point. She's just not a very good Turian any more. Good orders, she'll follow.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:37
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my shepard and my other shepards are pro alien anti human
Are your Shepards not human? I wasn't aware you can make Shepard an entirely different species.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:39
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seirhart wrote...
still don't care about the alliance, my shepard and my other shepards are pro alien anti human and just don't care if the alliance survives or falls. If the alliance survives, well good for them but if they fall oh well didn't care for the alliance.
I just don't understand why people say they are anti human. Sure you might not agree with current things going on with humanity, but why would you abandon your own species and hate them. Instead work torwards helping your species instead of cowarding and abandoning them.
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Posté 03 février 2012 - 01:41
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mango smoothie wrote...
seirhart wrote...
still don't care about the alliance, my shepard and my other shepards are pro alien anti human and just don't care if the alliance survives or falls. If the alliance survives, well good for them but if they fall oh well didn't care for the alliance.
I just don't understand why people say they are anti human. Sure you might not agree with current things going on with humanity, but why would you abandon your own species and hate them. Instead work torwards helping your species instead of cowarding and abandoning them.
Especially when the aliens are more vicious and anti... well anything not them than humanity.
